Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[Owlman8497]

this game has its flaws, biggest of which IMO is that you don't get to actually replay scenes with dialogue, in the vault. so many scenes are one and done and all you get is the silent film version after

There should be an option for dialogue so people can have both options

 

[Doc Chadley]

I must be the only person who doesn't really care for animations. I'll take a hot still image as long as the context and dialogue of the scene is sufficiently hot. Them going back to animations just means less scenes in general which is not what I want to see.

 

[Poopasaur]

I can't be the only one to think that with $15,082USD/month (from their Patreon CAA 13/7/2020), they should be able to manage their studio a little better? I can't help to think about what's the endgame for the game here? Do they have a proper roadmap to finish the game, or will it progressively just keep getting bigger and bigger and then eventually abandoned...

There can't be that many business dev parts for Smokeshank to handle, so let's assume he's on part time.

• Let's assume Sunset is the only FTE on the project, and gives himself a nice comfortable salary of $6,000/month ($72k/year)

• Let's assume Smokshank works 2 days a week, and does 0.4FTE at the same rate, at $1,200/month

• Let's assume ~$2,000 goes to all the other mods on their Discord.

That leaves them ~$5,800 left as either a grievance fund, or to go to a full time developer. If they were serious about overhauling the game to rebuild it in another engine, that's a ~$69k salary to pay a full-time developer. I'm not trying to attack the devs (this is probably my fav porn game out there), but you could seriously avoid all this burnout, crunch time, and stress injuries if they simply properly managed the development of their own product.

It makes no sense for 1 guy to handle the art AND code for a project as large as this themself. If they're serious about the project, SR7 should handle the art, and bring someone else onboard ASAP to handle and rebuild the codebase. They also need a proper roadmap for finishing the game.

 

[armion82]

Never paid for it so not angry, but nobody can deny that content was better at the beginning. Last time I really enjoyed this game was during Raven's training.
SR7 made a huge deal about the Prison and Yacht events, which were quite fun, but after one or 2 replays they are just slide shows.
Something is wrong in the gameplay, too. Training in cells was fun, but then you put them in the bordello and it's just like a reward gallery where you have nothing to do besides watching pictures. And I miss having to go in different parts of the city for quests, as basic as they were.
Also, I'm not a comics scholar nor have I watched the cartoons it's adapted from, and even I feel that stories and dialogues were better in the early days.

Actually no.The game was not better at the beginning.It takes 6-7 updates before even can be called a real game.
Do you know that in first version there is only Roulette,Tala,Mercy,Batgirl,Huntress and Black Canary?
Maybe around 1.7 with the intoduction of Supergirl,Hawkgirl and Wonder Woman it starts to be way better.
But still on that time(april 2017)there is almost nothing,not even the specials in GS.

Not talking of the very beginning, as I said I enjoyed Raven which was not 3 years ago.

Raven was february 2019 together with Miss Martian.
I think the last really awesome update was Batgirl-June 2019.

I can't be the only one to think that with $15,082USD/month (from their Patreon CAA 13/7/2020), they should be able to manage their studio a little better? I can't help to think about what's the endgame for the game here? Do they have a proper roadmap to finish the game, or will it progressively just keep getting bigger and bigger and then eventually abandoned...

Their can't be that many business dev parts for Smokeshank to handle, so let's assume he's on part time.

• Let's assume Sunset is the only FTE on the project, and gives himself a nice comfortable salary of $6,000/month ($72k/year)

• Let's assume Smokshank works 2 days a week, and does 0.4FTE at the same rate, at $1,200/month

• Let's assume ~$2,000 goes to all the other mods on their Discord.

That leaves them ~$5,800 left as either a grievance fund, or to go to a full time developer. If they were serious about overhauling the game to rebuild it in another engine, that's a ~$69k salary to pay a full-time developer. I'm not trying to attack the devs (this is probably my fav porn game out there), but you could seriously avoid all this burnout, crunch time, and stress injuries if they simply properly managed the development of their own product.

It makes no sense for 1 guy to handle the art AND code for a project as large as this themself. If they're serious about the project, SR7 should handle the art, and bring someone else onboard ASAP to handle and rebuild the codebase. They also need a proper roadmap for finishing the game.

They are not getting 15K.You forget Patreon's cut,PayPal's cut and all taxes.Depending on country it's possible to end with only around 5K.

Nobody is paying 66% in taxes and fees on $15k (you're missing several zeroes for that to happen). Patreon and Paypal combined are at most 8%. IIRC GSG is in Canada where even as a business it's making "so little" that it would all be nontaxable in the end anyways (full refund of taxes paid) - plus small business incentives, claiming part of home as business used, etc., way more of that money is staying with GSG than you think.

Cool.Thanks for the info.
Still that is not 15K in their pockets.
Not to mention nobody is forcing anyone to support them.

 

[billybeer]

They are not getting 15K.You forget Patreon's cut,PayPal's cut and all taxes.Depending on country it's possible to end with only around 5K.

Nobody is paying 66% in taxes and fees on $15k (you're missing several zeroes for that to happen). Patreon and Paypal combined are at most 8%. IIRC GSG is in Canada where even as a business it's making "so little" that it would all be nontaxable in the end anyways (full refund of taxes paid) - plus small business incentives, claiming part of home as business used, etc., way more of that money is staying with GSG than you think.

 

[Oriandu]

This game is still 10x better then summertime saga in my opinion and doesn't have a 65k a month budget.

Proof positive that opinions can be wrong.

