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I'm not seeing anything to suggest it's doomed, but it could be a fair bit more efficient and accessible, and the actual game content could have some changes (but that comes into subjective territory). The dev is consistent, provides updates on Patreon between releases, and shows no sign of letting up. It just comes down to whether people continue enjoying what she's putting out, and there will always be a range of "yes and no" to that for any game.
Well, perhaps I was hyperbolical in my "doomsaying", but I just hate to see such sloppy work. Not to mention, the differences between paths being mostly superficial, with the NTR path in particular getting the short end of the sick...

Maybe their next project will be more... in-depth.
 

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The dev notes on the opening page that this is her first ever game she's developing. I can understand your critiques to help her in future endeavors but trying to analyze this so deeply is a bit much in my opinion. Doesn't need to be a therapy session... Just enjoy the game for what it is or what it isn't.
 

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The dev notes on the opening page that this is her first ever game she's developing. I can understand your critiques to help her in future endeavors but trying to analyze this so deeply is a bit much in my opinion. Doesn't need to be a therapy session... Just enjoy the game for what it is or what it isn't.
It wouldn't be F95 if folks didn't scrutinize, criticize every minute detail and nuance of a game...:ROFLMAO:
This is a very, very good one, of any type. And easily one of the top 2 or 3 'phone' games/VNs...
 

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It wouldn't be F95 if folks didn't scrutinize, criticize every minute detail and nuance of a game...:ROFLMAO:
This is a very, very good one, of any type. And easily one of the top 2 or 3 'phone' games/VNs...
Yes critiques can be a good thing to help devs learn and create better content in the future but some just take things to a level that is deeper than any of the holes of these girls in these games
 

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It wouldn't be F95 if folks didn't scrutinize, criticize every minute detail and nuance of a game...:ROFLMAO:
This is a very, very good one, of any type. And easily one of the top 2 or 3 'phone' games/VNs...
For any criticisms I may have, I agree that this is one of the better AVN games that either exclusively or quite often involves phone-based interactions. Frankly, the "phone" game genre is usually not for me, so for me to even be continuing to keep up with this one says something in itself (can be taken as a compliment). The only two I currently have on my radar right now is this game and Love & Jealousy (which often involves phone usage including sexual displays).
 
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The dev notes on the opening page that this is her first ever game she's developing. I can understand your critiques to help her in future endeavors but trying to analyze this so deeply is a bit much in my opinion. Doesn't need to be a therapy session... Just enjoy the game for what it is or what it isn't.
Why not? It's fun for many, disagreements help keep the forum active and generate more traffic, some even become friends and others enemies :LUL: , the discussion is fine and if it gets out of hand, that's what moderators are for, I think every creator should expect a high level of criticism of what they publish, few creators manage to keep so many happy with their updates that they only enjoy the forum in a positive way.
 
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Well discussions are fine with me if that's what you enjoy... But when some insult or comment negatively towards the dev abilities because the story isn't what they want it to be or what they like is the part that bugs me. Just saying that it's her first game that she's developing and learning as she goes so maybe don't be so harsh when psychoanalyzing the story. And I'm not calling out anyone at all just generally speaking
 

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Well discussions are fine with me if that's what you enjoy... But when some insult or comment negatively towards the dev abilities because the story isn't what they want it to be or what they like is the part that bugs me. Just saying that it's her first game that she's developing and learning as she goes so maybe don't be so harsh when psychoanalyzing the story. And I'm not calling out anyone at all just generally speaking
I don't think I've seen anything in this thread that fits your comments. Sure there have been some posts where people talk about what they don't like, which you get in any game thread and which are absolutely valid unless they go too far off topic or begin to get abusive. Other than that, the discussions about the dev's abilities and the way the game is put together have been just that - discussions. I've not even seen any real negativity during those discussions, and certainly nothing I could call insulting, so either I'm looking at the thread through rose-tinted glasses for some reason, or you're seeing something that isn't there.
 
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I don't think I've seen anything in this thread that fits your comments. Sure there have been some posts where people talk about what they don't like, which you get in any game thread and which are absolutely valid unless they go too far off topic or begin to get abusive. Other than that, the discussions about the dev's abilities and the way the game is put together have been just that - discussions. I've not even seen any real negativity during those discussions, and certainly nothing I could call insulting, so either I'm looking at the thread through rose-tinted glasses for some reason, or you're seeing something that isn't there.
I never said it was in this thread or called anyone out specifically. Generally speaking....I was just simply pointing out that it was her first go at this is all
 

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I never said it was in this thread or called anyone out specifically. Generally speaking....I was just simply pointing out that it was her first go at this is all
True, it's her first time, and that's why I still like the game for what it is in the end - despite failing at what it tries to be.

Stay Online has the benefit and advantage over most other phone games because it still uses Daz3D models, and not "AI-slop" renders that make these games indistinguishable from one another. That is a big reason why I still find enjoyment in it.

However, even just these 2 branches of the game have proved too much for the dev on their first time, and part of the reason why could be traced back to their development methods:
  • hard-coding text into renders is a huge limiting factor (I would even call it a mistake), as typo's and grammatical errors can't even be fixed retroactively without a lot of effort & time.
  • NTR path turns out to be a reduction of the NTS path - which, being logical in some aspects (PoV should be limited), is completely illogical in others; Game Over's are bad design, and never include them into your AVNs as they undermine the core principle of 'make a choice' gameplay mechanic.
    • In addition to a potential Game Over, the MC on the NTR path is a silent protagonist - his purpose in the story devolves almost entirely to that of a visual pass-through device for the player. Even if you added internal monologue to him, his role would not change significantly - but at least there would be justification for his "lack" of action in the given situation.
All in all, I want what's best for the game, and to see it thrive. These are constructive criticisms I've given to the game since 0.7 - which I know LadyLana read (as she does appear on the forums here & there) - yet purposefully ignored for 0.8, 0.9, and 0.95. That makes it clear she either doesn't agree, or refuses to acknowledge these issues with her fans.
 

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I never said it was in this thread or called anyone out specifically. Generally speaking....I was just simply pointing out that it was her first go at this is all
Then you shouldn't say stuff like that without specifying so, because everything you said makes it quite clear that you were referring to this game and thread.
 

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No need to take what I said personally if you're not guilty of anything
I'm not taking it personally, I'm just pointing out that you've come into this thread moaning that people shouldn't say insulting or negative things about the game/dev because it's the dev's first project, but then you claim you're not talking about this game/thread.
But when some insult or comment negatively towards the dev abilities because the story isn't what they want it to be or what they like is the part that bugs me. Just saying that it's her first game that she's developing and learning as she goes so maybe don't be so harsh when psychoanalyzing the story.
How is that not referring to this game?
 

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I'm not taking it personally, I'm just pointing out that you've come into this thread moaning that people shouldn't say insulting or negative things about the game/dev because it's the dev's first project, but then you claim you're not talking about this game/thread.

How is that not referring to this game?
Yes I am talking about this game and dev but I never said the comments were coming from this thread or any one specifically. Read back on my first post and I said generally speaking. It wasn't a personal attack on anyone in particular.... Understand?
 
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Yes I am talking about this game and dev but I never said the comments were coming from this thread or any one specifically. Read back on my first post and I said generally speaking. It wasn't a personal attack on anyone in particular.... Understand?
That's like walking into a Mercedes car dealership, then start trashing the tires, the steering, the ABS... but when called out by the salesmen for trolling, your defense is: "nah, I was talking about BMW cars" :WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

You start defending the dev from "harsh" criticism on this thread, then have the gall to say you weren't talking about me or someone else providing that criticism, when it was clear as day that you absolutely were?
 
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