Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[DerCoomer1488]

I remember seeing something about a big update in August or September. Is that not a thing anymore?

 

[Null Void Abyss]

In the new game are we going to plays as rogue or a male mc

 

[TheSavageGod]

if the MC of this new game is going to be male can we pick our skin color?

 

[Testerguy19]

I reckon there will be a new Powerslave/X-Men thread that opens up if GG is continuously active on F95. There will be 3 in total including this, SU and Bob2.

 

[Gojo/infinity]

if the MC of this new game is going to be male can we pick our skin color?

IImagine it's lex luthor isekai in x-men

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

I am not curious at all tbh, leave me out of this.

However, i am curious about bend or break 2. What's up with that?

You got me I shouldn't have used an absolute like that!

I have answered this in other posts, but when I brought forth the pivot BoB2 was discussed. My position was if we were to go and build a playbook/pipeline for these small projects, we ought to do that with a blank slate. Sure our Patrons might be upset, but we need to make decisions on what would suit us best in the long term. Designing this playbook, will only allow us to get things like BoB2 out the door in much higher quality.

Good news! It's neither. In his infinite wisdom, Gunsmoke decided to start working on another game instead. Please ignore the poor Bend or Break 2 release that was announced in 2024 in the dark corner.

I have stated previously that the announcement for BoB2 was done without the team approving it. I woke up on a Saturday to a promo, and I just wanted to announce we had began some brainstorming. Additionally we had only talked about the idea around a marketing plan for BoB2 once it progressed. That promo should never have been released, period.

It may not seem to you that we understand what we're doing, and that is fair. I really don't think many of you know what you want. But we can all express ourselves without insulting each other.

In the new game are we going to plays as rogue or a male mc

The MC is more like 4 elements trainer where you are "faceless". This gives us greater option for dialogue, and player power choices.

if the MC of this new game is going to be male can we pick our skin color?

Yes male, with our new approach to patrons shaping the project, this is 100% a possibility, especially if we see it brought up enough via Patreon feedback. Feedback from free users will come once the project is complete and released by US on platforms, not when it has been leaked.

 

[Orbukaf]

Hopefully getting BoB2 started in Nov and a release in Feb. That is unless people are requesting other things.

So, is this idea still on the table or it got discarded?

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

So, is this idea still on the table or it got discarded?

Not discarded, but our plan at that point with only a month or so of progress into Project powerslave was to see if we could get a complete game out the door in 4 months. Our scope widened (can't stop SR7 doing that lol) and he upped the quality significantly (those BG's are like 12-20hrs of work each, with night variations (SU BG's are 2-4hrs).

I think the idea I want to get across is that to you there will be hard cuts in what product is delivered, and your assumptions will be that content was worked on leading up to that release. But internally SR7 will have different workloads for either project. At a point Project Powerslaves asset creation needs will be extremely minimal, and SU's will be constant. At the right time we will do another 4 months cycle which will be your indication that we're cooking something up, and that something will be BoB2.

My long term vision is to have a small games pipeline, where we explore and innovate. And SU where we continue clawing our way through the insane amount of technical debt.

 

[Orbukaf]

For SU, it's back being worked on after content for this release comes out. I would safely anticipate an SU update around Oct, and it's focus is Themy.

I hope you guys keep your word.

Also, I think having a cycle of games' development is better for SR7. It seems to me that he may has difficult time working just on one project. I remember smoke saying that SR7 had a hard time working on the cells and he was considering to "(quit?)" it. I'm trying to be optimistic.

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

I hope you guys keep your word.

Also, I think having a cycle of games' development is better for SR7. It seems to me that he may has difficult time working just on one project. I remember smoke saying that SR7 had a hard time working on the cells and he was considering to "(quit?)" it. I'm trying to be optimistic.

I get it, users that don't support are usually skeptical, it's been like that since 2015 since I started (Akabur was the target then). People don't know how much SR7 has to hold back his art. He did a Raven for Gotham and you would think he murdered peoples mothers with the reaction. In SU he can't explore or develop. Now he's excited to try things, and play in new environments (not plugins from 2016). SU keeps our lights on, and it always will. But creativity isn't fostered by doing the same shit for 10 years. Especially when you have people who don't support you tell you you're trash every two months, and expect you to give them that opportunity for another decade, on time.

And yes I (Smoke) said SR7 nearly quit during the cells. I don't blame him either, imagine drawing a character for 200+ hrs straight, then knowing you have to do it again 4x over because of costumes. Then realizing that you have that same job for the next 3 years. I'm still surprised he didn't put the tablet down permanently at that point.

 

[Orbukaf]

I get it, users that don't support are usually skeptical, it's been like that since 2015 since I started (Akabur was the target then). People don't know how much SR7 has to hold back his art. He did a Raven for Gotham and you would think he murdered peoples mothers with the reaction. In SU he can't explore or develop. Now he's excited to try things, and play in new environments (not plugins from 2016). SU keeps our lights on, and it always will. But creativity isn't fostered by doing the same shit for 10 years. Especially when you have people who don't support you tell you you're trash every two months, and expect you to give them that opportunity for another decade, on time.

