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Right, I mostly agree. I want to point out that my message had two subjects.
1) hoping for an update in themyscira in oct(?). (The first sentence)
2) the subject that you talked about (smoke).
(The rest of the message)
Also the Raven cosplayer content was interesting for me, I think SR7 was satisfied with his time spent drawing and writing(?) her.
I'm sorry I missed that first topic. Yes Themy will be the focus of the next batch of SU content. I'm going to anticipate Oct but Powerslave might run a touch longer to get our minimal viable game out.

From releases there was never a parallel release, the update of two months had been changed and now it's undetermined and another project took the release slots available. The changes of development on the project that is ongoing and during an engine change is not reassuring at all. I would consider a hiatus if things become hectic.
Sorry we will not consider a hiatus at all. Internally things are not hectic at all, everyone on the team understands the direction, and what they need to do. As well we had parallel development going on, with two engines since 2023. I do want to point out that we never had "release slots" this year. We're working on completion style updates.

I want to point our that we understand change isn't necessarily re-assuring. These changes should have happened 5 years ago, and should be a case study in persevering when you should be pivoting.

Although there are loud voices, they don't line up with the metrics we're seeing.

So do we really change the release on 2 months to 4?
Or even 6 months?
6 months? This is our longest stretch without delivering "new" content. We still delivered a huge Android update. Armion82 at the beginning of this year we announced that we no longer were scheduling releases for the year. We're making sure that our updates are out within 2-4 months, but we can extend that if we feel the need. It's about putting out good stuff, not just stuff.
 
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I get it, users that don't support are usually skeptical, it's been like that since 2015 since I started (Akabur was the target then). People don't know how much SR7 has to hold back his art. He did a Raven for Gotham and you would think he murdered peoples mothers with the reaction. In SU he can't explore or develop. Now he's excited to try things, and play in new environments (not plugins from 2016). SU keeps our lights on, and it always will. But creativity isn't fostered by doing the same shit for 10 years. Especially when you have people who don't support you tell you you're trash every two months, and expect you to give them that opportunity for another decade, on time.

And yes I (Smoke) said SR7 nearly quit during the cells. I don't blame him either, imagine drawing a character for 200+ hrs straight, then knowing you have to do it again 4x over because of costumes. Then realizing that you have that same job for the next 3 years. I'm still surprised he didn't put the tablet down permanently at that point.
is SU put on hold(indefinite period) or is it going to get an update this year?
 

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I would expect this year for sure. And SU will be a staple delivery from us.



Wait till this guy figures out BoB was done in 2 weeks.
Done in two weeks. All the more reason why it should be easy to release a complete BOB2 in 4 months with bigger team? Why didn't you do it and get it out of the way? Should be simple for you, as you say.
 
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I'm sorry I missed that first topic. Yes Themy will be the focus of the next batch of SU content. I'm going to anticipate Oct but Powerslave might run a touch longer to get our minimal viable game out.



Sorry we will not consider a hiatus at all. Internally things are not hectic at all, everyone on the team understands the direction, and what they need to do. As well we had parallel development going on, with two engines since 2023. I do want to point out that we never had "release slots" this year. We're working on completion style updates.

I want to point our that we understand change isn't necessarily re-assuring. These changes should have happened 5 years ago, and should be a case study in persevering when you should be pivoting.

Although there are loud voices, they don't line up with the metrics we're seeing.



6 months? This is our longest stretch without delivering "new" content. We still delivered a huge Android update. Armion82 at the beginning of this year we announced that we no longer were scheduling releases for the year. We're making sure that our updates are out within 2-4 months, but we can extend that if we feel the need. It's about putting out good stuff, not just stuff.
I hope,we finally will get what was promised for Themyscira years ago.
It's way too much time since the last meaningful update for the island.
 

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Done in two weeks. All the more reason why it should be easy to release a complete BOB2 in 4 months with bigger team? Why didn't you do it and get it out of the way? Should be simple for you, as you say.
I have commented on this 2x already here. But here is 3x, when I decided to bring up the idea of pivoting, I came forth with Powerslave. We discussed doing BoB2 but I felt it would be best if we were to build a playbook to do these small games, we do so with a fresh start. BoB2 already had designs, pallets, initial brainstorming done. If we picked up where we left off, I felt we could introduce mistakes from years past, and integrate them in a new idea. As well if we took out the previous work, we would get a good idea on if our idea was feasible from a time stand point. In the end a fresh start was in our opinion the best idea (I'm sure this thread will disagree).

I hope,we finally will get what was promised for Themyscira years ago.
It's way too much time since the last meaningful update for the island.
We talked about Themy a week or two ago, and I mentioned some wild assumptions from F95 on assumed content needs (there is a list floating around). I do agree Themy needs more content, but let's not go creating some insane asset lists, and unreal expectations. Let's get Themy in a good spot so we can move on and tackle other things in SU.
 
