Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[armion82]

If you think its 2 months because you count from 6 to 6, then you need to ask yourself: if its exact 2 months, why dont they release builds on the 31th of the corresponding month of the cycle? why does it need to be dragged 1 week into the next month?
For example, this time they extend their "release window" by another 4 days, that i assume you think "dont add up"
They manipulate their release dates into compromising the next month for a reason, and its because that way its not "2 months of payment" due to how Patreon charges (they are NOT on a per-release Payment, like some other devs), otherwise, and i repeat, if an "ammount of days" was the issue, they could just release on the 31th, specially after they have vacations and breaks and all that bullshit, when they can start a cycle anew




Its called being a blind fanboy (not a fan), and it applies on all kinds of stuffs, games, artists, sports, etc

Check the facts before you are saying something stupid next time.
If you are a patron you can easy check each release day for the game for last 4 years.
Then you will see that nothing from what you say is truth.The extra days never add up to free month for them,never.

I agree. But I think the priority is to work on the content of the main heroines in the game (Black Cannary and Huntress), But that's up to them. Other characters that you can't put in the cells are Zatanna and Hawkgirl. So I hope they are already working on these characters in that time frame, it would be great to see them in the next updates. Of course, I also want to see the others you mentioned, but we know Sunsetriders7, they will not give content all at once. By the end of the year some 6/8 characters may be complete (or more), let's keep hope.

Huntress,Black Canary,Zatanna and Hawkgirl.
Each one probably will need 3 or 4 updates to be done completely.After all they have so many to be added in MB and the cells.
Maybe for the update in April we can get something like this.

-Huntress/cell content including dance and strip/.
-Black Canary/cell content including dance and strip/.
-Lois/completed-sex,anal,leash,nickname etc/
-Mercy/completed-sex,anal,maybe she should not have leash scene/
-Poison Ivy/completed/
-Stargirl/MB done/

 

[Punkreas]

Think about slut costumes for Zatanna, Huntress, Canary...gives me a insta hard-on lol, take the time that need, i really don't mind the waiting, 2020 looks really promissing

 

[cyan101]

Translation: Hey guys i know we had four months to do this, but we dont understand time management so we need to rush completion now. Start looking forward to half the content not working!

they took time off and worked on other games, they didnt spend 4 months working on this. yes their time management and being on time are elon-musk level, but they havent been working on this for 4 months

 

[nofatchicks]

as little as i like to make excuses for them it is important to remember some fundamental truths:

you cannot rush art
you cannot rush inspiration

this game is both

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

I am about to give you very blunt and straight feedback.

The above statement is a perfect example of why others and I have dabbed on you here. Is that possible? Sure. Is that transparent? Not in the least. I'm a developer too. I know there are times when shit happens. I also know I can just say that, and with no other information there is no way to disprove it. Giving more specific information about what is going on would go a long way toward gaining goodwill and trust. There are certainly other developers following the thread and subscribed to your Patreon. If the delays are legitimate, you will have people that understand what is going on backing you up on the situation being unfortunate but unavoidable. That is infinitely preferable to natural conclusion of being lazy, incompetent, intentionally providing as little content as possible to maintain the monthly donations, etc.

The general tone of the post in another issue. It reads high on defensiveness and low on responsibility. This isn't some kind of "I didn't fuck that intern, it depends on what your definition of the word is is" PR bullshit. I have no problem with people being full of themselves when they are as good as they think they are. As the post you quoted demonstrates, your track record over the last two years has not only been questionable (being generous there), but is unquestionably trending downward. "Hey guys you got some sketches and assets that we made anyway in the process of making the game and took a few minutes to throw together, plus the game no one wanted" is not an endearing response in this situation.

I support several artists and cosplay thots on Patreon, but I do not support you despite having previously expressed a willingness to do so. Do you know why? Because they give me tiddies on time. The month is spent openly promoting what I will receive by having my card charged at the beginning of the next month, they make me want it, then deliver it when promised. Every single time. Your current release plan is the equivalent of "Gee guys, I dunno, I'll dress up in whatever I want and post it when I get enough money for a new round tuit. In like two months or so. Maybe. You know, if I don't lose me USB cable or something. Tee hee." Would I give that thot money? Answer: fuck no.

