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As I see it the placeholders are there conceptually, it's more of a could than something concrete when they were put in the game, only now they are a must have to people. For instance even though they are in the UI the robotics and powers still have no place in this game, Lex costumes and the threat system are basically useless and the Heist system is clearly put together just to have some gameplay and add time to a playthrough. The number of girls and cells have also been raised at some point if I'm not mistaken, the scope of the game has changed during the development. You have to not pay attention to think that the game has not changed priorities and planned size during development.
I think SR7 already has a "finished" game about Korra with very underdeveloped features.
I'm honestly not expecting much from this game anymore considering the lack of care to other elements and SR7's commentary of "It's just a Porn Game." regardless of what adjective you put in front of game it's a game and those who put in care and passion into a game will show it in how they talk about it. chances are even upon completion outside of the artwork you'll get a mediocre experience at best so I think it's best to keep humbled expectations of the project till it's complete. at worst you are going to get a interactive asset collection, at best a visual novel that is slightly better then some of the other offerings. presently nothing in the "game" can't currently be done in ren'py in some fashion at a faster pace, so it'll be interesting to see what elements are added and worked on that made Unity with the fungus visual editor the better choice. since we know the artwork is great and will remain a consistent quality the only way to properly judge this game will be from it's Gameplay and Story, two things that have been lacking since the beginning.
 
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Gnutt

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After all this time, and there's still such a shitty saving mechanism. Why can't they add more slots? Why no rollback in the dialogue? They really handled the engine poorly.
I believe SR7 addressed the save question in one of the most recent streams. He said that it would be a nightmare to change now, and that he doesn't like it either. The reason it's the way it is is because the game was never supposed to be this vast. He's been trying to fix legacy issues as he goes, but the more time that he spends on the backend the more people get upset that there isn't enough content. He's trying to balance everything while still producing. The rollback question is something different altogether. This is more of a Renpy function than a Unity one, yeah? Regardless, I'd chalk it up to the same thing as the saves: he'd didn't do it initially because his plan for the game has changed and corners cut at the beginning are causing him headaches now.
Tl;DR He acknowledges that the systems aren't idea, but changing it now would be too time consuming.

Edit: JC23 already answered this. Too much Lager, please disregard.
 

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SR7 was learning to code while doing the code for the game, so it's not a very good code, he also didn't plan on the game being this big. Maybe someday he will fix it and make it enjoyable to replay or to play without cheats, but SR7 has a crazy, paranoid fear that if he hires someone who can actually code the dude is going to abandon the project, so who knows...
You are pretty much on point regarding the coding aspect of this statement, although the statement about being "paranoid" is way off base, so I will address that. The idea that we won't hire a programmer to SU is because we are structured around deadlines and how long the project has been developed for. If you look at other devs (ViperV, Breeding Season, Future Fragments, Sim Bro's,...etc) we see a constant issue with one party not getting the job done in the time frame promised. You must realize that when using crowdfunding as a creator you are under constant scrutiny regarding "milking or scamming" so if we miss an update or not deliver on a promise we then become no better than the other 1000's of crowdfunded projects that scammed people. As you can see the smart business decision would be to continue to keep this project solo so we can move forward and invest in our team on other projects that are NOT time sensitive.

I'm honestly not expecting much from this game anymore considering the lack of care to other elements and SR7's commentary of "It's just a Porn Game." regardless of what adjective you put in front of game it's a game and those who put in care and passion into a game will show it in how they talk about it. chances are even upon completion outside of the artwork you'll get a mediocre experience at best so I think it's best to keep humbled expectations of the project till it's complete. at worst you are going to get a interactive asset collection, at best a visual novel that is slightly better then some of the other offerings. presently nothing in the "game" can't currently be done in ren'py in some fashion at a faster pace, so it'll be interesting to see what elements are added and worked on that made Unity with the fungus visual editor the better choice. since we know the artwork is great and will remain a consistent quality the only way to properly judge this game will be from it's Gameplay and Story, two things that have been lacking since the beginning.
You make this sound as if SR7 doesn't truly care about this project, and that cannot be further from the truth. If you look at his past projects, most have been abandoned before they even neared completion due to boredom. Now with SU he has the ability to create and love what he creates. You can see he cares throughout this project as the quality is always improving (I mean the guy is even fucking animating his art now!!!). As for waiting for completion, what's in it for us to complete this project? Do we have a platform to sell it? Can we sell it? Do we have another project to fall back on? Has SR7 finished all the ideas in his head? Is he bored?. The answer to all these questions is NO, so I can see him working on this game for many more years to come. This is why we are investing in our team outside this project in order to create more. Our patreon isn't just SU there is much more going on, we currently have an artist and programmer on staff.

