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That Lenore bad ending was just much more well written than the standard path. I wish the main character was intelligent and willful so often in this game. Ranlilabz can write a very compelling anti-hero, but I can just FEEL the predisposition of the protagonist combined with the Patreon format getting heavily in the way of development to the point where it's now becoming a meta joke in the universe. When MC gets cruel the writing quality just skyrockets, it's happened with Rick recently and now Lenore. Compare the writing quality of the scenarios where the MC just becomes a monster with the expected path and you will see plot contrivance nearly disappears, the actions are sensible, the choice of language improves, the scene flows naturally, there is basically no aspect remaining where the path where we help Lenore is a better written scene than you're an asshole version of the scene. I beg everyone to compare the writing quality when the MC is a massive jerk to what you expect to see because it's getting strangely consistent how much better the writing stands when the MC is no longer 2 IQ points from legal retardation and instead is a flawed moral lose canon.
I can't really see what makes the 'jerk' MC scenes particularly better written, tbh. Most of them are just OOC moments where he either verbally abuses or assaults someone. Which, I guess, yeah, if you like that character type, you'll probably like these moments more than the 'normal' MC scenes. Personally, non-con stuff doesn't appeal to me at all, especially in an M/F context, so I don't really care for these scene variants.

But even putting aside my personal distaste, I can't really understand your perspective where randomly assaulting someone would make the MC just 'flawed' or an 'anti-hero' (or 'sensible'). In the context of SpaceCorps, a (mostly) light-hearted sex comedy, it would be so out of place for the MC to start casually attacking other characters. It's not about patron interference, it's just not at all the story that the creator wants to tell.
 

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here is my unofficial Android port of SpaceCorpsXXX v2.7.1a.

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install the app. after a fresh install, run it once to create all the required folders. read .
then you have to copy the assets pack to the folder /RenPy/org.spacecorpsxxx.the66/game on Android 11 and newer or to the folder /Android/data/org.spacecorpsxxx.the66/files/game.

from now on my Android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like Windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage (or a new one on Android 11+), because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me ).
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I can't really see what makes the 'jerk' MC scenes particularly better written, tbh
The word choice, scene flow, expected next reactions, intentionality of actions, becoming an active protagonist to name a few. And that's just the Lenore scene I haven't even gotten to Rick.
Most of them are just OOC moments where he either verbally abuses or assaults someone
The reason as to why it's always so OOC is because the character is typically stupid and cowardly. However, when he breaks out of that, is he not a compelling character?
I can't really understand your perspective where randomly assaulting someone would make the MC just 'flawed' or an 'anti-hero' (or 'sensible')
Aight, let's go down the list of people who can to our playthrough, canonically (as in not a replay last decision end) at least sexually assault the MC to the best of my recollection. I don't even know if this is a full list and I profoundly apologize if I falsely accuse someone of SA when they are innocent but here is the list:
Cathy, Ensign 'Cis', Morgana, Cole, Diana, Fiora, Hanzi, Kex, Kumon, Luke, Rydick, The Shifter, and Titania. That's from the virtual stable. I can hum and haw about Lancelot or the individuals in the holomissions, I don't think the demons distort the moral framing though I will say the MC is having sex with them under false pretenses and that's just the best I can recall.

The only aspect in this universe that is keeping sexual assault or worse from being seen as almost ENTIERLY permissible is the invigilator (particularly the brig) and the constable. The expected morals for randomly assaulting someone were thrown out the window with Nurse Goodyear in the first scene of the game and they have been reinforced with extremely high frequency considering that until well more than 1/2 way through the game this all happened in ONE DAY!
In the context of SpaceCorps, a (mostly) light-hearted sex comedy, it would be so out of place for the MC to start casually attacking other characters
Considering the above list and the events as they stand, if I were in the MC's shoes, I'd worry if the damn soup wants to rape my ass considering what he went through and the expected norms of the ship. If the MC just decks someone in the face for touching him, I bet that the constable would put his neck on the line to defend the MC because of how insane the contrast for his experience which has been the mind reader would have almost an impossible time not empathizing with. In this universe, I don't believe for even a second that rape is more than an 'underierable trait that needs to be discouraged'. The place to do it isn't just here, it was years in development ago and we are well past the event horizon
 

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The word choice, scene flow, expected next reactions, intentionality of actions, becoming an active protagonist to name a few. And that's just the Lenore scene I haven't even gotten to Rick.

