get mad over someone asking a question your just as pathetic as all of us
Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]
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The person asked for either a way to reach Nanda Parbat's orgy scene or a recording thereof. A fully unlocked safe file of the game fits within the parameters of the second part of that question.
As for the "find a better game", eh, maybe that was uncalled for but about 90 percent of this thread currently is shitting on the makers of SU so idk
Part of the problem is there isn't a "better game", not really. I haven't got around to playing it yet but from what I've read in this thread and some others, Doomination is the closest competitor by some margin. That immediately goes poorly for the people who want DC characters. Even without the Marvel Vs DC war that I take no interest in since I like both, there are just more DC characters I like over Marvel and I'm sure that's true for many of us but going beyond that, SU uses an art style that is very nostalgic for a lot of fans whereas Doom has an art style that is... there. Not to insult HardCorn but the style just doesn't do it for me like the Timmverse style does. I also find Doom to be a much more cringeworthy character than Lex Luther but that might be a 'me issue' again.
I'm not entirely sure of who's doing what within GSG at this point but it sounds like SR7 is doing the bulk of things and ultimately serving as project lead. The more recent commentary about AI usage aside, most of us seem to agree he's a good artist and mostly seems good with concept writing, even if he sucks at finishing at something. This tells me he'd likely be better in an Art Director role with someone else as project lead, someone with a firmer hand who will push for deadlines.
Unless I'm missing something, this is a niche product with no true competition and people want to see better out of something that has started so well, that typically leads to vitriol and people spitting their dummies like we've been seeing here. If there was something else that catered to what this does, people wouldn't be sitting in this thread fuming about a lack of updates and such. The competition might also lead to more out of SU but it's hard to say since none of us really know if SR7 really is lazy, resting on his laurels or if working on the same project for so long has left him burnt out. SU is clearly a money-maker so it'd be dumb to abandon it but needing to keep working on such a project can have terrible effects on an artist.
For me personally, I'd love to know why they insist on continuing with Unity/Fungus if they're already transitioning to RenPy. Surely it'd be less effort to convert everything and re-release on RenPy instead of fighting with the dinosaur, right? And it's not like they don't have the assets, either monetary or the art and writing they've already made, but that one's my biggest grudge due to how many typos/errors I keep finding in the writing and wish it was possible for that stuff to get edited.
PS: Another fucking 'essay'. I really need to get better at this minimal-words discourse everyone uses on the internet.
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TheSinful
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At least I'm not stuck being the optimistic one
Calling the developer lazy, a clown and accusing them of AI usage, not putting in any effort and knowingly milking funds from supporters aren't "mild criticism", they're personal attacks. Whether any or all of the above are justified is a very different matter, but your attempt at a censorship deflection despite not having been personally accused of doing so speaks to a persecution complex or perhaps a sense of guilt for wrongdoing. Either way, people are still going to be in here asking when the next update is coming or complaining about the game or the developer because they've got nothing better to do or nowhere else to go, despite Mishanya1004's claim that people have reverse-engineered the game and made a better product. If that were true, people would be playing that instead of bitching in here.
Who are you to the devs? Because you sure have been white knighting their continued and repeated behaviors since this game was released 10ish years ago. You seem very defensive of them and are trying to tone police people's conversations on a porn pirating message site. Discussing productivity, AI usage, perceived and/or deceptive strategic delays for subscription renewals (a common issue with amateur porn game devs ) are all valid points of discussion and critique.
Also if being called a clown is offensive then we all need to have much bigger concerns for humanity
Absolutely nobody. I don't know them and am not even in their Discord, I'm pretty sure they booted me, in fact. And your claims of my behaviour for 10 years are more than a little bold considering I've only been in this thread since September 2024 and only posted my first comment at the end of February this year. That can easily be verified on my profile, if you'd like. I'll even save you some time, it's on page 3. I'm merely playing devil's advocate where I feel like it and calling out bullshit when needed. This supposed "mild criticism" was left behind some time ago and has often devolved into hate posting which is just as tiresome as the constant requests for the update release, the latter of which is actual laziness since it doesn't take scrolling through as much as a page or two to see a lack of news or progress and the search button is right. there. The other side of the coin that is your point of it being a porn pirating site is that some of the messages on here start sounding more than a little deranged, as if anyone here is owed anything. It's excessive.