Lastly to come in after 2.5 years of development and say "should have just used ren'py" shows you were not around when we initially answered these questions. The reason we used unity was due to SR7's competency and familiarity with the program and basic knowledge of C#. So instead of starting a game and learning python, we started a game with an engine we had knowledge of. Also realize that this version of Unity we are using is 2.5 years old now, and the version of fungus is around 2 years old.

I believe SR7 addressed the save question in one of the most recent streams. He said that it would be a nightmare to change now, and that he doesn't like it either. The reason it's the way it is is because the game was never supposed to be this vast. He's been trying to fix legacy issues as he goes, but the more time that he spends on the backend the more people get upset that there isn't enough content. He's trying to balance everything while still producing. The rollback question is something different altogether. This is more of a Renpy function than a Unity one, yeah? Regardless, I'd chalk it up to the same thing as the saves: he'd didn't do it initially because his plan for the game has changed and corners cut at the beginning are causing him headaches now.
Tl;DR He acknowledges that the systems aren't idea, but changing it now would be too time consuming.

Edit: JC23 already answered this. Too much Lager, please disregard.
Exactly this!!!
 

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You are pretty much on point regarding the coding aspect of this statement, although the statement about being "paranoid" is way off base, so I will address that. The idea that we won't hire a programmer to SU is because we are structured around deadlines and how long the project has been developed for. If you look at other devs (ViperV, Breeding Season, Future Fragments, Sim Bro's,...etc) we see a constant issue with one party not getting the job done in the time frame promised. You must realize that when using crowdfunding as a creator you are under constant scrutiny regarding "milking or scamming" so if we miss an update or not deliver on a promise we then become no better than the other 1000's of crowdfunded projects that scammed people. As you can see the smart business decision would be to continue to keep this project solo so we can move forward and invest in our team on other projects that are NOT time sensitive.


Our patreon isn't just SU there is much more going on, we currently have an artist and programmer on staff.
Oh thanks for the answer, it's just that I remembered some time ago SR7 giving that excuse of "the programmer is going to run off for sure" and I thought it was a little paranoid, but your answer clarified it.
I still think that having a programmer even if it is for basic stuff would help this game, I mean you already had to change the way to give updates(deadlines... where have I heard this before?) because SR7 can't put enough content in the game for the month.
I do have some questions, if you were to take a look at them, reflect on it or maybe give some answers I think it could benefit everybody. Here they are:

- Maybe ask the programmer to review parts of the code and come up with better solutions? The projects he's working on are not time sensitive, so why not let him do some time sensitive work instead or maybe a parallel version until the content syncs and then SR7 jumps into the better version?

- Why not have the programmer on staff take a look at it in December? SR7 was taking the month off anyway, or in this new system have a month only for programming? Maybe to work on a parallel version as I suggested, could even help on replacing old animations, that is a tiresome boring job and make it more exciting for SR7 since he wouldn't need to program and do the replacement, just the drawings.

- Why not take some time off the project to work on the engine? I think your patrons would probably be okay with it, if it helped out on later content.

EDIT: For better understanding, and if my questions were confusing or too convoluted just PM @SmokeShank , btw sorry for the long post.
 

