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after Julia has repeatedly noted Jacob's intense and inappropriately expressed sexual attraction to her (to which her husband has twice told her she should remind him that she's married and just shut him down)
I don't actually recall Patrick telling her to "shut him down" per se, and that's the issue. He should have said that, but what I remember him saying was almost like a tease – "tell him he's got no chance with you" as opposed to "remind him you're married and he needs to stop it."
Of course, the game could have ended prematurely if the husband admits to Julia early on that he knows she crossed the line with Markus, but where would be the fun in ending the game so early like that?
There is such a "game over", it came a few updates back, even before the initial sex scene with Markus. You get the opportunity to tell Julia you caught her giving Markus the blowjob, which can lead to a game over.
I think Vika said something in the text message that he isn't the only one who has access to the cameras.
In the case of cameras, this can only refer to his house or there are several cameras in the holiday home to which she has not given access. In any case, she'll start something with it, I suspect.
It's Vika. Vika also has access to the camera – she's talking about the one at her place, because she has also been watching Julia have sexy times there (and she shares a screengrab from it in one message of Julia having sex). There's no indication of there being additional cameras there (which is maybe a missed opportunity, but perhaps that would have been too much). There's also no indication that she has access to (or knowledge of) the cameras at Patrick and Julia's house.

Patrick's buddy Jimmy has access to those cameras though, if you didn't set a new password when setting them up, and I'd like to see something arising from that at some point.
 

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I think Vika said something in the text message that he isn't the only one who has access to the cameras.
In the case of cameras, this can only refer to his house or there are several cameras in the holiday home to which she has not given access. In any case, she'll start something with it, I suspect.
Vika's husband is a cuck, so he probably has that house full of cameras so he doesn't miss his wife having sex all over the house.
It's totally logical to think that's what a husband like him would do, Also, someone like that who likes to watch is very likely to be watching the guests.
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If the story of this novel were a little darker, I would dare to say that here you could set up a situation where Julia is blackmailed with the recording of a video cheating on Patrick.
 

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Hello. This is my first post on this forum and I would like to greet you all warmly right away. I would like to comment because I am very interested in the discussion. To be honest, I have not played this game. At first, I downloaded it because I was interested in the formula and the story - the distance between spouses and their contact. At first, I thought that this story and the game might be cool, but after seeing the renders, something touched me. It is obvious why we play such games. The opinions on the forum also allowed me to formulate certain conclusions - in my opinion, the game is becoming more and more illogical and predictable.

I was curious about how the relationship between the main characters could develop. I understand that this is an erotic game, the main theme of which is netorare, netorase, etc. But shouldn't every game have a coherent and logical story? Let's start from the beginning - I'm only basing this on what I've read and seen (I EXPRESSLY STATE THAT THESE ARE MY IMPRESSIONS, OTHERS DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM; I HAVEN'T PLAYED IT; BY THE WAY, MY MIND IS OPEN):
  1. a young married couple and separation - the man is stationed in another city because he has a job there. They communicate by phone. They are very young, so they have a big sexual appetite - okay;
  2. the main character's wife spends time with her friend, who turns out to be a "sexually open" person - okay;
  3. they invite men over, later we learn that one of these men and the heroine have an affair - okay;
But:
  1. how it happened that a few days have passed and the woman has sex with a stranger;
  2. why does intercourse occur, even though the woman had previously declared that he should not cross boundaries;
  3. why does the guy who fucks his wife send photos or videos of their intercourse;
  4. why is the main character's behavior irrational and idiotic (no reaction to his wife's first intercourse with another man, etc.);
  5. in the following days - what influenced the woman to feel pleasure from the fact that she is fucking another man, and her husband watches it without any objection.

Generally - what are the motives of the main characters' actions and what are their real emotions, reactions?

