How complex it is, is irrelevant to the point. The point was that he made better, less buggy updates when he was doing monthly updates, which is true. He chose to use a poor base system for game creation over something far more appropriate like Ren'py, and continues to refuse to change it. That's his fault, period. Also, while I am not that knowledgeable in coding, there is no way in hell this game is THAT complex. At least not compared to actual full games. It is essentially a visual novel.just a short question... do you have any idea how complex coding can be? Especially when Old code becomes all tangled up? And from what i've heard, the dev of fungus was shocked at the size of the game, considering that, especially the version that SR7 is using, which is completely out of date but apparently can't be updated. He tried.
First off, people will always complain to some degree. That's true with literally anything in life. But that does not justify not fixing the game. Especially since, logically, people might complain when it's being rebuilt but would complain far less once it was finished being rebuilt. Compared to now where the game just continues to shamble along in it's current broken state where it's nearly always late and nearly always buggy.And if SR would STOP the main development of the game to rebuild it with streamlined code... this thread would go completely of the rockers and complain about the fact that he's wasting time with the rebuild, even if it'd allow him to actually keep a schedule when it's finished, rather than updating your favourite characters...
I agree that people who don't support it but complain when they don't get the content they want is dumb, but people criticizing it for SR7 not meeting his deadlines that he constantly shifts goalposts with and also constantly has buggy releases are absolutely right for doing so, whether they support it or not. I don't have to throw away money to buy a broken game to be allowed to criticize it for being broken.Now, somebody might ask: "Why do you believe SR's claims!"
Counterquestion: Why would I belief a bunch of disgruntled people who often are basically bragging "I Stopped supporting the game and download it for free!" but still feel entitled to have everything going their way and who, considering how few people actually reference the actual code of SU, have apparently no idea about how the code looks?
This is Giga-Cope at best.You ARE aware that more cross-cell content between the girls had actually been asked for? So that the cells are less of a vacuum? Especially considering characters like Supergirl and Batgirl HAVE History together? And the idea of having 2 girls strut around ALSO has been asked for independently from SR7? Like I myself had suggested it for a Vixen-Darci Crossover, because of their shared model background.
Also... considering that the artwork still has to be drawn? The only actually reusable asset would be the one that is shared between the GS and the Street...
Is it "Filler"? Maybe... Is it effin nice to have, so that the girls aren't just in a vacuum and might just not exist unless Lex is there? Especially when it fits due to their backstory, connections, powers or (contrasting) personality? Hell yeah. It also gives us some nice, hot lesbian action... so why is it bad?
Especially when the fire Sisters get their crossover stuff expanded... and then maybe Raven and SF get some etc.
just a short question... do you have any idea how complex coding can be? Especially when Old code becomes all tangled up? And from what i've heard, the dev of fungus was shocked at the size of the game, considering that, especially the version that SR7 is using, which is completely out of date but apparently can't be updated. He tried.
It's "easy" to do a lot early on with coding, because you have less issues of the code going haywire... and since there is less code overall, it's also easier to fix.
"Then he should just update all the code!"
The problem is that there isn’t any “code” to update. You can’t pull out useable files and rework them. This is all part of a Fungus project, which is just a UI tool that lets you basically flowchart together a game and export out compiled code.
Hence why the rebuild was planned but then put on ice when the coder didn't deliver and turned himself into a parriah with his behaviour.
And if SR would STOP the main development of the game to rebuild it with streamlined code... this thread would go completely of the rockers and complain about the fact that he's wasting time with the rebuild, even if it'd allow him to actually keep a schedule when it's finished, rather than updating your favourite characters...
Now, somebody might ask: "Why do you believe SR's claims!"
Counterquestion: Why would I belief a bunch of disgruntled people who often are basically bragging "I Stopped supporting the game and download it for free!" but still feel entitled to have everything going their way and who, considering how few people actually reference the actual code of SU, have apparently no idea about how the code looks?
I myself am not a coder, but i've had enough conversations with IT folks who told me how easy it is for code to become a major clusterfuck.
Considering SR had originally planned for 2 more updates this year, I assume that the October update was meant to be Audrey - WW - SW and the last update was meant to be the little bit of extra content for Barbara and Kara and H².
I'm disappointed that SW and WW didn't get their cells fully finished and I do think that it was a mistake to tease WW before he could be certain that she'd be finished. Should've teased Audrey and the cross cell stuff. Then, when WW and SW got some stuff added, but not finished, it wouldn't be the most advertised stuff that hadn't been fully implemented.
update Tala's workshop iirc.
What program did u use to get CGS ?Here a few CG from this update. Hope you like it
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So, did your complaining on F95 reach Sunsetrider yet? I'm not sure what you want me to do about it. I don't think any of us can fix your game or add additional content to it. Meanwhile, his his monthly patreon amount went up again, lol. Maybe, just maybe, you chose the wrong avenue to express your legitimate complaints?My Mans said, "I don't frequently comment on a message board entirely dedicated to porn games and comics. But when I do it's only tosuck the dick and fondle the ballsdefend the honor of a dev making 20K a month on said porn games."