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You are pretty much on point regarding the coding aspect of this statement, although the statement about being "paranoid" is way off base, so I will address that. The idea that we won't hire a programmer to SU is because we are structured around deadlines and how long the project has been developed for. If you look at other devs (ViperV, Breeding Season, Future Fragments, Sim Bro's,...etc) we see a constant issue with one party not getting the job done in the time frame promised. You must realize that when using crowdfunding as a creator you are under constant scrutiny regarding "milking or scamming" so if we miss an update or not deliver on a promise we then become no better than the other 1000's of crowdfunded projects that scammed people. As you can see the smart business decision would be to continue to keep this project solo so we can move forward and invest in our team on other projects that are NOT time sensitive.



You make this sound as if SR7 doesn't truly care about this project, and that cannot be further from the truth. If you look at his past projects, most have been abandoned before they even neared completion due to boredom. Now with SU he has the ability to create and love what he creates. You can see he cares throughout this project as the quality is always improving (I mean the guy is even fucking animating his art now!!!). As for waiting for completion, what's in it for us to complete this project? Do we have a platform to sell it? Can we sell it? Do we have another project to fall back on? Has SR7 finished all the ideas in his head? Is he bored?. The answer to all these questions is NO, so I can see him working on this game for many more years to come. This is why we are investing in our team outside this project in order to create more. Our patreon isn't just SU there is much more going on, we currently have an artist and programmer on staff.
I had a huge typed up rebuttal bashing all the BS SR7 staff have pulled on this site then thought about it and thought " yeah I can't be as petty as SR7's Staff." so just going to put this out there while not the exact wording you effectively admitted SR7 is Milking the game without saying he's Milking it, and that's not a bad thing till we go back to the lack of care in both the story and game play, issues I brought up that were conveniently avoided in your reply. you mentioned 2.5 years but of which a full year SU was taking the back burner and it had a detrimental effect on his Patreon as aggregate sites can show. you also admitted that SR7 drops projects, he does this fairly frequently when looking at the bulk of his previous work which again shows lack of care for his projects. and for the love of god stop constantly bringing up Games with Mismanagement it wasn't so much the coder's faults as it was the Idiots running the patreon and the direction of the game oh wait... Point being next time pick your battles better and if it's written in a fashion that doesn't warrant a response, then best bet not to respond.

P.S. Other then the coding bit which I brought up as a barbed joke (as Artists tend to prefer Ren'Py) which you took seriously and proceeded to go after me on, nothing you've said rebuttals my previous statement, Especially when we bring up his previous works. I don't mean to come off as too combative but come on you of all people smokeshank should of been able to do a better job spin doctoring that.
 
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I had a huge typed up rebuttal bashing all the BS SR7 staff have pulled on this site then thought about it and thought " yeah I can't be as petty as SR7's Staff." so just going to put this out there while not the exact wording you effectively admitted SR7 is Milking the game without saying he's Milking it, and that's not a bad thing till we go back to the lack of care in both the story and game play, issues I brought up that were conveniently avoided in your reply. you mentioned 2.5 years but of which a full year SU was taking the back burner and it had a detrimental effect on his Patreon as aggregate sites can show. you also admitted that SR7 drops projects, he does this fairly frequently when looking at the bulk of his previous work which again shows lack of care for his projects. and for the love of god stop constantly bringing up Games with Mismanagement it wasn't so much the coder's faults as it was the Idiots running the patreon and the direction of the game oh wait... Point being next time pick your battles better and if it's written in a fashion that doesn't warrant a response, then best bet not to respond.

P.S. Other then the coding bit which I brought up as a barbed joke (as Artists tend to prefer Ren'Py) which you took seriously and proceeded to go after me on, nothing you've said rebuttals my previous statement, Especially when we bring up his previous works. I don't mean to come off as too combative but come on you of all people smokeshank should of been able to do a better job spin doctoring that.
Lets point out the blatant miss information you keep spreading.

1) I am 50% owner of this company and have been since day 1. Not Staff, I hire the staff.

2) SU was on the back burner from Jan 2016 - April 2016 so only 4 months (not a year), after which the project came back online. And if you were referring to the beginning when we had other things going on such as comics and art. Well we dropped everything other than games in Oct 2015 only 4 months after we started our Patreon and 3 months after SU began.