In my opinion, the overall subject matter seemed interesting to me. But it seems to me that the creator unconsciously makes the main character a passive, idiotic person (no emotions, no reaction), and the story becomes predictable. What will be in later updates:
  • the female main character fucks two guys;
  • the female main character fucks her friend and some guy;
  • the female main character and her friend have sex with these two guys;
  • an orgy - the heroine invites other men and women - all the videos and photos are sent to her by her friend/the man who fucks her/another man/another woman, and our main character watches it calmly.

At the moment, this is all that comes to my mind. This post is not meant to offend, these are simply my impressions and conclusions. I don't know if I can speak up, even though I haven't played it.

Unless this whole situation between the wife and husband was discussed "before" the game, then you can look at the whole situation differently.

Anyway...I'm interested enough to keep up with the game to its conclusion, as I'm curious about how each path will turn out in the end. Frankly though, this game is not particularly sexually arousing or exciting to me. The renders/animations for the sex scenes are okay to me but tend to be quite brief, and it's hard for me to buy that the wife's behavior is very much about pleasing her husband when she seems to be such an easy lay while he's away (with her tending to give it all up to another man who is chasing her quite suddenly and with little buildup or resistance).
I think the same.
 

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Android version doesn't work, same as the previous update... (not compatible with latest package error while installing)
 
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Hello. This is my first post on this forum and I would like to greet you all warmly right away. I would like to comment because I am very interested in the discussion. To be honest, I have not played this game. At first, I downloaded it because I was interested in the formula and the story - the distance between spouses and their contact. At first, I thought that this story and the game might be cool, but after seeing the renders, something touched me. It is obvious why we play such games. The opinions on the forum also allowed me to formulate certain conclusions - in my opinion, the game is becoming more and more illogical and predictable.

I was curious about how the relationship between the main characters could develop. I understand that this is an erotic game, the main theme of which is netorare, netorase, etc. But shouldn't every game have a coherent and logical story? Let's start from the beginning - I'm only basing this on what I've read and seen (I EXPRESSLY STATE THAT THESE ARE MY IMPRESSIONS, OTHERS DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM; I HAVEN'T PLAYED IT; BY THE WAY, MY MIND IS OPEN):
  1. a young married couple and separation - the man is stationed in another city because he has a job there. They communicate by phone. They are very young, so they have a big sexual appetite - okay;
  2. the main character's wife spends time with her friend, who turns out to be a "sexually open" person - okay;
  3. they invite men over, later we learn that one of these men and the heroine have an affair - okay;
But:
  1. how it happened that a few days have passed and the woman has sex with a stranger;
  2. why does intercourse occur, even though the woman had previously declared that he should not cross boundaries;
  3. why does the guy who fucks his wife send photos or videos of their intercourse;
  4. why is the main character's behavior irrational and idiotic (no reaction to his wife's first intercourse with another man, etc.);
  5. in the following days - what influenced the woman to feel pleasure from the fact that she is fucking another man, and her husband watches it without any objection.

Generally - what are the motives of the main characters' actions and what are their real emotions, reactions?

In my opinion, the overall subject matter seemed interesting to me. But it seems to me that the creator unconsciously makes the main character a passive, idiotic person (no emotions, no reaction), and the story becomes predictable. What will be in later updates:
  • the female main character fucks two guys;
  • the female main character fucks her friend and some guy;
  • the female main character and her friend have sex with these two guys;
  • an orgy - the heroine invites other men and women - all the videos and photos are sent to her by her friend/the man who fucks her/another man/another woman, and our main character watches it calmly.

At the moment, this is all that comes to my mind. This post is not meant to offend, these are simply my impressions and conclusions. I don't know if I can speak up, even though I haven't played it.

Unless this whole situation between the wife and husband was discussed "before" the game, then you can look at the whole situation differently.



I think the same.
To be honest... you're asking questions that you can find the answers to by playing the game. I personally don't understand why you're trying to get to the bottom of these mysteries without playing it, but you do you. Play the game and form an opinion, then you will be qualified to say that you feel the dev has created her characters in a certain way. But without playing the game, you can't really make such claims because you don't have anything to base them on.