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Why does completely valid criticism rustle your jimmies so much? Even if the complaints people had were completely baseless (they aren't) what do you gain from whatever the hell you wanna call what you're doing?
how in the world do you think that just doing nothing and saying nothing about these kinds of situations would lead to any improvements to the game? At a bare minimum that behavior would lead to other people potentially interested in supporting the game doing so while being unaware of the current situation with the game.
ngl that thing about the soggy sock did make me laugh tho
No, it is NOT irrelevant to the point. When he did the monthly updates it was due the fact that, back then the coding wasn't as complicated.How complex it is, is irrelevant to the point. The point was that he made better, less buggy updates when he was doing monthly updates, which is true. He chose to use a poor base system for game creation over something far more appropriate like Ren'py, and continues to refuse to change it. That's his fault, period. Also, while I am not that knowledgeable in coding, there is no way in hell this game is THAT complex. At least not compared to actual full games. It is essentially a visual novel.
People always complain to some degree. I know that. I complain a whole lot about, for example, Total War: Warhammer, and especially the direction Kislev takes in 3 (Kislev Reborn, a mod for 2, is much better imho). However, this thread has 1333 pages... and I'm fairly certain that, if the circle of shitting on the game was deleted... it'd be down to 500, +/-.First off, people will always complain to some degree. That's true with literally anything in life. But that does not justify not fixing the game. Especially since, logically, people might complain when it's being rebuilt but would complain far less once it was finished being rebuilt. Compared to now where the game just continues to shamble along in it's current broken state where it's nearly always late and nearly always buggy.
I agree that people who don't support it but complain when they don't get the content they want is dumb, but people criticizing it for SR7 not meeting his deadlines that he constantly shifts goalposts with and also constantly has buggy releases are absolutely right for doing so, whether they support it or not. I don't have to throw away money to buy a broken game to be allowed to criticize it for being broken.
Also, you do realize that people here really don't have any incentive to lie, while SR7 DOES, right? You know, since he makes money off the game. So if he can convince people that all these problems are acceptable, he retains revenue. So why are you believing the guy who has reason to lie to you again?
No, it's factual. And in anyway, for you and a good number of others who then go on about how they don't even pay for the versions that are behind a paywall because updating sucks, "coping" is anything short of "I stopped paying, pirated it, pissed on his greatparents grave and set an efigy of him on fire."This is Giga-Cope at best.
Actually like any parody games where a dev creates a patreon page thus on the "support pledging" is still gaining an income off of copyright material just like when a fanfic writer or artist "commissions" work using characters that are copyrighted..if any companies that has those copyrights ever caught wind of anything that people were making money off of their characters the lawsuits would be endless."Game is free because the minute he charges for it, he is going to have DC literally on his ass, as he is ussing characters he doesn't own. And it was the whole decission, so it is not "Pirating" it because the base concept of the LAWSUIT he had involves it being free".
Meanwhile on your side, i dub thee The 'if you don't shit on what I shit, you're clearly coping and doing copious amounts of mental gymnastics!' AllianceLol it's so easy to tell who's from the SU discord.
I dub thee......
THE SOMETHING UNLIMITED MENTAL GYMNASTICS TEAM!
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Still doesn't change that the argument i quoted wasn't true. He got a cease and desist, not a lawsuit, major difference, because of the NAME, not the setting and characters. The goal is still that the game gets released for free and depending on how it's adjusted might still get around such stuff.Actually like any parody games where a dev creates a patreon page thus on the "support pledging" is still gaining an income off of copyright material just like when a fanfic writer or artist "commissions" work using characters that are copyrighted..if any companies that has those copyrights ever caught wind of anything that people were making money off of their characters the lawsuits would be endless.
True a cease and desist being the lesser harsh outcome but I was making the point as well for various sites that do parodies involving copyrighted characters with the "apply for membership to gain access to private members only content which is still of unoriginal characters" then they get all panicked when their membership sales drop a bit. Anyways I made a post on a scene it seems that is locked for Harley Quinn which the lock button is blue so it seems like it can be unlocked...have you gotten it done?Meanwhile on your side, i dub thee The 'if you don't shit on what I shit, you're clearly coping and doing copious amounts of mental gymnastics!' Alliance
Though, I'd guess even mental gymnastics are more more gymnastics than you lot ever do... here's your picture.
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"Bluergh... what? You're not shitting on everything i shit on?! COPE! COPE! MENTAL GYMNASTICS! COPE!!! WHAT IS AY IS THE TRUTH! WHAT YOU SAY IS LIES AND COPING!!!"
Still doesn't change that the argument i quoted wasn't true. He got a cease and desist, not a lawsuit, major difference, because of the NAME, not the setting and characters. The goal is still that the game gets released for free and depending on how it's adjusted might still get around such stuff.
Also, I'd say that a lot of companies, or at least employees, do know that, but don't want to cause 1) a Streisand effect ("What? DCAU Porn? I gotta google that!") or 2) any form of lawsuit that, if the defendant is willing to put money into it, they might loose...
True a cease and desist being the lesser harsh outcome but I was making the point as well for various sites that do parodies involving copyrighted characters with the "apply for membership to gain access to private members only content which is still of unoriginal characters" then they get all panicked when their membership sales drop a bit. Anyways I made a post on a scene it seems that is locked for Harley Quinn which the lock button is blue so it seems like it can be unlocked...have you gotten it done?
For the other Harley Quinn that is summoned from not the first Harley that Mercy wants to wreck
if i had to guess: there isn't anything behind it and that it's marked like that is probably be an errorFor the other Harley Quinn that is summoned from not the first Harley that Mercy wants to wreck
I kinda thought so it's like that for SW content as well and also on my file it shows two sprites for WW nude costumes that are suppose to be locked oops.if i had to guess: there isn't anything behind it and that it's marked like that is probably be an error