3) As for the other "projects" SR7 has dropped we are talking free comics before Patreon. So since WE started (SR7 and Myself), we have put out a full 20+ page comic (Completed for free) over 100+ pictures (Completed) a Newgrounds game (Completed) that has over 600k plays and over 4+ stars on Newgrounds (Completed). We have one project in active development where we have never missed a deadline or delivery regardless of setbacks. We also have another project that will be released this year in active development.

4) As for keep bringing up mismanagement, you seem to miss the point in my pointing to those projects. The point being is we are keeping a close hand on our project to AVOID MISMANAGEMENT.

5) And milking? So like doing work every month and delivering a project so that we continuously grow and get more funding in order to hire more people and create more awesome games for people to play. Like that kind of milking? Or like intentionally not doing any work and putting out 0 updates and still raking in money every month like many of the creators I mentioned in my original post. See we don't milk anything other than the creative tits of SR7's perverted mind.

6) We have had only 5 months of negative or 0 growth 4 of which came after our DMCA which aggregate sites will show. This is out of 31ish months on Patreon, not that detrimental.


I'm personally done disproving all your comments and miss information. But thank you for the support and hope you enjoy the release at the end of March (because you and I both know you will still play it).
 

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Lets point out the blatant miss information you keep spreading.
5) And milking? So like doing work every month and delivering a project so that we continuously grow and get more funding in order to hire more people and create more awesome games for people to play. Like that kind of milking? Or like intentionally not doing any work and putting out 0 updates and still raking in money every month like many of the creators I mentioned in my original post. See we don't milk anything other than the creative tits of SR7's perverted mind.
First, thank you for correcting me, I appreciate you taking the time to set things straight.

As far as the milking it, I'm refering to finding a profitable niche gap in the market and not understanding what composes that niche while continuing to profit from it. any flaw in a niche such as one that revolves around comics can start small but it slowly grows and eventually consumes, as Marvel is currently learning with their comic book division and it's sales. Actually it's gotten so bad for marvel on some comics they can't even get the bare minimum orders to do printing, so you could say this is another form of mismanagement. it's a industry that nitpicks so any little error that goes on for long enough will tend to overshadow what the error is in. that's not to say risks can't be taken Ideas can't be done it's that they have to be thought through, added in a fashion that understands the universe that it exists in or create a new one altogether.

when talking DCAU you are talking 9 animated series not including movies & 14 comic book series, and of course several games. Granted games are always given some limited leniency for gameplay, but not a small mix media by any standard. so that universe is safely established the characters that are there are there, the groups and organizations that are there are there. but then someone decides lets put in things that are contradictory to what is established well beyond the alternative timeline plot, things that are so contradictory that unless explained make absolutely no sense as to their existence there, but there is no explanation. Now some of these things could work on their own but then these things bring mention of other contradictory things, again with no explanation. contradictory things keep getting added and stacked and added eventually these contradictions out shine the universe they are placed in without rhyme or reason they just are. well Marvel has already found out what happens when you keep blindly stacking contradictions.

That's not to say DCAU is not without it's contradictions, but it's contradictionss are done in such a way that they can be over looked, like you have the Talia episode in Batman beyond this explains Ra's Al Ghul's death in the DCAU but then you have the DCAU batman beyond comic story arc that introduces Damian Wayne, Bruce's and Talia's son, and the batman beyond prototype batsuit with kill function, well you have a time desynchronization error between Ra's, Talia, and Damian there, as well as Damian being the first to don the batsuit after Bruce but the story is done in such a way that it's easily overlooked or answered, because there are so many subplots and answers that make what you know about the series and characters more enjoyable. the way the desynch error is overlooked is that Damian makes little mention of his mother and that he's already replaced Ra's position within the league, which allowed for wiggle room around the error for a good story as it's made less obvious. that and it's personally hilarious to think Bruce knocked up Talia While Ra's mind was in her body as it was never established if that was the case in the DCAU, but the times do get oddly close. but yeah that's the closest thing I can think of that the DCAU does to add a character that isn't present for the most part and would otherwise be contradictory. but he's made in that universe he references what happened there and what's there so he's his own thing, he doesn't bring up things that either don't or can't exist.
 