You can't say "in my opinion, the game is becoming..." unless you've played it. All you can say is "I've heard x and y from people who actually have played the game, and have formed their own opinions."
 
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To be honest... you're asking questions that you can find the answers to by playing the game. I personally don't understand why you're trying to get to the bottom of these mysteries without playing it, but you do you. Play the game and form an opinion, then you will be qualified to say that you feel the dev has created her characters in a certain way. But without playing the game, you can't really make such claims because you don't have anything to base them on.

You can't say "in my opinion, the game is becoming..." unless you've played it. All you can say is "I've heard x and y from people who actually have played the game, and have formed their own opinions."
I respect your decision and you are absolutely right in saying that I should play it first to form my own opinion. But that's what posts and reviews are for, to see if the game is interesting. I've played various games, even those related to the issue of cuckold, betrayal, etc. Maybe some of my conclusions and assumptions are wrong, but I, without having played the game, share some of the opinions of users, even guessing what might be in the next update, having conclusions like the above, does it mean that there is something wrong with me, or maybe the game is somehow "badly designed"? Don't you think there is something to it? In my opinion, the story should be such that it encourages the player, right? And if it's the other way around - the behavior of the characters mentioned by others, the whole entourage...
To sum up - as my colleague psychedevil mentioned - I would like to see where it all leads.
 
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I don't actually recall Patrick telling her to "shut him down" per se, and that's the issue. He should have said that, but what I remember him saying was almost like a tease – "tell him he's got no chance with you" as opposed to "remind him you're married and he needs to stop it."
On the faithful path, I believe that what was said was close enough to "shut him down" to where Julia as a wife should have interpreted it as shutting Jacob down.

Julia: "I often catch him looking at me...sometimes it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable."

Patrick: "You should just remind him again that you have a husband."

Later on...

Julia: "Jacob constantly looks my way...flirts with me. In moments like these I feel shy and awkward."

Patrick: "You should definitely tell him directly that he has no chance with you."

Julia: "Yes, you're right."

So the phrase "shut him down" was not used literally, but it's clear enough to me that (1) Jacob is making his sexual attraction toward a married woman (Julia) obvious to the point of being uncomfortable for her and her husband and (2) Julia's husband has twice told her (in so many words) that she should tell Jacob to back off by reminding him that she's married and thus he has no chance with her.

That's why for me (given Jacob's inappropriate behavior) it doesn't make sense that Julia would want to end a conversation with her husband to go dance with Jacob. Dancing is an activity that often involves close physical contact and would give a guy like Jacob more opportunity to possibly do other inappropriate things, like touch Julia in certain places or pull her in uncomfortably close, etc. So why after all that's been said and done would she be interested in dancing with Jacob while her husband is not around? (and furthermore end the conversation with her husband to go do that?)

There is such a "game over", it came a few updates back, even before the initial sex scene with Markus. You get the opportunity to tell Julia you caught her giving Markus the blowjob, which can lead to a game over.
I know that. Sorry if it was unclear, but I was pointing out what you said...that on the cheating path, one could have ended the game prematurely by admitting as the husband that you saw Julia crossing the line with Markus...but who wants to end the game early like that and miss so much content? (much less fun/interesting than continuing in some way)
 

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On the faithful path, I believe that what was said was close enough to "shut him down" to where Julia as a wife should have interpreted it as shutting Jacob down.

Julia: "I often catch him looking at me...sometimes it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable."

Patrick: "You should just remind him again that you have a husband."

Later on...

Julia: "Jacob constantly looks my way...flirts with me. In moments like these I feel shy and awkward."

Patrick: "You should definitely tell him directly that he has no chance with you."

Julia: "Yes, you're right."

