Davox

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Left me wanting more, but also felt really short so its difficult to say what kind of 'game' this will be.

The save file has hardly any character variables in it, so it doesn't seem like there's anything complex going on behind the scenes.

Feel oddly conflicted about the writing outside of the sex scenes its okay but the dialogue in the sex scenes is tripe.

Art style isn't my thing it looks too out of focus and desaturated for my tastes.

No idea how hard the coding is for this html engine, but as there are hardly any variables and the 'artwork' is a simple filter over real porn images + maybe some layers it doesn't feel like this should take very long to update.

Couple of bugs/ideas:
I got to empty locations a couple of times and had to use the back button to get out.
It would be good if the back button would just go back one screen of a dialogue at at time rather than just go back to the last decision point.
In the shop when buying clothes there's no way to have a new item in your bag (right hand column) and remove it from the avatar, makes it difficult to compare multiple items.
What's available in each shop seems to be a bit of mish mash with some items available in multiple shops. This makes it a bit confusing.
Also in clothing I'd like to see the lewd rating of each item in the selection screen so I can plan the outfit easier. Perhaps an option to order by the highest lewd rating.
I cheated my character base lewd rating, so this may be a result of that but I managed to walk around naked and after the doctor scenes walked out back into school without putting my clothes back on. Feel there needs to be a check in place to stop this happening as nobody in school reacted any differently to a naked girl walking around.
 

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You can't be serious. This is version 0.3 and the game barely has any content in it to fill all those locations, let alone the school itself and you are considering wasting development time to implement some utterly unnecessary features requested by people with pubic hair fetishes. Yeah, pubic hair management on a character who doesn't even have feet to walk on... that's what we all need for sure. I'm sure this will be a great game when it's finally completed... in the next century.
Oh, c'mon. I need to make one picture of pubes on a transparent background, write a line of code that adds one html tag to the DOM and write a wrapper for one function that displays the avatar. It's not rocket science, shouldn't take more than 20 minutes.
 

Zabulon8

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Enjoyed the first version, came back for more, and I'm still not dissapointed.

I tend to like FP games with corruption and this one definetely hits the mark. The only critic I could have is that the protag tends to be really slutty really soon. It's a good thing cuz we're already touching on some good stuff, but I hope the progression will be well managed. So far I think it will.

The scenario reminds me a lot of Fake AI, which I enjoyed a lot too. The fact that you have pictures makes it great, but there are some good ideas in that game that you could follow.

Anyway, really enjoyed it. It's also cool that the updates are close. You started it 2 weeks ago and there'sa already a follow-up. Furthermore, 17 pages of reactions in two weeks shows that people are invested.

SO godspeed dev, good work !

PS : Still waiting for older gentleman content. :sneaky:
 
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Left me wanting more, but also felt really short so its difficult to say what kind of 'game' this will be.

The save file has hardly any character variables in it, so it doesn't seem like there's anything complex going on behind the scenes.

Feel oddly conflicted about the writing outside of the sex scenes its okay but the dialogue in the sex scenes is tripe.

Art style isn't my thing it looks too out of focus and desaturated for my tastes.

No idea how hard the coding is for this html engine, but as there are hardly any variables and the 'artwork' is a simple filter over real porn images + maybe some layers it doesn't feel like this should take very long to update.

Couple of bugs/ideas:
I got to empty locations a couple of times and had to use the back button to get out.
It would be good if the back button would just go back one screen of a dialogue at at time rather than just go back to the last decision point.
In the shop when buying clothes there's no way to have a new item in your bag (right hand column) and remove it from the avatar, makes it difficult to compare multiple items.
What's available in each shop seems to be a bit of mish mash with some items available in multiple shops. This makes it a bit confusing.
Also in clothing I'd like to see the lewd rating of each item in the selection screen so I can plan the outfit easier. Perhaps an option to order by the highest lewd rating.
I cheated my character base lewd rating, so this may be a result of that but I managed to walk around naked and after the doctor scenes walked out back into school without putting my clothes back on. Feel there needs to be a check in place to stop this happening as nobody in school reacted any differently to a naked girl walking around.
Fair point about writing and art. I did my best, it wasn't much.

How hard is it to make updates? Easy? Pealing potatoes is also easy, but you can't do it 24/7. If you're saying I should work faster - I think ~10k words and ~30 images, while working on the engine and toolset at the same time ain't bad for 2 weeks unpaid work ;)

If you could tell me what the empty locations are, it would be easier to fix.

The way I implemented the plot graph - it's kind of hard to traverse it in the reverse direction. Each time you move forward there might be some code executed and the code might have side-effects so un-executing it isn't an option. I'd have to drop a complete save after each click and that would fill up the limited space the browser provides really fast, or calculate a diff for each step and drop a slightly smaller save - introducing lag and still filling up all storage after 1-2k clicks.

Not sure I understand what you are saying about the shops, but I can at least clean up the assortment and remove duplicates.