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Any idea when the next release is coming out?
C'mon seriously? This has been stated so much. They moved to a bi-monthly release (March is release. March. MARCH MARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCH!), and always release the game at the end of the month.
 
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Mistah 50% is savage!
First, thank you for correcting me, I appreciate you taking the time to set things straight.

As far as the milking it, I'm refering to finding a profitable niche gap in the market and not understanding what composes that niche while continuing to profit from it. any flaw in a niche such as one that revolves around comics can start small but it slowly grows and eventually consumes, as Marvel is currently learning with their comic book division and it's sales. Actually it's gotten so bad for marvel on some comics they can't even get the bare minimum orders to do printing, so you could say this is another form of mismanagement. it's a industry that nitpicks so any little error that goes on for long enough will tend to overshadow what the error is in. that's not to say risks can't be taken Ideas can't be done it's that they have to be thought through, added in a fashion that understands the universe that it exists in or create a new one altogether.

when talking DCAU you are talking 9 animated series not including movies & 14 comic book series, and of course several games. Granted games are always given some limited leniency for gameplay, but not a small mix media by any standard. so that universe is safely established the characters that are there are there, the groups and organizations that are there are there. but then someone decides lets put in things that are contradictory to what is established well beyond the alternative timeline plot, things that are so contradictory that unless explained make absolutely no sense as to their existence there, but there is no explanation. Now some of these things could work on their own but then these things bring mention of other contradictory things, again with no explanation. contradictory things keep getting added and stacked and added eventually these contradictions out shine the universe they are placed in without rhyme or reason they just are. well Marvel has already found out what happens when you keep blindly stacking contradictions.

That's not to say DCAU is not without it's contradictions, but it's contradictionss are done in such a way that they can be over looked, like you have the Talia episode in Batman beyond this explains Ra's Al Ghul's death in the DCAU but then you have the DCAU batman beyond comic story arc that introduces Damian Wayne, Bruce's and Talia's son, and the batman beyond prototype batsuit with kill function, well you have a time desynchronization error between Ra's, Talia, and Damian there, as well as Damian being the first to don the batsuit after Bruce but the story is done in such a way that it's easily overlooked or answered, because there are so many subplots and answers that make what you know about the series and characters more enjoyable. the way the desynch error is overlooked is that Damian makes little mention of his mother and that he's already replaced Ra's position within the league, which allowed for wiggle room around the error for a good story as it's made less obvious. that and it's personally hilarious to think Bruce knocked up Talia While Ra's mind was in her body as it was never established if that was the case in the DCAU, but the times do get oddly close. but yeah that's the closest thing I can think of that the DCAU does to add a character that isn't present for the most part and would otherwise be contradictory. but he's made in that universe he references what happened there and what's there so he's his own thing, he doesn't bring up things that either don't or can't exist.
I'm impressed with your knowledge of the source material, even if we don't see completely eye to eye about the ramifications.
 

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First, thank you for correcting me, I appreciate you taking the time to set things straight.

As far as the milking it, I'm refering to finding a profitable niche gap in the market and not understanding what composes that niche while continuing to profit from it. any flaw in a niche such as one that revolves around comics can start small but it slowly grows and eventually consumes, as Marvel is currently learning with their comic book division and it's sales. Actually it's gotten so bad for marvel on some comics they can't even get the bare minimum orders to do printing, so you could say this is another form of mismanagement. it's a industry that nitpicks so any little error that goes on for long enough will tend to overshadow what the error is in. that's not to say risks can't be taken Ideas can't be done it's that they have to be thought through, added in a fashion that understands the universe that it exists in or create a new one altogether.

when talking DCAU you are talking 9 animated series not including movies & 14 comic book series, and of course several games. Granted games are always given some limited leniency for gameplay, but not a small mix media by any standard. so that universe is safely established the characters that are there are there, the groups and organizations that are there are there. but then someone decides lets put in things that are contradictory to what is established well beyond the alternative timeline plot, things that are so contradictory that unless explained make absolutely no sense as to their existence there, but there is no explanation. Now some of these things could work on their own but then these things bring mention of other contradictory things, again with no explanation. contradictory things keep getting added and stacked and added eventually these contradictions out shine the universe they are placed in without rhyme or reason they just are. well Marvel has already found out what happens when you keep blindly stacking contradictions.

