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A less classy dev might suggest that he's going to fill that hole.
I'll be honest, I was thinking about making that joke, but I couldn't make it fit (no pun intended, really).

I think it just that we have a surplus of incest games (a lot of them being subpar) out here that make it harder to filter other genres sometimes.
To be honest, I've always found incest games to be, well, lazy. You could easily replace the sister with the girl next door, but then you'd have to have two locations, lesser opportunities to interact, better structured story, so let's scrap all that and go for the sister because that's an easier target that requires less effort to create. Face it, most incest games just have one house where all the action takes place (Big Brother anyone?).

ps: I wouldn't consider this game here as vanilla.
And now we'll get a sex scene involving food, unlocking the kink named "pure vanilla".
 
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I actually can name one: The retreat. Roughly 50%/50% straight and gay. And, it's a finished game
And, all things considered, it was actually pretty good considering it was able to cobble together an interesting narrative while exclusively using real or 'real porn' gifs and pics...I think...you're little side-kick who was trying to corrupt you may have been hand drawn or something. And it could end a number of different ways depending on player choice.
 
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Well... there's about a metric ton of gay furries, so at least that fetish is covered pretty well. In fact it seems there is vastly more gay than straight furry content, at least when it comes to adult games.

As for other fetishes, they may be underserved because the target audience is smaller. I don't know the exact numbers when it comes gay and bi versus straight players but I imagine it's only a fraction.
Very few games try to appeal to all sexual orientations equally (and even fewer succeed), so it makes sense to keep it more vanilla. Otherwise you might end up only attracting a fraction of a fraction of the potential player base.
Lesbians have way less choices than gays tbh (yes, there are plenty of lesbian scenes in str8 games, but I wouldn't consider those fully, considering it's basically oriented towards a str8 fetish -might be good for a good fingering, but I kind of guess they'd like more :p)

However, except some of the aforementioned holes in specific fetishes, there is a decent amount of gay games covering a good array of approaches from very romance/dating sim-oriented (e.g. the famous one with the daddies) to romance-with-sex (Coming out on top, Yearning a gay story) to almost pure sex (e.g. Full service) and more fetish-y ones (Naked Butler, Beyond Eden...). You can get both yaoi and bara (also in their western declinations). So yes, smaller pool, but not a totally dire situation. I agree that we miss some (hard to say which ones are the least represented -maybe harem? NTR among gay couples?)

And some well written games even manage to propose an 'equal representation' between str8 and gay content, like Spacecorps here, or Hornstown, just to mention a couple. I think the difficulty here is that, if there's only one writer, it's not easy to write believable and well put-together storylines for a sexual orientation you don't belong to.

Yes, for some reason there is an excess of furry in the gay community (which is always kind of a mystery to me).
 

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Well... there's about a metric ton of gay furries, so at least that fetish is covered pretty well. In fact it seems there is vastly more gay than straight furry content, at least when it comes to adult games.

As for other fetishes, they may be underserved because the target audience is smaller. I don't know the exact numbers when it comes gay and bi versus straight players but I imagine it's only a fraction.
Very few games try to appeal to all sexual orientations equally (and even fewer succeed), so it makes sense to keep it more vanilla. Otherwise you might end up only attracting a fraction of a fraction of the potential player base.
It does cut down the potential player base - but I could never see myself making a vanilla game :ROFLMAO: The road to success is almost certainly a vanilla game that adds an incest option and one other somewhat popular kink - but most adult games aren't made with much of an eye to that (mainly being passion projects made by perverted insomniacs who've exhausted all other porn on the net :ROFLMAO:)
And some well written games even manage to propose an 'equal representation' between str8 and gay content, like Spacecorps here, or Hornstown, just to mention a couple. I think the difficulty here is that, if there's only one writer, it's not easy to write believable and well put-together storylines for a sexual orientation you don't belong to.

Yes, for some reason there is an excess of furry in the gay community (which is always kind of a mystery to me).
From what I've seen, when writers try and insert m/m just to expand the player base, it generally comes across as a bit cynical and bolted-on - and usually they often get criticism from both the targeted m/m players and the f/m players who feel robbed of that precious update time. I think devs are best off only including what they like themselves (although it's then worth listening to patrons and players re the amount of each kink, character or storyline to be included).
 

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I'll need to go back and play the remastered scenes but just played through the last part with Cici :ROFLMAO: the humour in this game as always to perfection it's like a work of art everything to what went down in that scene to the background music used was just perfect. I can't wait to see how the next part goes and how Cici will now react to the MC being in her mind.
 

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I'll need to go back and play the remastered scenes but just played through the last part with Cici :ROFLMAO: the humour in this game as always to perfection it's like a work of art everything to what went down in that scene to the background music used was just perfect. I can't wait to see how the next part goes and how Cici will now react to the MC being in her mind.
Thanks Mormont! :p There's a big conversation coming up for those two... my advice is to deny you saw anything :ROFLMAO: (generally downplaying your psi-abilities to others will be the way to go... it will make some uncomfortable, and some will want to use you).

