Fatneck

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but what if aliens did abduct you and this post is a cover-up so noone would raise suspicions! :unsure:
Then no one would know .. . . I mean have you taken a good look at that Moose? I think it is anatomically incorrect. Makes one wonder why . . . .
 

Buffmutti

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Aug 27, 2021
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Ok, this is funny (sort of): was exploring the city on a Sunday and suddenly the game decided that its time to go to school...on a Sunday xD ( )
 

shark_inna_hat

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Ok, this is funny (sort of): was exploring the city on a Sunday and suddenly the game decided that its time to go to school...on a Sunday xD ( )
That's a new one. Can you share a save file?
 

ss_kk

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Oct 16, 2020
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I don't understand. Day 14 the game shuts down forcefully, "to be continued". Why can't I keep playing / what do I need to do to avoid this forced ending? Is it time limited to 14 days?
 
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Buffmutti

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I was able to reproduce that bug in a new game. If you try to explore the city during a weekend like one or two weeks after the start of the game the bug will happen (it will not happen if there is nothing left to explore).
 

EdgeOfShadow

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I don't understand. Day 14 the game shuts down forcefully, "to be continued". Why can't I keep playing / what do I need to do to avoid this forced ending? Is it time limited to 14 days?
Rollback, save to file, change "time" variable (it's counted in hours). The game does have time limit, yes.
 

mrnow19

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Jun 7, 2021
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I don't understand. Day 14 the game shuts down forcefully, "to be continued". Why can't I keep playing / what do I need to do to avoid this forced ending? Is it time limited to 14 days?
Rollback, save to file, change "time" variable (it's counted in hours). The game does have time limit, yes.
I believe there's also a "groundhog day" mod you can enable to loop week 2 (see the FAQ in the OP). It causes some bugs, but it makes it to where you don't need to edit save files.
 

grumpyoldcat

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If I may be so bold as to make a request. If it is too much work to implement, then skip it. Is there any way to make anal a choice when fucking the dog? No need to make a whole new pic for it, a line of text is totally fine.

Again, I totally get it if I am overstepping as a freeloading scamp.

I love the game, regardless.
 

A.sapien

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I thought it was once a month...
At one point he said something along the lines of he'd like to release once a month but that it was probably unrealistic. He has done a pretty good job of being close to a 6 week schedule though. So I am guessing we will get a status update soon, and that might have an eta in it. typically Shark's been a pretty good communicator so we'll see.
 
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shark_inna_hat

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Sorry Guys, IRL being a bitch and I couldn't afford to work on the game.

The little free time I had I've spent on pre-production on the next game (that could maybe, actually get monetized on account of not having any stolen real-porn images) and I got sucked into a wormhole of non-linear color spaces and multiple render targets. At least I got a proof-of-concept done and I know what I'll be doing when I get this game done.
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I'm not abandoning this game, but I'm intending to finish it by the end of the year. The main plot should get resolved and everyone will be free to play in sandbox mode. I'll keep on adding random events and job-subplots after that for as long as I still have ideas and/or for as long as people are willing to chip in a few $ each month.

Now - back to work.
 

LTD

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Sorry Guys, IRL being a bitch and I couldn't afford to work on the game.

The little free time I had I've spent on pre-production on the next game (that could maybe, actually get monetized on account of not having any stolen real-porn images) ..
This is something that comes up a lot, but I have to question whether or not that's a worry. I mean, it could be, but that is going to depend on the laws where you live, and possible the laws where the copyright holder is based.

If, for example, you are in the USA, taking porn (or any) images, RL or drawn, and using them in a game is clearly transformative, especially if you're not making a commercial product (which is different from having a Patreon, or better yet, a Subscribestar account (Patreon is a crap company), which you could totally do without issue right now; crowdfunding is how a lot of fan-films get made, for example). You are not just re-uploading the images to your own website and charging people to see them. That it's transformative means the game would be protected under "fair use" in the USA.

Of course, "fair use" is a legal defense, not a right, so you've got to go to court, which makes things public, which is what rights holders count on when they send those take down notices, even when they know they'd lose if it actually made it to court.

Your mileage may vary depending on where in the world you actually are (Japan famously has no concept of fair use, which is why companies like Nintendo can be so incredibly litigious), and I'm not a lawyer. I've only watched a few cases relating to this area of law closely in recent years (Akilah Hughes v. Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad is a notable one some people here may have heard of) and so I'm somewhat familiar. I might be a bit off, but I'm a good 90% on this.
 
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Tromilka

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taking porn (or any) images, RL or drawn, and using them in a game is clearly transformative
Just... no. Merely putting an image into a game more or less as-is does not mean that you have "transformed" it and that the fair use exception applies. If that's all it took, it would pretty much make copyright for images void. (Also, by the same logic you would be free to rip any assets, music, etc. without restriction as long as you put them together into a new game. Obviously that's not how things work.) The link posted by 169134 includes a short discussion of how courts understand "transformative": it's a much higher bar.

In actuality, legal practice around copyrighted images is crazy strict. For example, movies and TV shows usually can't show posters on the wall in the background of a shot without clearing them first, and will sometimes decorate sets with blank green posters to CGI in later, depending on what they're able to license. You even see this in some porn, where they blur out art on the wall. (I suspect that if someone got sued over something like this but fought the case to the Supreme Court they might win, but it's not a sure thing.)

All the porn games using "found photos" and videos are operating way outside of copyright law.

Now, in this particular case, the graphics may actually be sufficiently modified from the original sources, though I wouldn't bet on it. They're clearly still derivative works, and the fact that they use the likeness of a real person, taken from commercial photos/videos without license or permission, wouldn't help.
 

LTD

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Just... no. Merely putting an image into a game more or less as-is does not mean that you have "transformed" it and that the fair use exception applies. If that's all it took, it would pretty much make copyright for images void. (Also, by the same logic you would be free to rip any assets, music, etc. without restriction as long as you put them together into a new game. Obviously that's not how things work.) The link posted by 169134 includes a short discussion of how courts understand "transformative": it's a much higher bar.

In actuality, legal practice around copyrighted images is crazy strict. For example, movies and TV shows usually can't show posters on the wall in the background of a shot without clearing them first, and will sometimes decorate sets with blank green posters to CGI in later, depending on what they're able to license. You even see this in some porn, where they blur out art on the wall. (I suspect that if someone got sued over something like this but fought the case to the Supreme Court they might win, but it's not a sure thing.)

All the porn games using "found photos" and videos are operating way outside of copyright law.

Now, in this particular case, the graphics may actually be sufficiently modified from the original sources, though I wouldn't bet on it. They're clearly still derivative works, and the fact that they use the likeness of a real person, taken from commercial photos/videos without license or permission, wouldn't help.
Okay. I guess I was wrong.
 
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Smellfire

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If you made a game where you were critiqueing the "value" of images or movies in various catagories, with a recognised format in doing so, you could get away with very little editing. But it would have to be substantial and I don't see how you could make that enjoyable.

Enough stuff free from copywrite if you look hard enough.
 
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