Beyond that, I'm sharing insight. This belief that genai is as simple as "just slap a couple words in a generator" is outright false, for example. Yes, you can get a serviceable image by doing that, barely, but if you need even 2 images to work cohesively for a scene, you'd be at it for hours for a single image, generating or editing over and over again. Unless SR7 has sprained his wrist and can't draw for several weeks or months, it makes no sense to use it for how scenes work in SU. As for your other points, I don't disagree, they're valid points worth discussing and critiquing, I'm only putting forward potential scenarios. I absolutely have my problems with the game and the way it's being managed, you seem to have missed the times I've voiced them such as here, here and here but I don't bother as much since pretty much everyone else has got the issues I'd have to voice covered quite loudly already.
And no, calling someone a clown isn't particularly offensive, but that's not the point. It's still an insult and to hide behind this excuse of "voicing critique" is disingenuous. Hell, if you want to call someone a lying cunt, go for it, you're perfectly entitled to insult someone even if it is tiring to be reading constantly, just don't act the coward and say it's just critique when it's not. We can all be civil here and there's absolutely no value in throwing insults around, but the fact that Freelancer was hiding behind that pathetic excuse and me calling it out was your concern tells me you're only here to act like a stroppy 13 year old who really wants to use the bad words he just learnt.
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My claim can be true and people can still be stuck in this thread - mostly because the guy who was making the ren'py mod quit before he got to the events.
These two are not mutually exclusive.
As for the personal attacks, idk how long you have been playing this fucking game but like I said, I have been following SR7 and his "creation" since before Covid. In that time I've managed to switch universities, lose two jobs, start a new study, and change computers like 3 or 4 times.
Meanwhile SU is still the same game as it was back when I first downloaded it, as far as the material that 90 percent of the user base will touch is concerned.
Sure, he has made "events" but the problems/requests people had for ages such as lessening the grind, expanding upon the bare-bones dialogue, adding more options with already existing heroines or hell, even returning the deleted "threat level" mechanic from earlier versions (something that people have been asking for in his Discord for ages) have still not been addressed in any capacity.
Do I agree with you about the fact that SR7 is a better creative director/artist than programmer? Yeah, of course. There is nothing to talk about there.
But two things are also a fact outside of that:
- Multiple people are working on SU (we know for a fact it isn't a solo venture from SR7)
- His art has significantly declined from the Bruce Timm/JLU-inspired artwork from the past to a much more generic hentai style.
Which is and still remains my main point.
You cannot have a whole team working for you, earn a large amount of money, not even bother to insert features people have been asking about for nearly 7 years and use the same excuses about "difficulty" and "communication issues" you had been spouting on fucking Reddit a decade ago (which SR7 did, and you can check for yourself if you want to).
On top of that, I DO think it is a bit weird that despite a team of at least two (if not more) people working on SU (and its art, since the person behind the sadly abandoned Project Winter Heroines did go on record saying they are doing artwork for SU) the end product is less in quality than the solo ventures of Doomination (which has reached the same level of content and development in 3 years) or Behind the Doom (much less content but better and more realistic artwork than either of the former with a truly engaging gameplay loop).
And I'm not even talking about games released in the same timeperiod as SU, like Rogue-like Evolution, which is just miles ahead on every conceivable level.
To address some of your other points:
I know that. I literally said that I use GenAI for text writing (since fanfics do not always cater to my particular fetishes lmao, and GenAI often fills that niche quite nicely). I understand that it isn't just slapping a couple of words in a generator and calling it a day. However, at the same time, this very site ALSO has a thread featuring dozens of pages of (among others) AI-generated fan-art based on the game, done by people who do NOT earn money via Patreon. And their AI-generated imagery is actually BETTER than the (supposedly) human art produced by SR7 at this point. If that's the case, and he's too lazy to actually create good art then why not, really? God knows people would probably like it more. On top of that, I expanded my point in another comment where I admitted that yes, art may not be as easy as people think it is but streamlining dialogue and writing can absolutely be done through GenAI. Take it from someone who cranks out thrice as much text as he would writing himself by using Google AI studios. Hell, I'm even willing to share the exact specific instructions I use for it.
IDK what that guy was about honestly. I was not voicing fair critique, I was absolutely just calling him a lying fucking wormy cunt bastard lmao, cause yeah, I'm this bitter at that point.
And this thread has long veered from "fair and reasonable critique" methinks.
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The Dev's behavior, I knew you would misread that.