So the phrase "shut him down" was not used literally, but it's clear enough to me that (1) Jacob is making his sexual attraction toward a married woman (Julia) obvious to the point of being uncomfortable for her and her husband and (2) Julia's husband has twice told her (in so many words) that she should tell Jacob to back off by reminding him that she's married and thus he has no chance with her.

That's why for me (given Jacob's inappropriate behavior) it doesn't make sense that Julia would want to end a conversation with her husband to go dance with Jacob. Dancing is an activity that often involves close physical contact and would give a guy like Jacob more opportunity to possibly do other inappropriate things, like touch Julia in certain places or pull her in uncomfortably close, etc. So why after all that's been said and done would she be interested in dancing with Jacob while her husband is not around? (and furthermore end the conversation with her husband to go do that?)



I know that. Sorry if it was unclear, but I was pointing out what you said...that on the cheating path, one could have ended the game prematurely by admitting as the husband that you saw Julia crossing the line with Markus...but who wants to end the game early like that and miss so much content? (much less fun/interesting than continuing in some way)
YOU...Sir or Madame...you have a keen sight into the human mind. I like that. Its a pleasure reading your analyses. I just had to say that. :)(y)
 
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I respect your decision and you are absolutely right in saying that I should play it first to form my own opinion. But that's what posts and reviews are for, to see if the game is interesting. I've played various games, even those related to the issue of cuckold, betrayal, etc. Maybe some of my conclusions and assumptions are wrong, but I, without having played the game, share some of the opinions of users, even guessing what might be in the next update, having conclusions like the above, does it mean that there is something wrong with me, or maybe the game is somehow "badly designed"? Don't you think there is something to it? In my opinion, the story should be such that it encourages the player, right? And if it's the other way around - the behavior of the characters mentioned by others, the whole entourage...
To sum up - as my colleague psychedevil mentioned - I would like to see where it all leads.
I get what you're trying to say, but I really think you're going about it in the wrong way. It looks like you're appropriating the opinions of others and trying to pass them off as your own. All you can actually do without playing the game is provide second-hand information, with all the bias, missed pathing, confusion between paths, memory lapses, misunderstandings, and whatever else might come with them.

Plus it's hardly a representative sample to take those opinions from. You said "in my opinion, the game is becoming more and more illogical and predictable" (which is almost an oxymoron in itself) - let's assume from that that you're talking about just the last three updates. How many people have spoken in the forum, or provided reviews over the last three or so months covering those updates? Then compare to the number of players, which neither of us can provide, but is a far bigger number. I can tell you though that only one of the five download links for the current update gives me a number of downloads, and it currently sits at 1333, and LL has 305 paid members on her Patreon, who may not have all downloaded 0.95, but almost certainly won't have used those F95 links if they did.

Yes you can make guesses on aspects of the game from what that small percentage of players talk about in here, but it's really not enough for you to talk about your opinions on the game itself. Just give it a try and then come back and give us an actual informed opinion (not telling you to "go away and don't come back until you've played it" because that's not the sort of person I am, and there's no rule that says you can't talk about a game without first playing it - I'm just talking about the authority with which you can discuss opinions without the basis to form them first, and also giving the game as a recommendation, because I think it's a good one).
Patrick: "You should definitely tell him directly that he has no chance with you."
I get everything you're saying, and I agree, it's just that wording of the bit I left in the quote... It just doesn't come across to me as being definitive (even using the words "definitely" and "directly"), it feels almost like it's saying "Yeah, I might be available, but not to you" - does that make sense?
 
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I get everything you're saying, and I agree, it's just that wording of the bit I left in the quote... It just doesn't come across to me as being definitive (even using the words "definitely" and "directly"), it feels almost like it's saying "Yeah, I might be available, but not to you" - does that make sense?
I think this is a case of the dev trying to make dialogue & renders that sorta fit into all routes simultaneously - the end result of which is a disjointed progression of events. This is due to the rushed nature of this game's monthly releases.