That's not to say DCAU is not without it's contradictions, but it's contradictionss are done in such a way that they can be over looked, like you have the Talia episode in Batman beyond this explains Ra's Al Ghul's death in the DCAU but then you have the DCAU batman beyond comic story arc that introduces Damian Wayne, Bruce's and Talia's son, and the batman beyond prototype batsuit with kill function, well you have a time desynchronization error between Ra's, Talia, and Damian there, as well as Damian being the first to don the batsuit after Bruce but the story is done in such a way that it's easily overlooked or answered, because there are so many subplots and answers that make what you know about the series and characters more enjoyable. the way the desynch error is overlooked is that Damian makes little mention of his mother and that he's already replaced Ra's position within the league, which allowed for wiggle room around the error for a good story as it's made less obvious. that and it's personally hilarious to think Bruce knocked up Talia While Ra's mind was in her body as it was never established if that was the case in the DCAU, but the times do get oddly close. but yeah that's the closest thing I can think of that the DCAU does to add a character that isn't present for the most part and would otherwise be contradictory. but he's made in that universe he references what happened there and what's there so he's his own thing, he doesn't bring up things that either don't or can't exist.
Dude, you started talking about 'milking it' and then switched gear into a lore discussion involving the creepy (and absolutely plausible) theory that Bruce banged Ras in Talia's body to sire Damian - a turn even The Omen never considered pulling and absolutely worthy of a conversation in an online thread. It's disjointed.

Unfortunately you're trying to do more than switch gears in the conversation, you're switching the connotation to the word 'milking' after you already used it as a negative. But enough of the 'milking' and let's focus on the 'niche' - which SS7 has done. There's a niche for fans of the DCAU: Batman, Superman, Justice League, Young Justice and (yes, even) Teen Titans. It's the fandom, and that fandom is huge. And there's a niche of people who like Hentai - though nowadays we just call it porn. That's a fandom. And the convergence of those two fandoms who are (surprise, surprise) not satisfied by the collective works of Axel Braun is the 'niche'. OUR niche.

So long as SS7 continues to give that niche, US, what we want anybody can call that milking or pandering and it's bs; they make, we buy, we're mostly all happy. Yeah, SS7 may be unsatisfied with the work and snowballing code problems (a la Yandere Simulator vlog); yeah, we the fans may be unsatisfied that another new year passes with no Harley content and only one more girl getting properly fucked. But overall we're all happy. Personally, I don't care about those minutia. The project has gone excellently and i continue to support it (and ironically the only let's player who consistently plays it).

The only real complaint anyone could have about this game is that, because there are no win or loss conditions, it's not actually a game. Technically correct, the best kind of correct. but again idc. Even without a complex narrative or an air-tight continuity this game presents a plausible 'what if' scenario picking up after 'Showdown' and even if it turns out that Lex's character shift was the result of Joker gas, Mad Hatter mind chips, Grundy's mind control or even Mr. Mxtlpk, I'm loving the ride.
 

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Dude, you started talking about 'milking it' and then switched gear into a lore discussion involving the creepy (and absolutely plausible) theory that Bruce banged Ras in Talia's body to sire Damian - a turn even The Omen never considered pulling and absolutely worthy of a conversation in an online thread. It's disjointed.