And what I'm doing to you
Yet your trying to police their thoughts on a porn pirating site
Welcome to the internet, its annoying, sometimes its trolling, sometimes it's bots scraping content, and sometimes it people that dont care
pot meet kettle
Fapokso
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AI gets announced for the game
Updates take a noticeable decline
What did they mean by this?
Updates take a noticeable decline
What did they mean by this?
I recall one of the devs saying they've planned for 1 big gotham update and 1 big themyscira update this year.
i think that's gonna be it, 1 update by june and 1 update by Christmas.
i think that's gonna be it, 1 update by june and 1 update by Christmas.
I can draw quicker than Ai can reliably make something useful for me. I know everyone hates Ai but i've been trying to get it to work and honestly it's a technical hell.
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This time around what's funny is that according to them art isn't the problem but rather the writing is now the current "block". Since they announced that updates are gonna be on Ren'Py they have now found a new "problem" to blame delays, now its not unity being the problem but rather something else. Be for real, like I don't share the criticism around the new art, every artist changes and seeing how most of their patrons agree its just a simple matter of getting used to the new art or ignoring the game, but their excuses and the serious lack of communication has caused this game to really falter to what it should be.
Love peeps defending the devs hurt feelings, if they didn't want to run the risk of getting shit on for producing a poorly-designed ripoff porn parody, they could always just try making a poorly-designed original porno game instead... that far fewer people would invest in/donate for. Or I don't know, get a "real" job and do this shit on the side grow thicker skin!
Let's set this straight before it gets twisted further, I couldn't give a flying fuck about their feelings. I draw the line at harassing devs but I wouldn't say this matches the criteria since it's closer to a circle jerk of hate and otherwise agree that actions have consequences. My point is that insults aren't critique. If people want to throw shit like a bunch of apes, have at it, just don't try to claim it's anything higher brow than that. I haven't even interacted with Mishanya1004's previous comments because he's being honest about the fact shit-slinging is all he's doing and I respect that. I didn't even know about the RenPy port since it's been gone so long otherwise I dare say I'd be playing that instead, just like I said would be the case if there was an alternative and the only quote I took from his earlier outburst was for the general understanding of how GenAI works, like Gerbalzlayer has also said. It wasn't until Freelancer's minimisation that I said something, which Mishanya has agreed with. I'm not even going bother with Erebus's cherry-picking of information.
To be fair, I was making a general statement, not one specifically aimed at anyone; hence why I didn't quote anyone for a direct response. So instead, here's a more succinct explanation of how one person's criticism is another's insult:
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Mel Brooks or die!
"but your attempt at a censorship deflection despite not having been personally accused of doing so speaks to a persecution complex or perhaps a sense of guilt for wrongdoing"
Lol, LMAO even.
The persecution complex is some crazy work, comes off like a projection ngl.
You've been on here for longer than most of us running shameless defense for they who shall remain unnamed. Are you sure you're not associated because honestly at this point, you deserve a bone for your trouble.
You're not wrong on all accounts though, there's no competition (real or imaginary) because most here, myself included either don't have the time to burn to learn how to code/make art/both or the funds to facilitate the time investment to learn aforementioned skills. That's not going to be enough to stop people from making criticisms valid or otherwise.
"No guys see it's taking us LONGER to get updates out now haha, we're totally not using AI, also we need 5 month update cycles now to get you the quality you deserve" - somebody idk lmao (I'm being facetious nobody get their titties twisted)
Projection? Are we really stooping low enough for a "no you"? I have nothing to feel guilty over.
Is GSG suddenly Voldemort or something? The only reason I'm using the acronym is because I can't be bothered to type "Gunsmoke Games" every time I refer to them. And I'm just here providing benefit of the doubt, not trying to convince people to stay subscribed or something. In fact, I did the exact opposite in the last sentence of the second paragraph of this comment.
I do feel sorry for the person behind the emojis, which I still find funny no matter what's going on, if the narrative of the competence of the artist(s) being the problem and they're a tired mouthpiece is the truth. Beyond that, I've weighed in on productivity based on how we're led to believe this indie dev is structured, how long-term burn out effects artists and correcting the misconceptions of how AI image generation works. The first two are only maybe applicable to GSG/SR7 since none of us know for sure but I think it's worth putting out there among the "lazy", "milking" and "hack". If a different perspective is too conflicting with the circle jerk, I can not waste my time. Erebus has already made it known he doesn't like to hear an opinion other than his own but is that true of you as well? If so, that sounds far more like tone policing than anything I've said.
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