 

[Devon Rehab]

I must be the only person who doesn't really care for animations. I'll take a hot still image as long as the context and dialogue of the scene is sufficiently hot. Them going back to animations just means less scenes in general which is not what I want to see.

I agree, I don't understand people saying they want animations or sound/music for games that don't have them or stopped adding them or removed them from a game that did. Especially ones that already have a hard time delivering updates on time and/or been accused of milking patron money. And you want them to add something that will stretch it out even more?

 

[aff571]

Is there more story to this or is it just a collect the next heroine pokemon style type of game?

Pretty much. Game feels like it ran out of steam and ideas a few years ago and is just coasting now.

 

[armion82]

Pretty much. Game feels like it ran out of steam and ideas a few years ago and is just coasting now.

Apparently that is not truth,otherwise there wouldn't be so many posts about why the game get a delay and that the dev is a milker.

 

[arken444]

SR7 is a good artist but a completely incompetent programmer and also very lazy. He refuses to contract someone to actually fix his shit code because that would mean sharing some of the money. His code is so shitty that this game still saves to your fucking windows registry after all this time, even though this was literally the first complaint people had from the first update. He also surrounds himself with sycophants and yes-men that only sing his praises. Criticizing him gets you an immediate permaban on his discord so he really doesn't hear a lot of complaints since he goes out of his way to ignore them.

If he showed some bare minimum of giving a fuck about his patrons and maybe displaying basic discipline so he can keep himself to a schedule, then he'd get way more money in the long run. It's how NLT managed to become one of the biggest guys around.

whose NLT

 

[Oriandu]

whose NLT

Team NLT, makers of a few forgettable tech demoish experiences and Lust Epidemic and Treasures of Nadia. They are the rare exception to the standard rules of Patreon game creators. High quality character models, games driven by actual stories (even if those stories are a tad derivative), with multiple animations every update, and updates that come typically on the first and fifteenth of a month. So in the time it takes Something Unlimited to produce one five minute long update of still images, Team NLT has created four updates with between eight and twelve animated sex scenes. The animations are not particularly complicated and are made with 3D models and therefore far easier to make than standard animation, but the fact the remains that they are four games in and their work is only getting better. The second update for this month was released a week early because the team lead of the project is on vacation, and that update didn't feel like a ton had been cut in favor of a quick release. Their projects are clearly well organized and well run, timely, and produce worthwhile updates twice a month like clockwork. They are the 1%.

 

[FriendlyBear12]

Team NLT, makers of a few forgettable tech demoish experiences and Lust Epidemic and Treasures of Nadia. They are the rare exception to the standard rules of Patreon game creators. High quality character models, games driven by actual stories (even if those stories are a tad derivative), with multiple animations every update, and updates that come typically on the first and fiftee(nth of a month. So in the time it takes Something Unlimited to produce one five minute long update of still images, Team NLT has created four updates with between eight and twelve animated sex scenes. The animations are not particularly complicated and are made with 3D models and therefore far easier to make than standard animation, but the fact the remains that they are four games in and their work is only getting better. The second update for this month was released a week early because the team lead of the project is on vacation, and that update didn't feel like a ton had been cut in favor of a quick release. Their projects are clearly well organized and well run, timely, and produce worthwhile updates twice a month like clockwork. They are the 1%.

I love NLT too, the only thing that bothers me is that all the girls use the same genitalia model. It's very much a personal preference thing but I wish he would give some of the girls a puffy pussy, like some other 3D games has done(E.G. Midnight Paradise, False Hero). Another thing that annoy me, the girl's anus are very pink, to the point that it look like they got skin rash or some infection.

 

[Oriandu]

They're certainly not perfect. Puzzles have a tendency to be obtuse, most character models are clearly derivative of each other, they fall back on the "omg big dik" stereotype every time. But ultimately they do far better work than most. Especially hack jobs like Something Unlimited.

 

[Owlman8497]

People are angry on the Pateron page. I hope it makes a difference

 

[ogr blanc]

I agree, I don't understand people saying they want animations or sound/music for games that don't have them or stopped adding them or removed them from a game that did. Especially ones that already have a hard time delivering updates on time and/or been accused of milking patron money. And you want them to add something that will stretch it out even more?

to me, animation is nice, but not needed. i have seen games where the scene didnt even have a static image but was carried with just writting. and it ended up being far more imersive than any animation.

animation takes time, which means, its extra work that could be used to deliver more of everything else.

 

[jakagami]

It makes no sense for 1 guy to handle the art AND code for a project as large as this themself. If they're serious about the project, SR7 should handle the art, and bring someone else onboard ASAP to handle and rebuild the codebase. They also need a proper roadmap for finishing the game.

There was a hired guy working on the rebuild, but he left, and no news ever since
At least it appears he left what was done of his work to ss7

 

[Oriandu]

People are angry on the Pateron page. I hope it makes a difference

Unless that anger turns to a whoooole bunch of people dropping their subs, it won't make a difference.

 

[Owlman8497]

Unless that anger turns to a whoooole bunch of people dropping their subs, it won't make a difference.

Very true I bet they don't even read the comments

 

[palmzq]

Remember when they were two weeks late after 4 months without an update? They just never recovered. Assume 'every 2 months' is now from the ~14th of every month to the ~14th of every month and you'll be much happier.

 

[Oriandu]

Remember when they were two weeks late after 4 months without an update? They just never recovered. Assume 'every 2 months' is now from the ~14th of every month to the ~14th of every month and you'll be much happier.

That was what I was expecting this time last month, but preview week started on time. People have a right to be upset with GSG over this, their patreons especially so.