I'm not even going to talk about the inclusion of a "Faithful" route in a game like this, especially when the aforementioned method of development is being employed; you're already pressed for time, why make it harder on yourself by including a path that goes against the entire premise of the game...
 
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On the faithful path for Julia, there was one instance where the same line of dialogue was repeated by Julia twice (when she was asking Markus about what Vika had been saying to her husband behind her back). There also was one instance where the same line of text was repeated twice by Vika when she was teasing Julia's husband Patrick about how she had hoped to see something more interesting happen on the cameras around her house.

Additionally on the faithful path, Julia's response to seeing Jacob masturbate after he had seen her naked (due to him opening the bathroom door which does not lock) is totally out of place. Julia says, "This turns me on even more." It shouldn't turn her on at all; she should be disgusted by it; and regardless, she certainly shouldn't be telling her husband that it turns her on.

Then again on the faithful path, one would think that after Julia has repeatedly noted Jacob's intense and inappropriately expressed sexual attraction to her (to which her husband has twice told her she should remind him that she's married and just shut him down) that she would not want to end the last text conversation of the night by saying, "Sorry, honey, Jacob is asking me to dance." If this guy is not respecting her boundaries as a married woman, why would she want to end a conversation with her husband to go dance with the guy?

I'm keeping up with this game mostly to see how much of a lying cheating hoe Julia becomes in relation to her husband in such a short period of time. If her husband does not make a continual effort to influence her decisions in a more conservative direction as well as interrupt the sexual advances of the men around her (such as by calling her on the phone or asking her to video chat with him), then she so easily leans toward cheating on him with the men who are readily available and actively seeking her attention. And she outright lies time and again to her husband when from his POV he already knows the answers to his questions and is asking her to see if she'll continue to deny everything.

Of course, the game could have ended prematurely if the husband admits to Julia early on that he knows she crossed the line with Markus, but where would be the fun in ending the game so early like that? Nah, I would rather watch Julia become more and more of a lying cheating hoe who is unknowingly and repeatedly showing her husband that she cannot be trusted. However, my one hope for the cheating path is that it has an adequate payoff in terms of the dramatic fallout when Julia and her husband reunite or when it's finally revealed that he knows she's been giving her pussy out like it's free pie. Otherwise, I would be disappointed with the cheating path in the end.

As for the openly sharing (and possibly cuckold-only husband) path, it's the standard story of the physically attractive and chronically horny wife who loves to tease her husband by flirting and fucking with other men, which he supposedly enjoys as nothing more than an observer as much as she enjoys taking another man's dick inside of her with greater frequency and excitement. As usual, as the wife is experiencing this wonderful time of sexual liberation, the husband is getting no action of his own with other women.

The only occurrences thus far that hint this could become more of a swinging situation are the increasingly provocative texts and videos of herself having sex with other men that Vika is sending Julia's husband. So maybe Julia's husband will have the opportunity to fuck Vika roughly in the ass for being such a bad girl in influencing his wife's sex life (at least initially) without them having discussed it as a married couple. However, even if more of a swinging situation emerges, the husband would have some catching up to do given how often his wife has already had sex with another man (and possibly one other man) in such a short period of time, with the wife (possibly) already eager to have sex with two men at the same time (usually code for double penetration, which is an act that almost every woman who experiences it comes to know as the ultimate sexual satisfaction and for most women is quite sensibly like getting double the satisfaction from double the dose of dick engaged in sexual intercourse with her at once; I mean, after that, how can having just one dick at a time compare?).

Anyway...I'm interested enough to keep up with the game to its conclusion, as I'm curious about how each path will turn out in the end. Frankly though, this game is not particularly sexually arousing or exciting to me. The renders/animations for the sex scenes are okay to me but tend to be quite brief, and it's hard for me to buy that the wife's behavior is very much about pleasing her husband when she seems to be such an easy lay while he's away (with her tending to give it all up to another man who is chasing her quite suddenly and with little buildup or resistance).
I agree with u last update,the text and scenes in loyal path are too strange.I find strange that Julia let Markus pick up her in his,just to send a picture to vika.
 