And yes I (Smoke) said SR7 nearly quit during the cells. I don't blame him either, imagine drawing a character for 200+ hrs straight, then knowing you have to do it again 4x over because of costumes. Then realizing that you have that same job for the next 3 years. I'm still surprised he didn't put the tablet down permanently at that point.

Right, I mostly agree. I want to point out that my message had two subjects.
1) hoping for an update in themyscira in oct(?). (The first sentence)
2) the subject that you talked about (smoke).
(The rest of the message)
Also the Raven cosplayer content was interesting for me, I think SR7 was satisfied with his time spent drawing and writing(?) her.

 

[SoulFoZoid]

From releases there was never a parallel release, the update of two months had been changed and now it's undetermined and another project took the release slots available. The changes of development on the project that is ongoing and during an engine change is not reassuring at all. I would consider a hiatus if things become hectic.

 

[armion82]

So do we really change the release on 2 months to 4?
Or even 6 months?

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

Right, I mostly agree. I want to point out that my message had two subjects.
1) hoping for an update in themyscira in oct(?). (The first sentence)
2) the subject that you talked about (smoke).
(The rest of the message)
Also the Raven cosplayer content was interesting for me, I think SR7 was satisfied with his time spent drawing and writing(?) her.

I'm sorry I missed that first topic. Yes Themy will be the focus of the next batch of SU content. I'm going to anticipate Oct but Powerslave might run a touch longer to get our minimal viable game out.

From releases there was never a parallel release, the update of two months had been changed and now it's undetermined and another project took the release slots available. The changes of development on the project that is ongoing and during an engine change is not reassuring at all. I would consider a hiatus if things become hectic.

Sorry we will not consider a hiatus at all. Internally things are not hectic at all, everyone on the team understands the direction, and what they need to do. As well we had parallel development going on, with two engines since 2023. I do want to point out that we never had "release slots" this year. We're working on completion style updates.

I want to point our that we understand change isn't necessarily re-assuring. These changes should have happened 5 years ago, and should be a case study in persevering when you should be pivoting.

Although there are loud voices, they don't line up with the metrics we're seeing.

So do we really change the release on 2 months to 4?
Or even 6 months?

6 months? This is our longest stretch without delivering "new" content. We still delivered a huge Android update. Armion82 at the beginning of this year we announced that we no longer were scheduling releases for the year. We're making sure that our updates are out within 2-4 months, but we can extend that if we feel the need. It's about putting out good stuff, not just stuff.

 

[sentryvoid7]

I get it, users that don't support are usually skeptical, it's been like that since 2015 since I started (Akabur was the target then). People don't know how much SR7 has to hold back his art. He did a Raven for Gotham and you would think he murdered peoples mothers with the reaction. In SU he can't explore or develop. Now he's excited to try things, and play in new environments (not plugins from 2016). SU keeps our lights on, and it always will. But creativity isn't fostered by doing the same shit for 10 years. Especially when you have people who don't support you tell you you're trash every two months, and expect you to give them that opportunity for another decade, on time.

And yes I (Smoke) said SR7 nearly quit during the cells. I don't blame him either, imagine drawing a character for 200+ hrs straight, then knowing you have to do it again 4x over because of costumes. Then realizing that you have that same job for the next 3 years. I'm still surprised he didn't put the tablet down permanently at that point.

is SU put on hold(indefinite period) or is it going to get an update this year?

 

[shzilla]

could get a complete game out the door in 4 months.

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

is SU put on hold(indefinite period) or is it going to get an update this year?

I would expect this year for sure. And SU will be a staple delivery from us.

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Wait till this guy figures out BoB was done in 2 weeks.

 

[braveart01]

I would expect this year for sure. And SU will be a staple delivery from us.



Wait till this guy figures out BoB was done in 2 weeks.

Done in two weeks. All the more reason why it should be easy to release a complete BOB2 in 4 months with bigger team? Why didn't you do it and get it out of the way? Should be simple for you, as you say.

 

[armion82]

I'm sorry I missed that first topic. Yes Themy will be the focus of the next batch of SU content. I'm going to anticipate Oct but Powerslave might run a touch longer to get our minimal viable game out.



Sorry we will not consider a hiatus at all. Internally things are not hectic at all, everyone on the team understands the direction, and what they need to do. As well we had parallel development going on, with two engines since 2023. I do want to point out that we never had "release slots" this year. We're working on completion style updates.

I want to point our that we understand change isn't necessarily re-assuring. These changes should have happened 5 years ago, and should be a case study in persevering when you should be pivoting.

Although there are loud voices, they don't line up with the metrics we're seeing.



6 months? This is our longest stretch without delivering "new" content. We still delivered a huge Android update. Armion82 at the beginning of this year we announced that we no longer were scheduling releases for the year. We're making sure that our updates are out within 2-4 months, but we can extend that if we feel the need. It's about putting out good stuff, not just stuff.

I hope,we finally will get what was promised for Themyscira years ago.
It's way too much time since the last meaningful update for the island.

 

[The French Tickler]

Whatever. Wake me up when the mutant bitches arrive.