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Well.. it looks like I missed alot, since I last been here. A Gotham update, Something unlimited put on hold, and a new X-men game announced from the same dev, and still no new Blackfire and Starfire content (I just added that last one myself) did I miss anything? Maybe I should just come back in a few months hopeful for another update lol :LOL:
 

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Hmph... Not sure what to think of the new project. At the same time I am excited about something new outside of SU (kind of hoped marvel would be hit as well and not just DC) but how the projects get affected by this shift of focus is my main curiosity right now. And well... There's also the Goth Rogue...already 2 games have her with the 3rd (TNH) having it's own spin of Goth Rogue... Frankly unsure if I am interested in a 4th Goth Rogue . classic 90s Rogue would be so much better to change things around, otherwise people will just treat it as a milking tactic since other games already doing it...
That's at least my opinion. Figured I would point it out since sr7 already drew classic Rogue before
 
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Hmph... Not sure what to think of the new project. At the same time I am excited about something new outside of SU (kind of hoped marvel would be hit as well and not just DC) but how the projects get affected by this shift of focus is my main curiosity right now. And well... There's also the Goth Rogue...already 2 games have her with the 3rd (TNH) having it's own spin of Goth Rogue... Frankly unsure if I am interested in a 4th Goth Rogue . classic 90s Rogue would be so much better to change things around, otherwise people will just treat it as a milking tactic since other games already doing it...
That's at least my opinion. Figured I would point it out since sr7 already drew classic Rogue before
Man I thought I had you converted to a full fledged simp for a second Conrad, but then you went full F95 and said using one of two very popular styles will be "milking". I'm just messing around, but honestly I think goth Rogue and her popularity just shows the strength of the design.

so is the renpy port onhold or what?
No it's still being worked on, Henshin has a very full plate now, and we need to manage his workload.

And then you realized you can make infinite amount more money by not finishing the game at all.
I mean we could always finish it and start another project and make infinite money. Or is that just not a possibility?
 

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I mean we could always finish it and start another project and make infinite money. Or is that just not a possibility?



Yeah that's why you still haven't finished SU. That's why you moved update cycle from 1 month to 2 months, then to 3, 4 months and in the latest genius move you abolished fixed update cycles all together, yet you still charge the same money, OH WAIT you actually added Tiers and charge more money.

What's your goal here with this act? You know it's an act, I know it, everyone else knows it. You are not on your Discord with only simps after you banned all the critics.
 

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Man, the discourse on this game is wild. People giving massive lists of more things they want in the game in one breath and then also insisting that it's stupid this game is getting more updates at all. Like, it's a porn game, what does "finishing" it entail other than "not getting more porn"? Also like... this game is on f95 for free (not with the creator's permission, but you're all here, aren't you?).
 

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Yeah that's why you still haven't finished SU. That's why you moved update cycle from 1 month to 2 months, then to 3, 4 months and in the latest genius move you abolished fixed update cycles all together, yet you still charge the same money, OH WAIT you actually added Tiers and charge more money.

What's your goal here with this act? You know it's an act, I know it, everyone else knows it. You are not on your Discord with only simps after you banned all the critics.
Shzilla, we haven't updated our tiers and charge more money. We have a $1.00 tier, and have since 2015. We haven't updated our rewards since 2016 either.

Honestly I don't get these points, you're making claims against the person who founded this stuff. It's just weird to come here and argue a point like I'm charging more money, when in fact due to inflation there is more value. And we just added more rewards with Powerslave.

Then you claim I ban critics from discord..I didn't even ban some F95 user who claimed we used AI on the last Raven from Gotham. Something that would get you banned here.

Plus you're calling what I'm doing here an act? It's my job, not an act, and we have people we pay who rely on us doing well enough so they get paid as well.

Man, the discourse on this game is wild. People giving massive lists of more things they want in the game in one breath and then also insisting that it's stupid this game is getting more updates at all. Like, it's a porn game, what does "finishing" it entail other than "not getting more porn"? Also like... this game is on f95 for free (not with the creator's permission, but you're all here, aren't you?).
We have a $1.00 tier.... There are people here who have played 45+ updates and demand content, but haven't even given $1.00. That $1.00 would amount to $0.02 per update, but they refuse to support.
 

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Hi, can anyone know what is the latest working version for the intel Macs, I try 2.4.7, 2.4.5 both don't open on my Mac.
 

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honestly I think goth Rogue and her popularity just shows the strength of the design.
Well sure, but tbf, her 90s, or rather her actual look is better. No hate for Evo, but while Goth is cool, her 90s version is the one most people know her by, and sadly appears the least in porn
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at least 97 revived her on rule34 for a short while
 
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I'd probably say go with Evo Rogue, but maybe have something happen later that causes the Rogue from the 90's animated series to come over, like, say, with the second Harley in SU? Maybe in the game she could be handled as being older and more experienced than Evo Rogue but still as inexperienced about sex. Could give a fun contrast esp if they interact and by the time they do Evo Rogue is more experienced in that.
 
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