The reason as to why it's always so OOC is because the character is typically stupid and cowardly. However, when he breaks out of that, is he not a compelling character?
I honestly don't see that much of a contrast between the two scenes in terms of writing quality. The clear difference for me is in the intent: one is a light-hearted comedic scene where the MC is put into an uncomfortable position, but is ultimately rewarded for his actions because of his good intentions; the other is a pure power fantasy where the MC 'stops holding back'.

It comes down to what kind of story you're more interested in, and I personally enjoy the former scene more. The latter is just fundamentally unappealing, even outside of the assault stuff, because of the MC's personality and actions.

Aight, let's go down the list of people who can to our playthrough, canonically (as in not a replay last decision end) at least sexually assault the MC to the best of my recollection. I don't even know if this is a full list and I profoundly apologize if I falsely accuse someone of SA when they are innocent but here is the list:
Cathy, Ensign 'Cis', Morgana, Cole, Diana, Fiora, Hanzi, Kex, Kumon, Luke, Rydick, The Shifter, and Titania. That's from the virtual stable. I can hum and haw about Lancelot or the individuals in the holomissions, I don't think the demons distort the moral framing though I will say the MC is having sex with them under false pretenses and that's just the best I can recall.
Fair enough, there's been a precedent for scenes where the MC doesn't really give or gives reluctant consent (mostly the latter). But the framing and tone is just completely different compared to Lenore's or Meera's bad ends, for example. The MC isn't reduced to hysterically and helplessly crying for help as he's getting attacked, and more crucially, he's the one being taken advantage of vs. actively being the one attacking someone. All of these scenes are optional, and it's up to the player if they happen, so it does kind of make a difference whether you're choosing for the nurse to touch you or to mercilessly assault her.

It may seem like splitting hairs, but these are fundamentally two different fantasies, and they are written very differently. And the latter scenes, I'm assuming, will never be canon in the main story.

Considering the above list and the events as they stand, if I were in the MC's shoes, I'd worry if the damn soup wants to rape my ass considering what he went through and the expected norms of the ship. If the MC just decks someone in the face for touching him, I bet that the constable would put his neck on the line to defend the MC because of how insane the contrast for his experience which has been the mind reader would have almost an impossible time not empathizing with. In this universe, I don't believe for even a second that rape is more than an 'underierable trait that needs to be discouraged'. The place to do it isn't just here, it was years in development ago and we are well past the event horizon
If the game was being written as a "bullying victim turning the tables on his former bullies" revenge story, I could maybe see a reason for the MC to develop in this direction. But at this point, the MC is on good or OK terms with most of the cadets and crew, so it wouldn't really make sense for him to become adversarial and a 'jerk' to the other characters. (Even then, I can't really see SA as something that's done tit for tat, tbh)

The 'bully' characters were the daemons and Cole, and the MC has more-or-less got back at them. It doesn't make sense for him to go after Lenore, who has been nice and pleasant to the MC up until that moment.
 
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I honestly don't see that much of a contrast between the two scenes in terms of writing quality.
I honestly find this claim outright surprising, because to me, it's getting close to a clear and objective difference and I don't know how you don't see it.
The clear difference for me is in the intent: one is a light-hearted comedic scene where the MC is put into an uncomfortable position but is ultimately rewarded for his actions because of his good intentions; the other is a pure power fantasy where the MC 'stops holding back'.
Rani makes it very clear in the intended route of the game that she could DIE soon in there and Lenore is not spared those tears in the good-natured MC version. I had no expectation she was going to come out of that alive personally and was very ready for it to be a scheme where Dave tricked her into killing herself or for her to be in a position to manipulate the MC to go along with Dave/HanZi/Lenore/Rydick's scheme. Now that didn't happen and that's fine, but I just didn't read it as lighthearted, and I think there are quite a few elements there that keep it from appearing that way.
The MC isn't reduced to hysterically and helplessly crying for help as he's getting attacked, and more crucially, he's the one being taken advantage of vs. actively being the one attacking someone. All of these scenes are optional, and it's up to the player if they happen, so it does kind of make a difference whether you're choosing for the nurse to touch you or to mercilessly assault her.
He was reduced to tears a few times and often enough if you look at the walkthrough, we end in death ALOT of the time. Frankly, what 'should' be expected happen to the MC by the flow chart alone, would be for all this to just end in death. Also, I think after the 12th time you are taken advantage of, you'd grow a little hardened. Now that's most people the MC has killed people at this point. The shifter and some number of demons which we know are fundamentally humans. Also, the optionality of these scenes is optional to us the player, not to him. There would still be a difference but I think if there is a moral chasm, it's really tiny in universe.
It may seem like splitting hairs, but these are fundamentally two different fantasies, and they are written very differently. And the latter scenes, I'm assuming, will never be canon in the main story.
They let you be very cruel to Rick, not the most optimal scene but it's a good one. That one they left you with the option to do it and to leave it there to hurt him. It's not the same energy but we are very close as it is.
If the game was being written as a "bullying victim turning the tables on his former bullies" revenge story, I could maybe see a reason for the MC to develop in this direction
How about this: "I know where this is going, I'm going to save myself this time"
But at this point, the MC is on good or OK terms with most of the cadets and crew
That is a variable. You could legitimately be on everyone's bad side in this game as far as I can tell. If he isn't willing to ruin lives, his potential enthusiasm for sector nine is an interesting choice.
Even then, I can't really see SA as something that's done tit for tat, tbh
Doesn't have to be tit for tat, it just has to lose all it's moral weight which I think it already has
 