When I first stumbled upon the game I didn't understand the criticism that was thrown your way. The art was phenomenal (save the constant ctrl+C ctrl+V action on the nipples; don't even try to tell me they are the least bit different from each other). Facially the characters look exactly like they do in DCAU or Young Justice. The story was appropriate for a porn game. The grindy gameplay was simple, but brought back fond memories of Newgrounds games like Love Hina Dating Sim and Ganguro Girls from 15-18 years ago. After following the game for a few years I now get it completely. All trust is gone and it is upon you to reestablish it.

Genuinely take it under advisement or ignore it all at your discretion. Never let it be said that I bant for the sake of banting. Every barb originates from something I would like to see improve and would be open to financially supporting.

First off thanks for taking the time to "bant". As a developer yourself you would understand the complexities on trying to deliver a NEW update and product every 2 months. As well as a developer yourself you would easily be able to figure out how delaying a build does not provide us with extra money (we get money every month, even on months we don't release anything).

Let me break it down for you (well for others mostly).

We get more support following a build than before, in fact we get much more support if we release a build on the end of the month then the beginning of the next. Why? well we have an extra week of the new build out there that brings in more support (you following?)

So our biggest support months are the month following a build! We're on upfront so after a build is released those numbers grow.

Nov release New / Increase / Deleted / Decreased / Total

Our

slowest month, is actually the release month! We get the highest level of pledges deleted, lowest amount of new pledges. Why? Well because a new build has been out for a month now! People will gladly skip a month in order to grab the build the next day. But due to Bonus packs being released this month we do see the highest amount of pledge increases (this offsets the loss in $5.00 subs for the month) but it flucuates with what character is in the Bonus pack.

Dec Stats New / Increase / Deleted / Decreased / Total



So how would we actually "maintain' monthly donations. Simply we would release in the middle of the month like every other dev (maybe even you do this). We would delay the bug fix to fall on the next month (in the beginning, like the majority of other devs) in order to push the build out to more people again (Following?). This scheme would allow us to capitalize on 2 weeks of post build upfront billing, then allow us to continue they hype with a bug fix the following month. Our slow month would only consist of 2 weeks.

But guess what we do? We release at the end of the month or the first week following. Allowing people to skip all of the release month (remember when I told you about the deleted pledges and not as many new pledges?). and pledge up again when the build releases.

I do realize patron is a shit platform for this type of stuff (god we have been over this like 10k x in the last 5 years remember Breeding Season prime example why). But not until mid last year has another viable option opened up for developers, that being Steam. We want to finish SU, and getting much closer to that goal this year is the objective. Then we can move towards releasing games full and complete and get off this nightmarish schedule.

 

[MusicVideoGuy]

I ignore list the savefile begging cockroaches here, but never the white knights because it's fun to check in periodically on their evolution. Like back in biology class swabbing the inside your cheek then keeping tabs on what was growing on the agar in the petri dish.

 

[penelo1606]

being on time are elon-musk level

Every Space X program are 1 or 2 years late. It's still impressive what Elon Musk did but he's never on time.

 

[Kojj4]

Check the facts before you are saying something stupid next time.
If you are a patron you can easy check each release day for the game for last 4 years.
Then you will see that nothing from what you say is truth.The extra days never add up to free month for them,never.

Huntress,Black Canary,Zatanna and Hawkgirl.
Each one probably will need 3 or 4 updates to be done completely.After all they have so many to be added in MB and the cells.
Maybe for the update in April we can get something like this.

-Huntress/cell content including dance and strip/.
-Black Canary/cell content including dance and strip/.
-Lois/completed-sex,anal,leash,nickname etc/
-Mercy/completed-sex,anal,maybe she should not have leash scene/
-Poison Ivy/completed/
-Stargirl/MB done/

I thought the sunsetriders7 would make Black Canary and Huntress complete. But why do I think so? it doesn't make sense to have two main characters to choose and not have the same batgirl content. So, instead of bringing a complete character and a new character, just focus on these two characters. The content of Zatanna, WonderWoman and Hawkgirl would be next. I know the waiting list is huge, and I think last year they made a little mess in the organization of the game bringing those new characters (Jinx, Rose, Maxima etc) of course it's not bad, but I always wanted to get the characters that were already there.
As you mentioned, I agree. But there are some things that need to be fixed.

