VN Ren'Py SpaceCorps XXX [S2 v2.7.5] [RanliLabz]

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that the best game

 

[RanliLabz]

that the best game

Thanks Ibrahim! Very kind!

 

[SlaveOfSuggarz]

The more I think about the new Faith/Obedience mechanic and the effects it will have on the endings, the more I worry that you may have bitten off more than you can chew. For the sake of this post I will be assuming that Faith/Obedience are values between 100 and -100 with 0 being the starting point and 100 being the very Faithful/Obedient and -100 being Atheist/Rebellious. I apologise in advance for waffle and speculation that follows.


So far we seem to have 9 endings, each being a different combinations of the Faith/Obedience values (100, 0 and -100 being the three outcomes for each slider) as I cannot imagine the outcomes firing independently of each other, not only would the story become disjointed but also contradictory. For example a Faith 100 character intent on taking SpaceCorps on a Jihad would be contradictory with that character at Obedience -100 being part of a rebellion against SpaceCorps, However merging the two into a Faith/Obedience 100/-100 where the MC is a part of a theocratic coup attempt would make sense. So nine outcomes, not too bad in terms of workload

However, the outcomes of this stat are heavily dependent on another, as yet unimplemented stat [].

Then we have another stat to worry about, assuming it is another 100/-100 scale this brings us up to 27 permutations of the ending. Then there is the players choice of corp to consider, meaning 8 7 branching paths. As a soldier, a medic and a sex slave are going to have very different effects and outlooks on rebellions and space Jihads (I really want to say "Crusade" for the sake of the 40k memes, but I suppose it is empty without 20 genetically engineered supersoldier sons of the Emperor in command), so this likely brings us up to 216 189 potential endings, assuming you don't merge these paths later down the line with the Eighth Branch an as yet unknown plot point. And then we have other factors to consider, will how puritanical/perverted the MC is alter the ending? What about his degree of xenophobia/xenophilia? What about his romantic/sexual entanglements? What about the possibility of the Faith/Obedience/Unknown axes not being all or nothing? Maybe I think that a Faith 50 character would be more likely to proselytise rather than crusade (couldn't resist) or go home. Maybe I think an Obedience -50 character would be more likely to try reform the system from within rather than joining the rebels.

I love this game, but I also quite like you from our conversations in this thread and like I said, I am worried you may have bitten off more than you can chew here because I don't want you burn out and come to resent this game and us for driving you to that point.

 

[RanliLabz]

I love this game, but I also quite like you from our conversations in this thread and like I said, I am worried you may have bitten off more than you can chew here because I don't want you burn out and come to resent this game and us for driving you to that point.

Hey Slave! I love how deeply you get into things, and this is a really useful post that brings up some very pertinent points.

Now - I'm the first to admit that I'm insanely ambitious One element is that I be successful enough at raising funds on Patreon to accomplish the Grand Plan. Sure - there's probably only ever going to be one Summertime Saga (although imagine what could be done with $57k/month!) For a 10th of that, I'd be able to create a team able to work on multiple endings simultaneously - and I'm steadily getting there However - if I can't get to that point, I'll just have to scale back and do what can be achieved... because I think it would still be a great game.

So far we seem to have 9 endings, each being a different combinations of the Faith/Obedience values (100, 0 and -100 being the three outcomes for each slider) as I cannot imagine the outcomes firing independently of each other, not only would the story become disjointed but also contradictory. For example a Faith 100 character intent on taking SpaceCorps on a Jihad would be contradictory with that character at Obedience -100 being part of a rebellion against SpaceCorps, However merging the two into a Faith/Obedience 100/-100 where the MC is a part of a theocratic coup attempt would make sense. So nine outcomes, not too bad in terms of workload.

Exactly right on the 9 endings Since I'm an inveterate spoiler and I'd like to hear your thoughts, I've attached the putative Ethical Frameworks below.

Spoiler: 9 Ethical Frameworks

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Then we have another stat to worry about, assuming it is another 100/-100 scale this brings us up to 27 permutations of the ending.

Not exactly... I'm going to keep that one close to my chest until it's introduced, tho. It's sort of more about reinforcing the other stats and ensuring that the game doesn't spit out a contradictory ending. Still needs a fair bit of planning though (and Maths )

Then there is the players choice of corp to consider, meaning 8 7 branching paths. As a soldier, a medic and a sex slave are going to have very different effects and outlooks on rebellions and space Jihads (I really want to say "Crusade" for the sake of the 40k memes, but I suppose it is empty without 20 genetically engineered supersoldier sons of the Emperor in command), so this likely brings us up to 216 189 potential endings, assuming you don't merge these paths later down the line with the Eighth Branch an as yet unknown plot point.