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Now that didn't happen and that's fine, but I just didn't read it as lighthearted, and I think there are quite a few elements there that keep it from appearing that way.
It was light-hearted to me because the whole premise is absurd and funny. No one actually gets stuck in washing machines irl (afaik), it's a silly porn plot. While there is some urgency to get her out for the characters, the scene is mostly focused on getting them naked and sticky to create a misunderstanding (and also some titillation, ofc).

He was reduced to tears a few times and often enough if you look at the walkthrough, we end in death ALOT of the time. Frankly, what 'should' be expected happen to the MC by the flow chart alone, would be for all this to just end in death.

Also, the optionality of these scenes is optional to us the player, not to him. There would still be a difference but I think if there is a moral chasm, it's really tiny in universe.
I'm not sure I understand you correctly. What I mean when I say that the encounters are optional is that, if the player doesn't want the MC to end up in peril, there are options to avoid that. Most of the scenes have an option to end them prematurely and to completely stop the characters from coming onto him. So it's completely possible for the MC to go through the game without being assaulted.

And it's clearly supposed to be seen as a bad thing in-universe. Multiple characters mention how unprofessional the crew is, how the lower ranks are taken advantage of, etc. It's kind of part of what makes the MC doubt the morality and righteousness of SpaceCorps, amongst other things.

They let you be very cruel to Rick, not the most optimal scene but it's a good one. That one they left you with the option to do it and to leave it there to hurt him. It's not the same energy but we are very close as it is.
When I was talking about scenes being non-canon, I meant specifically the scenes where the MC SA's someone. The Rick encounter is instead an example of a scene where the MC is able to turn the table on someone being aggressive with him. It's not like he just walks up to Rick and starts taunting him out of nowhere about how his girlfriend is cheating on him.

In general, the game punishes the player for jerk-like behaviour. Usually, choices where the MC is casually cruel to someone result in losing points with the characters, premature endings or game overs.

How about this: "I know where this is going, I'm going to save myself this time"

Doesn't have to be tit for tat, it just has to lose all it's moral weight which I think it already has
I don't think the situation for the MC is literally kill or be killed, and it's definitely not enough to warrant him behaving like this. And it would be one thing if he was just on the defense and standing his ground in some situations, but actively attacking someone for no reason makes no sense to me.
 
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The starting point of the discussion is that the (usually bad ending) scenes where Jimmi behaves like a bastard are better written and flow better than the 'canon' ones where he's a good boy. Honestly I don't see that much of a difference in quality, and I assume you think that because it's something you enjoy more. It is not, however, in line with the backstory and I totally understand and approve why they are bad endings for now.
I can actually see that Ranli will give an opportunity for the player to play Jimmi as a bully or a jerk (there is, after all, a fully dedicated kink to it), but that will appear down the line, not so soon.
 
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i cant play the update what am i doing wrong? my save dont recognize the new version
The update only has the Maid Lenore at the laundry scene.
You need to go to an earlier save where you pick a task (Holodeck, Prison Snitch, Fellatio 101, ServiCorps Training)

Pick ServiCorps Training
 

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It would be nice if the MC could have more than one primary love interest because of the "good" endings. Would be nice to see more of the Anna content in the bunks even after picking another love interest. I really hope this is an actual harem game and not just pretending to be one. I've seen enough of those types of games where the dev claims it to be, yet the MC only gets a few of the women he's interested in as LI's.

If I knew changing some of the flags in the game to change seeing more of the Anna content, I would. More than likely, it would screw up the game too much.
 
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I can understand the dev wants to make the MC a country bumpkin from a small backwater place, but the dialogue makes him sound dumber than a rock.
 
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