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Jasmine, Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Little Mermaid go through an adventure, and marry the man of their dreams...
while Alice spends 75 min in an insane world, with nothing to show for it...

so,
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:rolleyes: SOUNDS FAIR!
I do like this idea. I've been nervous about parody laws, although I've seen a game with Disney princesses, a couple games with Harry Potter characters; With free to play but some special items and latest updates are for subscribers only, for their funding model and Disney hasn't sewed them.

From what I've read I get the general impression that Parody laws can be a little subjective. I'll do more research to be safe.

But on the other hand, you have growing cancel culture with petitions like this:



65,000 signatures and counting to provoke Disney to lay waste to all the porn paradise of their princesses online, probably starting with bigger projects like games. I've watched, as many have seen, the destruction and pain caused by companies when cancel culture pressure from petitions reaches a certain threshold. Will Disney ever cave?

I'll have to give this some thought. Going to watch/read more about "Dumb Starbucks", the guy that made that knows parody law well.
 
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I lol'd at being called a possible extremist :)
But, no. I quite enjoy futa games. And while the 'futa superiority' plays very well and strongly in games like Futadom, this one just did it in a horrible and creepy way.

A futa goes into 'heat', then focuses on a girl, forces themselves on her (that's what happened to Hannah, apparently. And the one who did it makes it sound like that's very normal), and gets her pregnant. Once the child is born, the girl loses their pussy and grows a dick in its place. Which they somehow think makes them 'superior' to men and women, even though they've only become a dickgirl at that point.
Honestly, I think their pheremones may have some kind of hypno properties, with how the girls went from 'Oh my god, no!' to 'Okay' and 'this feels good' almost instantly. Not perfect, because they're fightable. But definitely 'increases suggestion' type.

I didn't want to give a false review, so I went ahead and soldiered on through the rest of the game. The sex itself wasn't 'terrible'. But it also wasn't great. And reading the text that made them sound like rapists trying to calm down a victim didn't help.
Gonna stick to my guns and say that these aren't futa, though. Because they aren't.
Thanks. I'll make sure to use the correct terminology if I have any more of these sort of characters in future projects.
 
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Thanks. I'll make sure to use the correct terminology if I have any more of these sort of characters in future projects.
Your reply surprised me a bit. Lots of devs end up arguing about the term, lol.
My biggest question is why the stupid sounding "we're superior" beliefs when they just go from female to male with breasts? I understand it in Futadom World because they're quite literally genetically superior in strength and other physical abilities (even though they aren't actually futa either). But your characters didn't seem to gain much of anything being forcefully transformed.
 

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Ok guess I really don't know how to get it even working :confused: All I get is black screen and mouse cursor change.

Went and downloaded and removed comment earlier assuming needing the engine but that don't seem to be the case..
If the black screen is after you click start from the main menu it's probably loading. It takes a little while, I tried to optimize and multi-thread loading as much as I could but It seems to be a limitation on the Godot engine, which is one reason I may simply do pre-rendered stuff with Ren-Py in the future, to have essentially no loading times.

If the game just doesn't start at all, and you're using windows then the "exe" and the "pck" file have to stay in the same folder after you unzip. They also have to stay the same file name, so if you decide to rename one you would have to rename the other also.
 

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Your reply surprised me a bit. Lots of devs end up arguing about the term, lol.
My biggest question is why the stupid sounding "we're superior" beliefs when they just go from female to male with breasts? I understand it in Futadom World because they're quite literally genetically superior in strength and other physical abilities (even though they aren't actually futa either). But your characters didn't seem to gain much of anything being forcefully transformed.
In the story I wrote they do grow a little taller when they become a dick girl but not super strong. It's mostly a status symbol representing their position in society, similar to how having a beard would be somewhat of a status symbol in certain cultures that more highly value older persons (not western culture).

But more than that, it's also a little bit of my dark humor on how people derive self worth from arguable arbitrary characteristics and symbols; being part of one social group or another, the genetic equivalent of peak-cock feathers that entail a slight survival dis-advantage, a particular brand of clothing, or some other self indulgent construct. I was making fun of the possibility that societal stratification is sometimes based on categorizations that would only make sense to the people fully immersed in the cultures and systems of that world. So Parody.
 