There is no Eighth Branch Importantly, some Frameworks and branches are mutually exclusive... e.g, the Faith points lost training for SciCorps means the 3 religious endings are ruled out automatically. Others are dead-ends: it just won't matter if someone in ServiCorps is an Authoritarian, since they have no ability to act on that Ethical Framework and they'll simply carry on doing what they're doing (If they're a Rebel, on the other hand... ). The narrative consistency actually reduces the potential endings a lot.

And then we have other factors to consider, will how puritanical/perverted the MC is alter the ending? What about his degree of xenophobia/xenophilia? What about his romantic/sexual entanglements? What about the possibility of the Faith/Obedience/Unknown axes not being all or nothing? Maybe I think that a Faith 50 character would be more likely to proselytise rather than crusade (couldn't resist) or go home. Maybe I think an Obedience -50 character would be more likely to try reform the system from within rather than joining the rebels.

Perversion Points and the number of Characters in your Virtual Stable will affect the ending in a more peripheral way – since they’ll usually have the indirect effect of steering you towards lower Faith. Relationship points will have very little ending effect, and Xeno fits into the Third Ethical Stat.

And you’re right that I should take care to avoid the stats being all or nothing. I haven’t set the parameters in stone yet – but I suspect that the centre range "0" would actually be something more like -66 - +66, so that players had to actively drive towards endings so as to avoid inconsistent narratives

 

[SlaveOfSuggarz]

Hey Slave! I love how deeply you get into things, and this is a really useful post that brings up some very pertinent points.

Now - I'm the first to admit that I'm insanely ambitious One element is that I be successful enough at raising funds on Patreon to accomplish the Grand Plan. Sure - there's probably only ever going to be one Summertime Saga (although imagine what could be done with $57k/month!) For a 10th of that, I'd be able to create a team able to work on multiple endings simultaneously - and I'm steadily getting there However - if I can't get to that point, I'll just have to scale back and do what can be achieved... because I think it would still be a great game.

I am pleased you find my speculative ramblings useful , and I am relieved that you intend to bring on help, Aaryn from Straight!? recruited slaves helpers and he only has the two paths to worry about.

Exactly right on the 9 endings Since I'm an inveterate spoiler and I'd like to hear your thoughts, I've attached the putative Ethical Frameworks below.

Spoiler: 9 Ethical Frameworks

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I like what I am seeing here, given my kinks I am definitely going Faith -100 Obedience 100 for my first playthrough .

Spoiler: Thoughts on endings

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There is no Eighth Branch Importantly, some Frameworks and branches are mutually exclusive... e.g, the Faith points lost training for SciCorps means the 3 religious endings are ruled out automatically. Others are dead-ends: it just won't matter if someone in ServiCorps is an Authoritarian, since they have no ability to act on that Ethical Framework and they'll simply carry on doing what they're doing (If they're a Rebel, on the other hand... ). The narrative consistency actually reduces the potential endings a lot.

This is good to hear, internal consistency is always a plus in a story . While I could see a maid or sex slave as part of a rebellion (perfectly placed for gathering information), buy it is difficult to come up with anything they might do with fascistic tendencies. Since I imagine obedience will be strongly encouraged in the Service and Comfort Corps, perhaps their own Faith 0 Obedience 100 ending where the MC becomes an informant for the security services, reporting anything... interesting he hears from pillow talk or finds while cleaning.

Perversion Points and the number of Characters in your Virtual Stable will affect the ending in a more peripheral way – since they’ll usually have the indirect effect of steering you towards lower Faith.

I better still be able to get my sex cult (I find the lack of eggplant and peach emojis on a sex game site disturbing)

And you’re right that I should take care to avoid the stats being all or nothing. I haven’t set the parameters in stone yet – but I suspect that the centre range "0" would actually be something more like -66 - +66, so that players had to actively drive towards endings so as to avoid inconsistent narratives

 

[memoxcep]

What about next update? Do we know the date?

 

[RanliLabz]

What about next update? Do we know the date?

Hey memoxcep! Too early for an eta - but I'd say it's about a month off public release. I should have a clearer idea around the start of June.

I am pleased you find my speculative ramblings useful , and I am relieved that you intend to bring on help, Aaryn from Straight!? recruited slaves helpers and he only has the two paths to worry about.