If you cheated your stats from 3-8 to 30+, so an order of magnitude and things broke - yeah, that one's on you :p
 

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I can't reproduce the error. Can I send the index.html with some extra debug for you to run and you'd paste all the de ug messages from the browser dev console?
Running into the same issue; tested on both Firefox and Brave (Chromium) on Linux x64.

Warning: 'src' is a property of element.style
brython.js:14994 module __main__ line 2082
brython.js:7404 ERROR: Error processing node "pre_new_game": list index out of range
 

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Running into the same issue; tested on both Firefox and Brave (Chromium) on Linux x64.

Warning: 'src' is a property of element.style
brython.js:14994 module __main__ line 2082
brython.js:7404 ERROR: Error processing node "pre_new_game": list index out of range
Can you run it again, using the index.html I've attached to this post and post again what poped up in the console?

EDIT: I may have a lead - is the game still working despite the error spam? Like can you progress the story and click on options? If so, can you check the text-to-speech setup? Are there any voices to select? It might be that the OS is not providing any voices and so there is no default voice and the game will still try to use tts even if the volume is set to zero.
 
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coxaxey678

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Can you run it again, using the index.html I've attached to this post and post again what poped up in the console?

EDIT: I may have a lead - is the game still working despite the error spam? Like can you progress the story and click on options? If so, can you check the text-to-speech setup? Are there any voices to select? It might be that the OS is not providing any voices and so there is no default voice and the game will still try to use tts even if the volume is set to zero.
Have the same error on firefox and chromium on linux. There are no voices to select in tts setting.
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I also have a few other issues. When I get to dressing scene (node `d0_dress4school`) the clothes selection doesn't show up. Only background and character is visible. Commenting out _show_txt(False) in shop() "fixed" it. Same with the map (node `d0_map2school`) the background shows up but the locations don't. Used the same workaround in show_map() to bypass it.

Also saving/loading doesn't work for me. When I load a save from file or choosing continue in main menu only the background shows up and it's impossible to advance. There is no text or character. Same issue with rollback.
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Sometimes continue doesn't show up in main menu after starting new game until I load from file (but I can't do anything after loading from file anyways).
 
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Davox

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How hard is it to make updates? Easy? Pealing potatoes is also easy, but you can't do it 24/7. If you're saying I should work faster - I think ~10k words and ~30 images, while working on the engine and toolset at the same time ain't bad for 2 weeks unpaid work ;)
What i really meant was that IMO there's too little content for a first release, let alone a third release. Release less often but with more content otherwise people will start skipping release and you 'll get way less feedback.


If you could tell me what the empty locations are, it would be easier to fix
Not sure, but park at night was one of them. But it might have been because for the point below

If you cheated your stats from 3-8 to 30+, so an order of magnitude and things broke - yeah, that one's on you :p
I know that but it was meant as a bit of guidance to help you in the long run. If you create a clothing check module and call it after any point where the player can change clothes or changes situation. i.e. leaves the house, leaves a shop, leaves the doctors office. It can force players to go back and change clothes if the environment they are about to enter doesn't allow the lewdness there outfit has. Or it could allow the lewdness but not allow 'certain' body parts to be visible
 
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Just played this game, looks really good so far. The characters are pretty, outfits look promising and seems like you're aiming for sandbox-like gameplay which I couldn't approve more. I also have a few small complaints.

I have nothing against the blackmail itself but Ben is a very annoying character personality-wise, and Jeff (I think that's his name, the nerd) is not far behind. It would be great if we could, through our choices, have another character occupy that position. Maybe the headmaster?

Some of the choices offered are apparently pointless (playing with herself in the shower or not, approaching Ben calmly or aggressively) but I hope you're keeping track of them under the hood so they'll have an effect in the future(if she edges herself she's more easily corrupted, being calm makes her more meek, this kind of thing). A QOL change you could add: some choices affect all instances of the same choice until something happens(if she walks around naked she won't think twice about it until she catches someone peeping, this kind of thing).
 

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Enjoyed the update, looking forward to next release.

The main thing I'm finding is that the increases in lewdness points seem somewhat unintuitive. To maximise lewdness by the end of the nurse visit (which is the last point it's possible to see) requires being forced, whereas voluntarily acting lewd results in minimal or zero lewdness gain (e.g. stripping for Ben with missing underwear doesn't increase lewdness, whereas having the makeover appears to be the way to maximise).

We don't get a final tally for the end of the school day, so some of the paths may well be able to add (e.g. the treasure hunt) but it just feels like some actions are being awarded disproportionately.

Some bugs I found:

1. If you make a save at the start of the second day, after dressing in clothes that are outwardly the same, it will trigger the "Oops, I forgot ..." etc choices. If you then load that save you will instead get the "I like it" etc choices. Looks like something may not be being saved correctly.

2. You can't reload the same savefile multiple times in a row. Instead you need to load a different savefile, then go back to the savefile you want. This could be browser-related (I use Edge for my lewd gaming, haven't tested with others).

3. Stripping with either bra or panties missing should jump to being required to wear neither the next day - doesn't make sense otherwise.

4. When stripping for the nurse, leaving both bra and panties on resulted in the message that the MC didn't feel comfortable with just a bra, whereas stripping to bra and no panties was OK. Looks like a test is reversed.
 