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Well if you post more, I'll definitely check them out.
I enjoy futa on female, and even dickgirl on female.
Though you may want to alter the transformation a bit. Instead of getting pregnant once and being screwed (pun intended), maybe add in additional factors? Like drinking cum straight from the tap during their menses or something. Add hormonal changes into the transformation, so you don't have a bunch of rape victims suddenly transforming like apparently Hannah went through?
Or make them actual futa (both sexual organs) so they don't lose any chance of becoming a mother just because they miscarried or had an accident during their first (and only, with your lore) pregnancy.
There are some stupidly easy and ridiculous ways to lose a baby. My aunt lost one because she twisted her ankle on stairs, causing her to fall wrong.

I know it's fiction. But a good backstory and lore can help a game a lot.
 

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Well if you post more, I'll definitely check them out.
I enjoy futa on female, and even dickgirl on female.
Though you may want to alter the transformation a bit. Instead of getting pregnant once and being screwed (pun intended), maybe add in additional factors? Like drinking cum straight from the tap during their menses or something. Add hormonal changes into the transformation, so you don't have a bunch of rape victims suddenly transforming like apparently Hannah went through?
Or make them actual futa (both sexual organs) so they don't lose any chance of becoming a mother just because they miscarried or had an accident during their first (and only, with your lore) pregnancy.
There are some stupidly easy and ridiculous ways to lose a baby. My aunt lost one because she twisted her ankle on stairs, causing her to fall wrong.

I know it's fiction. But a good backstory and lore can help a game a lot.
Thank you! Those are all great ideas.

I was afraid of getting too into the details/world mechanics and slowing down the plot with this one, so I cut some biological/technical details in favor of more immediate interpersonal conflicts to keep the tension higher.

But I'm getting the impression that perhaps a lot of people may like longer stories, as well as all the sci-fi and biological stuff, especially if it can be made smutty.

I'll make sure I do more world building for the next one. Thanks again!
 

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Is there any way to play this windowed? I have a 21:9 screen and the images look stretched (as common with most non-mainstream games), but there is no windows options, video driver option or screen splitting that has been capable of solving this for this game (which is unusual, one of the above solutions usually works). Ideas?
 

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Is there any way to play this windowed? I have a 21:9 screen and the images look stretched (as common with most non-mainstream games), but there is no windows options, video driver option or screen splitting that has been capable of solving this for this game (which is unusual, one of the above solutions usually works). Ideas?
I didn't make any way to play windowed. I don't have the code any more, I butchered it with improvements for my next title so it's no longer compatible with the Soft Serve Story.

I could be wrong, but if you try playing it and get through the main menu and loading screen, things should look good after that, for the actual story. I remember setting everything up so the story looks good at different scales. The text shouldn't stretch and the camera should just get wider. I thought I did all of this before compiling for Soft Serve, but again I might be wrong.


If all else fails, there may be an option specific too your graphics card. Something like below:



If this doesn't work either, I am very sorry. I will make sure to have a windowed option for all future works.
 

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If all else fails, there may be an option specific too your graphics card. Something like below:
Yeah, no, I tried that of course. Unfortunately it didn't work (I have an AMD card, and the option for preserving aspect ratio has always been...defective at best).
Don't worry about it, anyway, I'm kinda used to it :) I played it and it was an interesting take on the whole futa thing. I feel like you've been already given very sound advice earlier about your lore, I'll just sit back and see where you're going with this :)
 

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Yeah, no, I tried that of course. Unfortunately it didn't work (I have an AMD card, and the option for preserving aspect ratio has always been...defective at best).
Damn. :unsure:

Don't worry about it, anyway, I'm kinda used to it :) I played it and it was an interesting take on the whole futa thing. I feel like you've been already given very sound advice earlier about your lore, I'll just sit back and see where you're going with this :)
For sure. My next world/universe will be lore heavy. Thanks.
 

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If the black screen is after you click start from the main menu it's probably loading. It takes a little while, I tried to optimize and multi-thread loading as much as I could but It seems to be a limitation on the Godot engine, which is one reason I may simply do pre-rendered stuff with Ren-Py in the future, to have essentially no loading times.

If the game just doesn't start at all, and you're using windows then the "exe" and the "pck" file have to stay in the same folder after you unzip. They also have to stay the same file name, so if you decide to rename one you would have to rename the other also.
Ya it was not loading at all and didn't change anything, I just unpack click exe and then get black screen (and mouse change). I do use Windows 10 I will try again in near future.
good on you for all your replies btw for sure many devs can learn from that. (Most so on correct terminology and not getting crazy when someone lets you know). -->
I yet to even play game (obviously), but guess it seems true so again great :cool: of you.
 