Unfortunately you're trying to do more than switch gears in the conversation, you're switching the connotation to the word 'milking' after you already used it as a negative. But enough of the 'milking' and let's focus on the 'niche' - which SS7 has done. There's a niche for fans of the DCAU: Batman, Superman, Justice League, Young Justice and (yes, even) Teen Titans. It's the fandom, and that fandom is huge. And there's a niche of people who like Hentai - though nowadays we just call it porn. That's a fandom. And the convergence of those two fandoms who are (surprise, surprise) not satisfied by the collective works of Axel Braun is the 'niche'. OUR niche.

So long as SS7 continues to give that niche, US, what we want anybody can call that milking or pandering and it's bs; they make, we buy, we're mostly all happy. Yeah, SS7 may be unsatisfied with the work and snowballing code problems (a la Yandere Simulator vlog); yeah, we the fans may be unsatisfied that another new year passes with no Harley content and only one more girl getting properly fucked. But overall we're all happy. Personally, I don't care about those minutia. The project has gone excellently and i continue to support it (and ironically the only let's player who consistently plays it).

The only real complaint anyone could have about this game is that, because there are no win or loss conditions, it's not actually a game. Technically correct, the best kind of correct. but again idc. Even without a complex narrative or an air-tight continuity this game presents a plausible 'what if' scenario picking up after 'Showdown' and even if it turns out that Lex's character shift was the result of Joker gas, Mad Hatter mind chips, Grundy's mind control or even Mr. Mxtlpk, I'm loving the ride.
I like you. OUR Niche, indeed.
 
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Lets point out the blatant miss information you keep spreading.

1) I am 50% owner of this company and have been since day 1. Not Staff, I hire the staff.

2) SU was on the back burner from Jan 2016 - April 2016 so only 4 months (not a year), after which the project came back online. And if you were referring to the beginning when we had other things going on such as comics and art. Well we dropped everything other than games in Oct 2015 only 4 months after we started our Patreon and 3 months after SU began.

3) As for the other "projects" SR7 has dropped we are talking free comics before Patreon. So since WE started (SR7 and Myself), we have put out a full 20+ page comic (Completed for free) over 100+ pictures (Completed) a Newgrounds game (Completed) that has over 600k plays and over 4+ stars on Newgrounds (Completed). We have one project in active development where we have never missed a deadline or delivery regardless of setbacks. We also have another project that will be released this year in active development.

4) As for keep bringing up mismanagement, you seem to miss the point in my pointing to those projects. The point being is we are keeping a close hand on our project to AVOID MISMANAGEMENT.

5) And milking? So like doing work every month and delivering a project so that we continuously grow and get more funding in order to hire more people and create more awesome games for people to play. Like that kind of milking? Or like intentionally not doing any work and putting out 0 updates and still raking in money every month like many of the creators I mentioned in my original post. See we don't milk anything other than the creative tits of SR7's perverted mind.

6) We have had only 5 months of negative or 0 growth 4 of which came after our DMCA which aggregate sites will show. This is out of 31ish months on Patreon, not that detrimental.


I'm personally done disproving all your comments and miss information. But thank you for the support and hope you enjoy the release at the end of March (because you and I both know you will still play it).
Smokeshank is an intelligent businessman! My only question is what 20+ page completed comic are you refering to? Are we talking Wonder Woman or Rogue? Wonder Woman is indeed complete while I feel that Rogue is 90% finished. Just clarifying thanks! Keep up the good work!
 
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Smokeshank is an intelligent businessman! My only question is what 20+ page completed comic are you refering to? Are we talking Wonder Woman or Rogue? Wonder Woman is indeed complete while I feel that Rogue is 90% finished. Just clarifying thanks! Keep up the good work!
Looking at exhentai right now

She Hulk and Hawkeye 4 pages
Rogue Lust: Powerslave 31 pages
She Hulk Workout 6 pages
The Deal (X-Men: Evolution) 5 pages
Korra in Chains 5 pages
Vandalized 21 pages
Cheshire and Roy 4 pages
I Swear She Was 18! 2 pages
Avatar the last Airbender 12 pages
Absolute Power 7 pages
Puppet Mistres 11 pages
Child's Play 16 pages
Scarlet Fever 6 pages









 
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