- Lois in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Harley in cell = Dance / Strip / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal (maybe HJ?)
- Mercy in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Stargirl = MB done but not exhibitionism || in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Huntres in cell = No content
- Zatanna in cell = No content
- Black Cannary in cell = No content
- Wonder Woman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) / Lasso || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Hawkgirl in cell = No content
- Starfire in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Blackfire in cell = Dance / Strip / Spank || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Galatea in cell = Dance / Strip / Massage || Need = HJ/ BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Princess Audrey in cell = Dance / Spank / Strip || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- SuperWoman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)

So, depending on the rhythm they're doing maybe the contents are ready in 3 years or more. I did not quote the MB of the exhibitionism scenes. About the fetishes, this varies between spank, massage and etc. (yeah, I like the spank content)
Therefore, I intend to be hopeful and I know the job will be fine, but it will take time, I know. About what I said about Jinx, Rose and Maxima, I like cell contents, and I think it's more organized, and I haven't even talked about Talia and Lady Shiva. (as these characters are in one location, I think it's great)
Nicknames and Leash I thought it totally useless. But why? well, you just have to leave the character naked and ask to dance, I know that the arts are different so whatever. Let's keep hope and see if everything will go well.

 

[armion82]

I thought the sunsetriders7 would make Black Canary and Huntress complete. But why do I think so? it doesn't make sense to have two main characters to choose and not have the same batgirl content. So, instead of bringing a complete character and a new character, just focus on these two characters. The content of Zatanna, WonderWoman and Hawkgirl would be next. I know the waiting list is huge, and I think last year they made a little mess in the organization of the game bringing those new characters (Jinx, Rose, Maxima etc) of course it's not bad, but I always wanted to get the characters that were already there.
As you mentioned, I agree. But there are some things that need to be fixed.

- Lois in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Harley in cell = Dance / Strip / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal (maybe HJ?)
- Mercy in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Stargirl = MB done but not exhibitionism || in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Huntres in cell = No content
- Zatanna in cell = No content
- Black Cannary in cell = No content
- Wonder Woman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) / Lasso || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Hawkgirl in cell = No content
- Starfire in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Blackfire in cell = Dance / Strip / Spank || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Galatea in cell = Dance / Strip / Massage || Need = HJ/ BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Princess Audrey in cell = Dance / Spank / Strip || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- SuperWoman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)

So, depending on the rhythm they're doing maybe the contents are ready in 3 years or more. I did not quote the MB of the exhibitionism scenes. About the fetishes, this varies between spank, massage and etc. (yeah, I like the spank content)
Therefore, I intend to be hopeful and I know the job will be fine, but it will take time, I know. About what I said about Jinx, Rose and Maxima, I like cell contents, and I think it's more organized, and I haven't even talked about Talia and Lady Shiva. (as these characters are in one location, I think it's great)
Nicknames and Leash I thought it totally useless. But why? well, you just have to leave the character naked and ask to dance, I know that the arts are different so whatever. Let's keep hope and see if everything will go well.

Even with the old roadmap there was no way to get all content for one of the 4 characters/Huntress,Black Canary,Zatanna and Hawkgirl/in just 1 update.
They probably will work on a bigger number of characters with smaller number of scenes for each.Dont'forget that even with the updates from 2019,they usually are releasing content for 3 characters at least.
With the new shedule I can see each update having content for 6 superheroines/henchwomen/supervillainess total.
Big number of them are almost completed-the henchwomen,some that we can hire like Poison Ivy and Cheetah,Lois,Audrey,Lady Shiva,Killer Frost etc.
Also they probably will wait for the rebuild to be ready,in order to finish Wonder Woman/Superwoman and Starfire/Blackfire.
Of course that won't stop them to give us the MB content for WW and SF before the rebuild.

 

[Ixiah]

you cannot rush art
you cannot rush inspiration

And we can take your Money elsewhere.
Let face it, the Update, when it comes, will be the same dripfeed that it always has been and will in no case justify the 4, or 2, Months waiting time.
A lot of the People complaining here arent angry, they are frustrated that the Game gets run into the Ground.
So they made the Updates Bi-Monthly to get more time for Bugfixes and Content.
And now we get almost the same ammount of Content, with some exceptions, than we got every Month.
For me, it almost feels like a minature Version of EA:
They make a lot of Money, but not much of it is spend on maintaining their Games with Content.
What exactly needs to be done that warrants that ammount of Content in a 2 Month Timeframe ?
The Game today has become almost nothing but a Visual Novel, with some RNG if certain Events happpen thrown in to stretch the Playtime.
Which leaves the Art.
He wants to do the Art alone ?
Fine, but with 15K every Month, you think he could spend Money to pay someone to colorize, or even turn Sketches over to someone who can finish them.
Or at least a secondary Coder....
And inspiration ?
Aside from the Art, what is left ?
Certainly not engaging gameplay.
So where does all the Money go ?
Their other Game, also sparsley Updated.
Lets think about that for a second, your Team is so small that you change from 1 Month to 2 Months update because the stress was to big to deliver Conent.....
So yeah, you might think People who dont pay dont get to complain, but our Complains are the Reason why we dont Pay and with every meager Update, that notion gets reinforced.

