Henshinvolt

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Well I have mixed feelings about not having it, I know you like defending or half-defending Sunstrider and his team but some of the shit they do on that Discord and the hivemind mentality they have created and grown in that discord; the mind games they do to their constituents is far more absuive, and far worse than any review system being put in place could do.
I don't trust Patreon to implement anything. The less they do the better and yeah there's obvious problems with the discord.
 

KamiKazoo

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Yeah I can somewhat relate to that. If the release dates were never mentioned it would cause a lot less issues though looking at metrics they would have less patrons. Looking at here and the discord it's obvious people are very annoyed by it. The only way this gets solved if SR7 completely changes the way he works.
Like, yeah, that's what I mean, he should just do away with release dates all-together and just focus on releasing the update when it's good and ready rather than just baiting people on with deadlines he's never going to meet. I don't think people would mind that strategy as much. Hell, a lot of content creators do it.

I think what I, and a lot of ex-patrons, and even current patrons would like is just for them to be honest about this instead of stringing everyone along.
 
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petur

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Reddit is... effeminate now?
What do you mean by ''now'' :LOL: ?
I'm just glad I stopped being a patron a year ago. I have no idea why people willingly pay for something that is never on time.
That's not why people pay. Patreon is not a marketplace, it is a platform where you can become a patron of the arts. If you like an artist and their work - you sponsor them(AKA you give them a few bucks so they can continue working). If you want to pay for porn there are plenty of sites where you can do that and get product per $. The only annoying thing about the current state of affairs is that there are literally only 2~3 games to look for and they all update around the same time so there are huge swathes of content drought. For example i mostly care about Summertime Saga and Something Unlimited. If only there were more quality games out there, i'm sure that there would be less blue balled and annoyed people on the internet.
 
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KK MM HH

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Umm.... Can anyone please tell me how can I play this game(not rebuilt) on Android? Is it possible? Please help me.
 

curtz

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stupid question form noobs programmer(me)
just curious,
I do not intent to mock or insult anyone
just curious,

can someone with inside knowledge tell me
what hinder Gunsmoke Games to have bimonthly update,
when studio like Miel Soft realease a full game every month?

I compare SU to miel product because Miel's game is short and does not have a deep story, just you ordinary nukige. just comparing this to an update, Miel's game feel repetitive, good enough comparison to an update.
please tell me if my logic here wrong


sorry for bad english, english is not my first language,
 

Grayking666

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stupid question form noobs programmer(me)
just curious,
I do not intent to mock or insult anyone
just curious,

can someone with inside knowledge tell me
what hinder Gunsmoke Games to have bimonthly update,
when studio like Miel Soft realease a full game every month?

I compare SU to miel product because Miel's game is short and does not have a deep story, just you ordinary nukige. just comparing this to an update, Miel's game feel repetitive, good enough comparison to an update.
please tell me if my logic here wrong


sorry for bad english, english is not my first language,
Most likely due to being an S++ tier artist who took a crash course in programming, originally having a small game which was only to consist of 6 heroines and 3(?) Henchwoman. The game blew up massively to the point where he cannot keep up with the masses wishes.

Unfortunately, instead of hiring someone to do the programming he wanted this to be his project and Unity just can't handle this game and he spends almost as much time fixing bugs as he is making new content.

Then the big elephant in the room, the schedule. He has a set schedule that he says he will release in and it went from being 1 month updates on the dot to 2 months. Then he started needing an extra week, then 1 and a half maybe even 2 weeks. Some people feel he is purposely delaying to milk patrons, some think he is a constant fibber of who covers for the fact he might not have finished in time. Some people think he gets a sick chubby from people bitching about it on the internet.

Some people think he is ripping others off, some Stan him 4ever. Me? I just wait til the game comes out, beat my meat, and then suggest fucked up ideas for the next update.
 

Patrik

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stupid question form noobs programmer(me)
just curious,
I do not intent to mock or insult anyone
just curious,

can someone with inside knowledge tell me
what hinder Gunsmoke Games to have bimonthly update,
when studio like Miel Soft realease a full game every month?

I compare SU to miel product because Miel's game is short and does not have a deep story, just you ordinary nukige. just comparing this to an update, Miel's game feel repetitive, good enough comparison to an update.
please tell me if my logic here wrong


sorry for bad english, english is not my first language,
I am programming, but I don't see the code behind the game, but I have seen many programs like a swamp (most of the time this is the example in a code quality book or article) and you just cannot move forward because of the spaghetti code.

As I said I haven't seen the code, but maybe that's why they cannot make as much effort as they did before because of the code quality and they want this rebuild version which is more clear.

But I think the truth is nearly this:

1) Usual patreon milking and slower development process
and
2) Garbage code quality and they cannot move faster and that's why we have this bughunt fest for every release
 
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Loopy

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Take this with a grain of salt, as I've not tried to decompile or otherwise reverse-engineer his code, but judging from the way the saves appear in the registry the code is a mess. He's reduced the game to something cookie cutter, where characters have between about 3 and 12 interactions in different contexts, but he hasn't generalized anything much at all. I'm guessing he does what Akabur at least used to do, and copied and pasted code everywhere, editing as needed. If Huntress gets a similar set of interactions to what Batgirl has, copy it, add in whatever new strings, change every occurrence of "batgirl" to whatever, and hope that's sufficient for a first pass.

That's just a guess, mind, but it's a pretty typical trap inexperienced devs around here fall into. It's a fun way to bury little timebombs; both in terms of overwriting things unintentionally, and in that you can have hundreds of instances of every mistake to fix. But it could be anything, really.

Unfortunately, instead of hiring someone to do the programming he wanted this to be his project and Unity just can't handle this game and he spends almost as much time fixing bugs as he is making new content.
This game won't tax Unity. His abilities and Fungus perhaps, but not Unity.
 

D3xter_

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Aug 4, 2017
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So there was also information that work on Rebuild continues, despite Locke's departure, although work is proceeding slowly and in the next year and a half you should not expect news.
Something has changed?
 
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