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It does cut down the potential player base - but I could never see myself making a vanilla game :ROFLMAO: The road to success is almost certainly a vanilla game that adds an incest option and one other somewhat popular kink - but most adult games aren't made with much of an eye to that (mainly being passion projects made by perverted insomniacs who've exhausted all other porn on the net :ROFLMAO:)
You forgot sleep sex...
Can't have generic incest without the protagonist poking some woman all the ways without her waking up. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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Lesbians have way less choices than gays tbh (yes, there are plenty of lesbian scenes in str8 games, but I wouldn't consider those fully, considering it's basically oriented towards a str8 fetish -might be good for a good fingering, but I kind of guess they'd like more :p)
I wouldn't limit that to lesbians, it's more a matter of women having far less choices than men, whether they're straight or not.
Just like regular porn, adult games are mostly focused on the male experience. It took a long time for porn movies specifically made for women to come around and having watched a few of those, I'm not sure they really succeed in that regard.

There are plenty of games with female protagonists of course, but half of them are of the female MC gets used and raped in various ways variety and even the more consensual ones seem to focus on the pleasure of men, not women.

And some well written games even manage to propose an 'equal representation' between str8 and gay content, like Spacecorps here, or Hornstown, just to mention a couple. I think the difficulty here is that, if there's only one writer, it's not easy to write believable and well put-together storylines for a sexual orientation you don't belong to.
I wish you wouldn't put Hornstown on that list.
While it may or may not provide 'equal representation' for straight and gay players (never tried to play it gay, so no idea), it fails to meet the standard in other ways. Last time I checked there were a lot of interesting and diverse options for submissives, while the content for dominants was very short, bland and underwhelming in every way.

Of course Spacecorps doesn't provide content for dominant players either, but it's harder to blame the dev given the initial setting and the fact that we haven't even made it out of the intro yet.
 

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You forgot sleep sex...
Can't have generic incest without the protagonist poking some woman all the ways without her waking up. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Yeah... I mean... how :ROFLMAO: Especially given most of the MC's doing it have knee-length cocks.
I wouldn't limit that to lesbians, it's more a matter of women having far less choices than men, whether they're straight or not.
Just like regular porn, adult games are mostly focused on the male experience. It took a long time for porn movies specifically made for women to come around and having watched a few of those, I'm not sure they really succeed in that regard.
I'm a pretty big fan of porn for women - while I'm not that interested in its heavy focus on cunnilingus and toys, I like that they usually pick attractive men and women (in contrast to much of the stuff around). However, I do wish they had more plot... I like a plot to my porn!
 

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I wouldn't limit that to lesbians, it's more a matter of women having far less choices than men, whether they're straight or not.
Just like regular porn, adult games are mostly focused on the male experience. It took a long time for porn movies specifically made for women to come around and having watched a few of those, I'm not sure they really succeed in that regard.
That is definitely true
 

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I wish you wouldn't put Hornstown on that list.
While it may or may not provide 'equal representation' for straight and gay players (never tried to play it gay, so no idea), it fails to meet the standard in other ways. Last time I checked there were a lot of interesting and diverse options for submissives, while the content for dominants was very short, bland and underwhelming in every way.
Well, I was commenting specifically on gay/str8 equal representation in a game, not about the quality (even though I think they improved that unbalance with the latest updates -not sure)
 
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However, I do wish they had more plot... I like a plot to my porn!
Heh, the exact opposite for me.
I value good writing in adult games, but I can't stand porn plots. Nobody's going to buy that shit and the attempts at acting are more likely to kill my boner than keep me interested. Just give me the sex and let me headcanon the backstory myself.
 
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Just a suggestion, since there is add-on and stuff for old scene.. maybe have an ending where the mc accidentally win the fight against the sergeant and might have different outcome, when mc try to rescue anna
 
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Yeah... I mean... how :ROFLMAO: Especially given most of the MC's doing it have knee-length cocks.
Flashbacks from MC where the protagonist put his ~25cm dick (the average in this world :LOL:) inside his sister's mouth and she doesn't wake up. :FacePalm::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I'm a pretty big fan of porn for women - while I'm not that interested in its heavy focus on cunnilingus and toys, I like that they usually pick attractive men and women (in contrast to much of the stuff around). However, I do wish they had more plot... I like a plot to my porn!
I don't mind having a story or not (sure sometimes it is funny). What i care more is having lots of skinship during the sex scene, it is nice seeing they are horny for each other instead of mechanical sex with +10min long close ups. :p

Just a suggestion, since there is add-on and stuff for old scene.. maybe have an ending where the mc accidentally win the fight against the sergeant and might have different outcome, when mc try to rescue anna
Sarge is a lot stronger than Jimmy and she is also the ship's melee combat trainer. Plus Jimmy already got lucky against her before, doubt she would let her guard down again. Nope you gonna have to lick Sarge's pussy. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Flashbacks from MC where the protagonist put his ~25cm dick (the average in this world :LOL:) inside his sister's mouth and she doesn't wake up. :FacePalm::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


I don't mind having a story or not (sure sometimes it is funny). What i care more is having lots of skinship during the sex scene, it is nice seeing they are horny for each other instead of mechanical sex with +10min long close ups. :p


Sarge is a lot stronger than Jimmy and she is also the ship's melee combat trainer. Plus Jimmy already got lucky against her before, doubt she would let her guard down again. Nope you gonna have to lick Sarge's pussy. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
well, i doesnt mind that ~ that scene is still funny ~
 
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