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If I could make wish -- for most games like this -- it'd be that devs put really clear explanation up front of what "tracks" exist in the dev's world, as h-game behavior is not intuitive. Knowing the tracks would give players a hint about what behavior will lead to what content, letting them play how they want. For example, say there are four "tracks":
  • purity (if MC stands up to bullies strongly --> resist getting corrupted or fully taken advantage of; MC enjoys nothing and defeats or even one-ups bullies)
  • non-consensual (if MC stands up to bullies weakly --> blackmailed or forced to participate anyway; MC doesn't enjoy it except maybe secretly or over time)
  • submissive (if MC doesn't want it but gives up quickly --> fully participates but doesn't enjoy it openly, probably enjoys it secretly)
  • eager (if MC has no shame or is excited to participate --> openly enjoys; maybe even becomes accomplice somehow)
If players don't know all the "tracks" -- for example, that there's a non-con route -- then they generally just all go full-eager/slut to see the content, which defeats the point of having choice, and/or they just mindlessly try every single choice combination to see anything they missed, which makes the game just a non-linear, incoherent VN rather than a game.

This long rant written just because the story is interesting. Reminds me a bit of Casey's Fall, minus CS's anatomy fixation. I think that as an alternative to her being a secret exhibitionist, you could play up a little that being afraid, alone, and desperate makes her do risky things like flirting or exposing a little in hopes of getting an advantage, only for her to be taken advantage of by someone who calls her bluff.

EDIT: Also, while I don't fully agree with some of the comments earlier that the content is too slow (as a professional writer, I say the secret to actually finishing passion projects is to focus on the stuff that makes YOU happy and don't go beyond your own comfort pace), here's one tactic I do wish game devs used more: rather than do a chapter at a time (which is hard to read, because you forget the story between updates, or you wait a month and then get 10 minutes of play), write and release the whole story VERY barebones, then layer on the choices/art/context with each release. It's tempting as a writer to assume that everyone is as invested in story as you are, so you don't want to spoil it, but the fact is, esp for h-games and RPGs, people are more there to see how the choices change the story, so adding choices to an existing story is just as good (if not better) than trying to follow a story spread out over months.
 
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magao

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Personally I prefer well-fleshed-out updates to barebones that get filled in gradually. I have limited time to play so having to play from the start each update would be annoying. Yes - it means I may miss out on some content added to earlier parts of the game, but I always have the option of restarting.

I think it would be a good idea to add the current status (clothes, lewdness) to the "To be continued" page so people have an idea of what effects actions have had since the last clothes change.

I'd also suggest keeping multiple checkpoints for the current day e.g. start of day, lunch, end of school day. So if you decide after a few decision points you decide you're not happy with the path taken you can change it without having to do a full restart.
 

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  • purity (if MC stands up to bullies strongly --> resist getting corrupted or fully taken advantage of; MC enjoys nothing and defeats or even one-ups bullies)
I think it's pretty clear from the prologue that this isn't going to be an option. I only really see three paths for this game - Voluntary, Obedient and Forced. Although could always take a page out of Secretary's book and add Greed (i.e. characters provide monetary incentive - we already have two examples of this in the game).
 

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0.3 was well done, cant wait for future updates :) Definately a game ill be checking from time to time to see if new updates came out, once again, great job my dude
 

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I like the art style, although I think it could be slightly less blurry.
The dress-up is fun.
Not much in the way of content, but what is there, is executed well.

Looking forward to more. I assume you will hit the wall all new devs hit: writing.
Once your engine does what you want it to do, it's gonna take you more time than you'd like to actually implement more content.
If my assumption is right, you might want to look for someone to help with that.
Not that you need it, but it'd take a load off your shoulders, I think.
Godspeed!
 

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I have been playing the new version for the second day and I must admit that I was somewhat mistaken, considering the game simple. I found options where the lewd level is 9, where a bully awaits the girl at the end of the day, where the clothes are shortened with scissors (by the way, after the medical examination, the clothes are restored, but after changing clothes you can go to the dining room without a skirt!), where the girl takes a photo under her skirt in class and sends from the phone. This is not always obvious and intriguing. However, I still haven't found the library 'treasure' hunt...
 

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I have been playing the new version for the second day and I must admit that I was somewhat mistaken, considering the game simple. I found options where the lewd level is 9, where a bully awaits the girl at the end of the day, where the clothes are shortened with scissors (by the way, after the medical examination, the clothes are restored, but after changing clothes you can go to the dining room without a skirt!), where the girl takes a photo under her skirt in class and sends from the phone. This is not always obvious and intriguing. However, I still haven't found the library 'treasure' hunt...
HELLS BELLS We need some help a guide would be good
 

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If anyone is feeling brave - go to the dev folder, open the file plot_edit.html in your browser, click on the wrench in the left top corner (kind of looks like a bone), from 'start form' the dropdown select 'school_day_1' and you can see how the plot looks like. There be dragons - it's not a sight for the faint of heart.
 
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