 

[nofatchicks]

And we can take your Money elsewhere.
Let face it, the Update, when it comes, will be the same dripfeed that it always has been and will in no case justify the 4, or 2, Months waiting time.
A lot of the People complaining here arent angry, they are frustrated that the Game gets run into the Ground.
So they made the Updates Bi-Monthly to get more time for Bugfixes and Content.
And now we get almost the same ammount of Content, with some exceptions, than we got every Month.
For me, it almost feels like a minature Version of EA:
They make a lot of Money, but not much of it is spend on maintaining their Games with Content.
What exactly needs to be done that warrants that ammount of Content in a 2 Month Timeframe ?
The Game today has become almost nothing but a Visual Novel, with some RNG if certain Events happpen thrown in to stretch the Playtime.
Which leaves the Art.
He wants to do the Art alone ?
Fine, but with 15K every Month, you think he could spend Money to pay someone to colorize, or even turn Sketches over to someone who can finish them.
Or at least a secondary Coder....
And inspiration ?
Aside from the Art, what is left ?
Certainly not engaging gameplay.
So where does all the Money go ?
Their other Game, also sparsley Updated.
Lets think about that for a second, your Team is so small that you change from 1 Month to 2 Months update because the stress was to big to deliver Conent.....
So yeah, you might think People who dont pay dont get to complain, but our Complains are the Reason why we dont Pay and with every meager Update, that notion gets reinforced.

it doesn't seem like english is your first language so i'll leave you alone on that front

but none of what you said correlates to something i said

i urge you to not allow something outside your control affect your emotional state

 

[IAmRatchet]

I paid in February expecting a release, and got chewed out in the Patreon Discord for daring to criticize the promise of a release date only to get that taken away and thrown to next month, essentially making my payment worthless. (There was no bonus pack either)

Call me dumb for assuming they’d be on time, but if that’s even a possibility, and they’re making 15K a month to split between three people anyway, they should just set the payments for full releases only.

 

[Krugger]

A few months ago I made the same complaint. You didn't understand and made fun of it. I think the art of this game is incredible, but in relation to gameplay, that's all the guy up there said. I had said that the game was very repetitive, you are always doing the same thing and nothing changes just the dialogues. It was 5 years working on this game, and we will confess that there is a lot of content but the gameplay needs to be adjusted. But let's stay out of this and talk about the content. The guy up there mentioned that the game brings a complete character and a new character. If you start adding a lot of characters, the chronological time will only increase and there you will have more time and more excuse to argue. I'm not a patreon, so I don't have much to complain about, but who is a patreon and is disappointed is another side of the story. I will not play this again, as it is easier to search for CGs which is much faster and more practical. Since the gameplay of this game does not give you any emotion.

 

[armion82]

A few months ago I made the same complaint. You didn't understand and made fun of it. I think the art of this game is incredible, but in relation to gameplay, that's all the guy up there said. I had said that the game was very repetitive, you are always doing the same thing and nothing changes just the dialogues. It was 5 years working on this game, and we will confess that there is a lot of content but the gameplay needs to be adjusted. But let's stay out of this and talk about the content. The guy up there mentioned that the game brings a complete character and a new character. If you start adding a lot of characters, the chronological time will only increase and there you will have more time and more excuse to argue. I'm not a patreon, so I don't have much to complain about, but who is a patreon and is disappointed is another side of the story. I will not play this again, as it is easier to search for CGs which is much faster and more practical. Since the gameplay of this game does not give you any emotion.

You can easily play only the last update for each year.You definitely sound like way more patient than 90% here

is the work of 4 month of development.

Not 4 months.
January is the vacation month like every year so far since 2015.
Also december was the release of BoB 2.I know most don't consider it an update,but that don't come out without work.

 

[ManlyManperorOfMankind]

First off thanks for taking the time to "bant". As a developer yourself you would understand the complexities on trying to deliver a NEW update and product every 2 months. As well as a developer yourself you would easily be able to figure out how delaying a build does not provide us with extra money (we get money every month, even on months we don't release anything).