Lol - that reminds me that I need to pump Aaryn for tips on how to manage an online team. He's always been very helpful with advice - from Daz tips to creating a Discord (he's basically my sensei ).

Spoiler: Thoughts on endings

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This is good to hear, internal consistency is always a plus in a story . While I could see a maid or sex slave as part of a rebellion (perfectly placed for gathering information), buy it is difficult to come up with anything they might do with fascistic tendencies. Since I imagine obedience will be strongly encouraged in the Service and Comfort Corps, perhaps their own Faith 0 Obedience 100 ending where the MC becomes an informant for the security services, reporting anything... interesting he hears from pillow talk or finds while cleaning.

You've totally hit the wavelength! When the Branches are up and running, the game will have a lot more optional side quests, and Spying will be regular feature (inc working for more than one Faction...)

I better still be able to get my sex cult (I find the lack of eggplant and peach emojis on a sex game site disturbing)

Weird, right? I guess they're worried the site would just become eggplant central. <---8 (old school!)

 

[Umbreeyoree]

All these potential endings are gonna make it real hard to franchise afterwards if this game goes as big as we all hope it to be.
Also, 8====D ((')) or 8=====D *
There's also (('))=====D. Don't want to leave anyone out.

 

[RanliLabz]

All these potential endings are gonna make it real hard to franchise afterwards if this game goes as big as we all hope it to be.
Also, 8====D (()) or 8=====D *
There's also (())=====D. Don't want to leave anyone out.

lol - Roasty! I didn't know you could do ispoiler! this is awesome!

Spoiler: Franchise

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[Liquel]

I Download version 0.2.3. But game ended so quickly why? the game end after I after the fight muscle woman.

 

[Umbreeyoree]

Do you have any kinks disabled? That could have caused you to skip a portion of the update.

 

[RanliLabz]

I Download version 0.2.3. But game ended so quickly why? the game end after I after the fight muscle woman.

Hey liquel! There are two scenes after the fight - one in Hell and one with The Nurse. If you didn’t see them, it means that you died... and will need to replay with different options until you get to the ‘to be continued’ screen.

 

[Liquel]

Hey liquel! There are two scenes after the fight - one in Hell and one with The Nurse. If you didn’t see them, it means that you died... and will need to replay with different options until you get to the ‘to be continued’ screen.

To be continued scene is end? if that's so the game is very short.

 

[Mayrun]

To be continued scene is end? if that's so the game is very short.

It IS a young game with only one person working on it. Actually, it's longer than expected considering the time it's been out. Rani's been cranking out updates regulately.

 

[RanliLabz]

It IS a young game with only one person working on it. Actually, it's longer than expected considering the time it's been out. Rani's been cranking out updates regulately.

Thanks Mayrun! The support is much appreciated!

 

[RanliLabz]

So, this is a thing I did. Any feedback would be appreciated, and any questions answered. Sorry if it looks like I'm hustling for cash (I mean - I am ] - but it should answer any questions I get about extra-content better than the current post.

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[User_66221]

I really loved the little naked nightmare thought of the main protagonist at the start of the game and others ideas are really good.

This game has a great potential, i like it, keep up like that

 

[RanliLabz]

I really loved the little naked nightmare thought of the main protagonist at the start of the game and others ideas are really good.

This game has a great potential, i like it, keep up like that

Thanks Hydra! I'm really pleased with the Fantasies... they were actually a last minute addition to the game. When I was replaying and testing for first release, all these porn scenarios that came out of the dialogue kept popping into my head - so I decided to make them pop into MC's head too!

 

[Liquel]

It IS a young game with only one person working on it. Actually, it's longer than expected considering the time it's been out. Rani's been cranking out updates regulately.

This game is 5gb. I mean content too little for 5gb

 

[RanliLabz]

This game is 5gb. I mean content too little for 5gb

That’s the HD version - if you use a PC you can play the compressed version at 687mb with almost no quality loss. The large size of the HD version is because it contains over 2100 hi-res images designed to be played at 1920x1080 and above, and is for players who prioritise Image-clarity over dl times or storage.

The number of images is similar to several much larger games, which may be throwing you off - but I use more stills per minute of gameplay than most devs to better illustrate the dialogue; I never reuse sequences and images you’ve already seen in later scenes; and use none of the tricks (like grind) to artificially inflate gameplay time, but keep a constant pace of plot and porn.