fishbrain

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If scenes are optional as stated under genres, you should get the kinetic tag removed.
 

shavone1

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Nice work, I can see the improvement since the first iteration. The best AI graphics are when there's no noticeable difference to the face/body in each scene. I think your almost there but it's quite good how far you've got it. Great stuff!
 

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First time I've seen a hooded old man getting some ripe pussy. :love:

Animations are good quality. Hot scenes. Hopefully more foreplay in the future and more slutty outfits/teasing would be nice. (y)
 

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I'd like to try this Special, but is it compatible with Win 7 (I know...I know... ^^)?
That is...are you still using the same version of Renpy or have you switched to the most recent one, which requires Win10+?
i honestly don’t know, it’s renpy so maybe, let do some checks
 

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Yes Blair Witch style, if she ever did smile, this is what it would look like.
it’s weird because in 3d daz games there’s soo many similar renders and no one gets creeped out at a cartoon smiling… it must the ai realism and fluidity
 

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it's in 4k and some animations are 200-300mb and renpy has a really bad way of supporting that, it's ram based, if you have 16gb ram or around there it will be slower... we have around 45-47 minutes of animated content and some animations are 90s
And, moreover, CPU based. RP kinda sucks at video playback as it is (I believe it also isn't a prio for the dev, since it's a (quoting) ), and it doesn't support HW acceleration.
And, I don't know how your game is scripted (haven't checked it), but a lot of devs are apparently not aware of RP's behaviour (scene vs show), or perhaps don't care much about optimization in that regard, and are (unwittingly) stacking up animations (and/or images) until the next `scene` occurs. 1 stacked up video can already be killing for potatoes. As can a couple of stacked up 4K renders.

I'd seriously consider releasing a (VP8/9) 30fps 1080p video pack (rpa) for anyone that hasn't got a beefy machine that can handle unaccelerated 4K video (let alone @ 60fps).

Also PSA: don't play the compressed version if you want the game to look good. WebP is absolute garbage for 4K images, especially AI-polished ones. They look best in PNG or at least JPG at 70% quality. WebP just murders the image quality, so you're basically playing a potato version of the game.
Yes, WebP at 80% (what is the consensus believe) is pretty bad. 90% would be a lot better, but better still: AVIF (or, prolly even better yet, but alas unsupported by RP, JPEG XL).

i honestly don’t know, it’s renpy so maybe, let do some checks
It's RP 8.3.4, thus Win7/8 compatible - edit: oh wait, that's your main game, dunno about the special..
 
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And, moreover, CPU based. RP kinda sucks at video playback as it is (I believe it also isn't a prio for the dev, since it's a ), and it doesn't support HW acceleration.
And, I don't know how your game is scripted (haven't checked it), but a lot of devs are apparently not aware of RP's behaviour (scene vs show), or perhaps don't care much about optimization in that regard, and are stacking up animations (and/or images) until the next `scene` occurs. 1 stacked up video can already be killing for potatoes. As can a couple of stacked up 4K renders.

I'd seriously consider releasing a (VP8/9) 30fps 1080p video pack (rpa) for anyone that hasn't got a beefy machine that can handle unaccelerated 4K video (let alone @ 60fps).


Yes, WebP at 80% (what is the consensus believe) is pretty bad. 90% would be a lot better, but better still: AVIF (or, prolly even better, but unsupported by RP, JPEG XL).


It's RP 8.3.4, thus Win7/8 compatible - edit: oh wait, that's your main game, dunno about the special..
Thanks for the detailed feedback! You're absolutely right about the performance challenges. We actually tackled the memory leak issue a while back - we discovered scenes with 120+ images and 20+ animations were causing major RAM issues. Since we couldn't split certain scenes without breaking the narrative flow, we implemented automatic memory clears every 5-10 scenes to prevent RAM buildup.


Regarding video optimization - we understand 4K@60fps is demanding without hardware acceleration. We initially committed to shipping a 4K experience because our workflow involves extensive AI enhancement for micro-details (facial features, hair textures, clothing details, etc.) that standard Daz renders typically lack. These enhancements unfortunately degrade significantly when compressed to WebP at 80% - the details get completely washed out.


You make a valid point about offering a 1080p@30fps VP8/9 pack for lower-spec machines. We'll seriously consider this as an optional download. We've been recommending players avoid the compressed versions precisely because WebP compression destroys the AI-enhanced detail work we put so much effort into.


For image format, I agree AVIF at 90%+ would be ideal (JPEG XL would be perfect but as you noted, no Ren'Py support). We're exploring options that preserve quality while improving performance.
 

alinoris

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i honestly don’t know, it’s renpy so maybe, let do some checks
Well...if for the Halloween Special you used the same Renpy version of the main game (at least the versions uploaded here on F95) then it's ok for me.
I want to subscribe to your Patreon to try the HS, but before I need to know if I can play it ofc ^^
As srfsmrf_ wrote, Renpy 8.3.4 (the one you used for SDF 1.12) is still ok for Win7, but if later you've switched to 8.4, I can't play under Win7.
 
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