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Ya it was not loading at all and didn't change anything, I just unpack click exe and then get black screen (and mouse change). I do use Windows 10 I will try again in near future.
good on you for all your replies btw for sure many devs can learn from that. (Most so on correct terminology and not getting crazy when someone lets you know). -->
I yet to even play game (obviously), but guess it seems true so again great :cool: of you.
Thanks. Yah, sorry about that. I'll most likely use something more stable and less complex for my next game like Renpy.

Details about that other thing.... when I wrote the VN I used wikipedia's more flexible definition of Futa (short for Futanari):



But I trust F9zone experts to have the most up to date definitions, rather than wikipedia authors which seem to be referencing works from the 1960s. Really interesting history though; the Origins of Futa's reach back possible to the origins of Buddhism.
 

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Thanks. Yah, sorry about that. I'll most likely use something more stable and less complex for my next game like Renpy.

Details about that other thing.... when I wrote the VN I used wikipedia's more flexible definition of Futa (short for Futanari):



But I trust F9zone experts to have the most up to date definitions, rather than wikipedia authors which seem to be referencing works from the 1960s. Really interesting history though; the Origins of Futa's reach back possible to the origins of Buddhism.
Ya sadly :( I can't seem to get passed black screen on 1st load.

I mean saying 1 guy speaks all for f95 and is expert bit far (why I wanted to give it a try and also warned person despite almost doing same as he + I rarely see such futa animated content and really wanted to ).
->Though from some the reading it does sound like it for sure closer to trans morphing then futa, I mean losing vagina -> dick as a permanent thing is basically a full trans thing by definition though there countless futas where a dick simply grows out of the puss and either temporary replaces it or leaves it below it.


Futa actually seems plenty accurate more back then, than today at times also and fact it is far to debated by everyone even shown by wiki.

Wiki First says:
Futa which includes fictional characters that show both primary sexual characteristics
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this is imo and many of a most proper futa aka dick+puss (/w balls optional)

But Then Says:
In today's language it refers almost exclusively to fictional characters who have an overall female body, but have male genitalia (although a vagina and/or testicles are not always present)
->
aka it actually more today that has been changing it and hence the non-stop debate Including here on F95--> why I just say most proper futa being the both.
 
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Jowaxe:

Okay, downloaded, open the .rar, started game . . . . . Ummm . . All the 'light-skinned' characters, are now "Black" skinned, they look like 3D silhouettes, with no details shown :oops: !

There are only 2 items in the folder : SoftServe_Windows.exe, & SoftServe_Windows.pck !

The starkness of the characters , makes it un-playable ! :(:confused:

Hope it's a 'bug' that can be squashed soon .
 

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Jowaxe:

Okay, downloaded, open the .rar, started game . . . . . Ummm . . All the 'light-skinned' characters, are now "Black" skinned, they look like 3D silhouettes, with no details shown :oops: !

There are only 2 items in the folder : SoftServe_Windows.exe, & SoftServe_Windows.pck !

The starkness of the characters , makes it un-playable ! :(:confused:

Hope it's a 'bug' that can be squashed soon .
Damn. :(

So... here's the story behind that...

I used a game engine called the "Godot" engine. I choose it because I wanted to make a real time 3D game. I looked at other engines like Unreal and Unity, and according to their terms of use they can cancle your access to their engine at any time for any reason or no reason at all. Meaning, if any one complains about or doesn't like your game they can kill your ability to work on it and there's nothing you can do about it.

Also, although it looks like they changed it now, I believe I remember reading Unreal's terms of use and seeing specifically porn games banned from being made as well as gambling games. Either way, these engines can update their terms of use at any time and ban any one even if they don't violate the terms of use. When mobs form to ban a game (often porn games), they can ban it from one platform and then you can go to another platform, or better wait a good amount of time for the mob to dissipate before moving to a new platform so they don't follow you and attempt to scorch earth ban you from everywhere. However if you got banned from the engine itself, for making a game or visual novel that that some people didn't like, you would have to re-write everything for an new engine. This process may seem easy but takes years.