Let me break it down for you (well for others mostly).

We get more support following a build than before, in fact we get much more support if we release a build on the end of the month then the beginning of the next. Why? well we have an extra week of the new build out there that brings in more support (you following?)

So our biggest support months are the month following a build! We're on upfront so after a build is released those numbers grow.

Nov release New / Increase / Deleted / Decreased / Total

View attachment 578725 Our

slowest month, is actually the release month! We get the highest level of pledges deleted, lowest amount of new pledges. Why? Well because a new build has been out for a month now! People will gladly skip a month in order to grab the build the next day. But due to Bonus packs being released this month we do see the highest amount of pledge increases (this offsets the loss in $5.00 subs for the month) but it flucuates with what character is in the Bonus pack.

Dec Stats New / Increase / Deleted / Decreased / Total
View attachment 578726


So how would we actually "maintain' monthly donations. Simply we would release in the middle of the month like every other dev (maybe even you do this). We would delay the bug fix to fall on the next month (in the beginning, like the majority of other devs) in order to push the build out to more people again (Following?). This scheme would allow us to capitalize on 2 weeks of post build upfront billing, then allow us to continue they hype with a bug fix the following month. Our slow month would only consist of 2 weeks.

But guess what we do? We release at the end of the month or the first week following. Allowing people to skip all of the release month (remember when I told you about the deleted pledges and not as many new pledges?). and pledge up again when the build releases.

I do realize patron is a shit platform for this type of stuff (god we have been over this like 10k x in the last 5 years remember Breeding Season prime example why). But not until mid last year has another viable option opened up for developers, that being Steam. We want to finish SU, and getting much closer to that goal this year is the objective. Then we can move towards releasing games full and complete and get off this nightmarish schedule.

And how does the promised 2 month release timer fit into this ?
If you are talking about development for existing characters most parts like expressions and poses are already done. The most things added were costumes (which were great), backrounds and text.
Codeing can of course be a problem, and I believe you guys when u say that you work on this game, but I dont think the content which you will put out is the work of 4 month of development. I guess it will be the same quantity and stuff we got in the latest updates. I hope I m wrong .
Still its a great game and heading in the right direction. I would like to see more plots and new thing, like including a plot with the justice league and IDK fight them or they need lex help or get suspicious. Right now the game seems to be pretty stale, you know we keep hearing all the time that they are there but they dont appear or have a prupose,
Give choices in the game like to battle or infiltrate the justice league, build their trust. You could use the daytime for this, which is underused and in the evening you break the heroes like it used to be. The heroes would get more depth if we meet them in the daytime. Lex should make them think he has changed by setting up a crisis and solving it or sth. There are so much unused possebilitys.

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

I paid in February expecting a release, and got chewed out in the Patreon Discord for daring to criticize the promise of a release date only to get that taken away and thrown to next month, essentially making my payment worthless. (There was no bonus pack either)

Call me dumb for assuming they’d be on time, but if that’s even a possibility, and they’re making 15K a month to split between three people anyway, they should just set the payments for full releases only.

Message us on Patreon we will gladly refund you the month!

 

[IAmRatchet]

Message us on Patreon we will gladly refund you the month!

I don’t need the money back, just better consistency in release dates. I understand difficulties behind the scenes, but your track record is nothing to write home about. Consider it a donation, and I’ve learned my lesson in paying with the expectation of release instead of just paying for a product when it’s out.

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

I don’t need the money back, just better consistency in release dates. I understand difficulties behind the scenes, but your track record is nothing to write home about. Consider it a donation, and I’ve learned my lesson in paying with the expectation of release instead of just paying for a product when it’s out.

This is why he have our release window and releases set up this way. Allows you to still follow and pledge when you want. Thanks for the pledge.

 

[quake123]

This is why he have our release window and releases set up this way. Allows you to still follow and pledge when you want. Thanks for the pledge.

But you'll need to look at it from the backers side the last update was more than 4 months ago. Yeah we get it a lot happened since then but an update once every 2 months helps show consistency and willingness to continue the project. Content being released is currently not adding new scenes but completing old ones so this should be very much possible. Show that consistency and watch the numbers grow don't and you could lose valuable resources because of it.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

i like shittin' on lazy devs as much as the next guy but the pretentious im-a-dev-too stuff is gettin' old