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I agree with u last update,the text and scenes in loyal path are too strange.I find strange that Julia let Markus pick up her in his,just to send a picture to vika.
Yeah, that bothered me too, as Markus' hands were on Julia's bare ass. Then in the beach photo with Jacob, he kisses her on the cheek as he holds her close...and this Jacob is the dude she caught masturbating immediately after walking in on her in the bathroom while she was naked.
 
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Yeah, that bothered me too, as Markus' hands were on Julia's bare ass. Then in the beach photo with Jacob, he kisses her on the cheek as he holds her close...and this Jacob is the dude she caught masturbating immediately after walking in on her in the bathroom while she was naked.
seem it is a commom problem in phone games.
 
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seem it is a commom problem in phone games.
Yeah, I suppose the AVN phone game genre typically is centered on the husband watching helplessly as other men do things to his ultra horny wife while he's not around or for him to allow things to be done to his wife by other men while he's not around, which is part of the reason that the genre generally is not my cup of tea (though out of the two, I prefer the path in which it at least is happening with the husband's permission).

At the same time, however, this phone game still has enough positive qualities to keep me interested in seeing where things go. I do find Julia to be quite hot, even in the still images she texts her husband on the loyal path (such as when she sends him a photo of herself naked and spread-legged and says that she masturbated last night thinking about him before falling asleep). And despite some errors/inconsistencies, the writing is still better than most other phone games I've given a try (with this being only one of two phone games I foresee me following until the end).
 
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NTR Mode - BBC sex is secret (i lovee BBC big dick):D

NTS Mode - Patrick only likes to see Markus' dick, so I'll give it my pussy to no but Markus. (I have to show Patrick the satisfaction of anal sex.)
 

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To check if my assumptions were correct, I started playing the game.

First, I chose the first option - fidelity. And I already noticed the first clash - why does Julia invite her friend to her house, who happens to be "wild"? Does she not have any other friends? This friend comes with her lover and immediately after entering, they start their game. Then the action moves on to the heroine catching them having sex. So the hero is gone, and Vika feels like it's her apartment.

The situation with the laptop - I don't understand. How did it happen that after turning on the device, a porn site about ntrs was displayed? If this is his dream, he will probably hide it. Did the power go out? Was the hero caught by his wife? Did he have to leave suddenly? The issue of using someone else's equipment without permission is still ok.

A shopping trip - Vika teases the main character by pulling aside the curtain behind which Julia is changing and takes a photo of the man who is staring at the heroine, and then sends it to the protagonist. He replies that she should not interfere in their affairs and leave their marriage alone. Then why doesn't the hero tell his wife that her friend is up to something and is worried?

Day four - help with bringing in furniture. Vika invites two other guys to help, then there is this text about Marcus:

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Next - a birthday party at the hero's house and a text sent by Vika:

fot2.JPG

Why are these situations even there? We want to be faithful, but we unconsciously push ourselves into something else? Why does the main character have no emotions when his wife mentions that Markus is looking at her as if there was no one else? Why doesn't the mc send any warnings to his wife's friend so that she doesn't cross the line. And then normally, as if nothing had happened, agreeing to a birthday party at his house. Is this the behavior in a relationship based on fidelity?

I looked at the screenshots from day 21 and noticed that the ntr and nrts paths are similar. And if you chose the fidelity option, what is the photo Marcus sent supposed to mean? Did anything happen despite fidelity? If we are following the ntrs path, why does the hero say that it only turns him on? Why is there no other reaction? Is the main character such a fetishist and a passive person, only replying - "it turns me on"? Wouldn't a normal guy write to his wife that he is, for example, touching his penis or something like that?
 
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