So I decided to go with Godot game engine. From the metrics I could see it was the fastest growing open source, community built game engine with no restrictive licence open to every one to build with.

When working with the Godot engine, over time I came across many many performance issues and bugs but with some creativity I was able to work around them or build my own script modules that did what the broken official engine modules did, in some cases. For example, re-writing the glitchy IK module or adapting my entire art style to work without alpha transparent textures as are typically used in hair because it absolutely killed the frame rate, and many, many other things. I thought all engines have bugs, and you just work around them. I also believed over time the community would iron out many of the bugs and performance issues, which I still think eventually they will but that is happening way to slow for me to use Godot now, and the engine code was too complex and changing too fast for me too dig in myself.

I had been posting my Kinetic Novels made with Godot on Itch.io but hadn't received comments. After posting here, although it seems to work for some people, I've got more than enough comments for me to conclude that the engine unfortunately does not produce a stable consistent performance or output across platforms.

TLDR: Sorry about that. I will use an engine with a much more consistent performance and behavior across multiple hardware and platforms for my next one.

Specifically I'll likely use Ren-py. It's simplicity combined with it's popularity for Visual Novels pretty much guarantees a much more stable performance across hardware. While I still want to push things on the technology side to produce effects that aren't typical of the genera, I can do so with Blender because the pre-rendered images and videos created with blender are far more stable and consistent than anything where the graphics cards are attempting to make all kinds of proprietary trade-offs to attempt real time output in some hope of compatibility with the engine, which in this case is a smaller engine the major graphics cards likely don't have a working up to date relationship with.

So... big lesson learned for me. Also thanks for the feedback. Sorry, I won't let you down again.
 

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Jowaxe:

Ummm . . . I really hope this wont prevent you from continuing to use the character models, you used in this game. I'm maybe the only one, (by what I've read here), that Likes those creative models, (especially Alice, :p, she's just so cute, innocent, and petite, both in height & body shape).

I wish I knew how to 'capture' a screen shot of what I was seeing, to give you a better idea, as to what happened to cause that malfunction. Sorry.
 

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Jowaxe:

Ummm . . . I really hope this wont prevent you from continuing to use the character models, you used in this game. I'm maybe the only one, (by what I've read here), that Likes those creative models, (especially Alice, :p, she's just so cute, innocent, and petite, both in height & body shape).

I wish I knew how to 'capture' a screen shot of what I was seeing, to give you a better idea, as to what happened to cause that malfunction. Sorry.
Thanks. I agree. I spent a lot of time testing various stylized ways of creating things and how they meshed together in building those characters. I'm not about to throw it all away, but what I am doing now for my next VN is refining my textures, adding more detail to the model but trying to be subtle with it to keep a clean look, and redoing things like the shoulder joint, over and over, because the shoulder joint is the trickiest human joint to get looking good when in bends.

So here's a screenshot of the work I've been doing on my base model, which I will eventually slightly scale/moph/edit, and create a bunch of different outfits/hair styles/etc. to turn into different characters for my next VN. Possible an epic fantasy with lots of player freedom and dating sim stuff, although I have a number of possible story ideas I'm refining.

The model's got a ton more work left, like I need to create a good eye shader for blender (not using my Godot eye shader), do more work on the hands, hair, lips etc. But the general idea... I'm not throwing away the model just refining it and continuing to tweak and play around with things.
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Thanks. I agree. I spent a lot of time testing various stylized ways of creating things and how they meshed together in building those characters. I'm not about to throw it all away, but what I am doing now for my next VN is refining my textures, adding more detail to the model but trying to be subtle with it to keep a clean look, and redoing things like the shoulder joint, over and over, because the shoulder joint is the trickiest human joint to get looking good when in bends.

So here's a screenshot of the work I've been doing on my base model, which I will eventually slightly scale/moph/edit, and create a bunch of different outfits/hair styles/etc. to turn into different characters for my next VN. Possible an epic fantasy with lots of player freedom and dating sim stuff, although I have a number of possible story ideas I'm refining.

The model's got a ton more work left, like I need to create a good eye shader for blender (not using my Godot eye shader), do more work on the hands, hair, lips etc. But the general idea... I'm not throwing away the model just refining it and continuing to tweak and play around with things.
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Well, the model does look to be a little more smoothed/rounded of the sharper edges, less 'chunky' , (not that it was all that 'chunky' to begin with, my opinion).
 

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