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noping123

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Not MC though, and they are pretty merciless in ridiculing it in the game as well. If I remember correctly the term used was "Elephant trunk". :D

Damnit.

Ok a little backstory. I play runescape. It's a game I enjoy when I feel the need to decompress - I'll load it up for an hour or so, and it helps me relax.

So here I am playing a little bit before I go do stuff - and you make that post. I click the link...


and proceed to laugh so hard I fucking died. (In runescape).

Again I say damn you lol.
 

Wacky Woohoo Pizza Man

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Honestly surpriced Bad memories isn't on the list.

Whats more whack is Sorcerer is on the list, I mean don't get me wrong I love the game. Up there on my list of games for sure. But its weird to see on a "story focus" list. Initial it was pretty story heavy but then MC literally dicks every female he meets, negotiations? Dicking, need to pretend a fight? Dick em. They scenes were spammed towards the last few releases, and felt out of place. It breaks creteria #3 and #5 (every female character want MC's magical di- I mean genes).

Edit: F in the chat for Reluctant Archon and Mad world, so much lost potential :(
 
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mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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Honestly surpriced Bad memories isn't on the list.

Whats more whack is Sorcerer is on the list, I mean don't get me wrong I love the game. Up there on my list of games for sure. But its weird to see on a "story focus" list. Initial it was pretty story heavy but then MC literally dicks every female he meets, negotiations? Dicking, need to pretend a fight? Dick em. They scenes were spammed towards the last few releases, and felt out of place. It breaks creteria #3 and #5 (every female character want MC's magical di- I mean genes).

Edit: F in the chat for Reluctant Archon and Mad world, so much lost potential :(
Reluctant Archon is peak fantasy porn along with Ataegina for me,it's a gigantic shame it was abandoned.
 

jufot

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Honestly surpriced Bad memories isn't on the list.
I don't play games where MC is a sexual predator, so I abandoned this one about 30 minutes in. So I can't tell if the story is any good or not.

Whats more whack is Sorcerer is on the list [...] Initial it was pretty story heavy but then MC literally dicks every female he meets, negotiations? Dicking, need to pretend a fight? Dick em. They scenes were spammed towards the last few releases, and felt out of place. It breaks creteria #3 and #5 (every female character want MC's magical di- I mean genes).
That's your playthrough. My Alexander was only ever interested in Miyuki. To be fair, the sex scenes in Talothral's games are very bad and I always fast-forward through them, so it's easier for me to miss the porny bits.

Edit: F in the chat for Reluctant Archon and Mad world, so much lost potential :(
Indeed, such a shame about Reluctant Archon. The dev just disappeared. Mad World isn't abandoned, though. The dev is active on both Patreon and Discord.
 

bacienvu88

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I just played it. The lengths the dev seem to go to avoid upsetting the delicate sensibilities of the people on that thread is... sad. There are multiple choices to cater to these people and it always, always comes at a cost. In this case, it ruins both the story and the characters.

We've been told repeatedly that vampires are very loose and open with their sexuality, with no real attachments and a taste for public sex. So, why is it an option to not see anything in a scene where an orgy is explicitly mentioned to be taking place?

Likewise, Leyala's agency as a person is entirely discarded for catering to these people. She has no opinions, no strongly held beliefs on anything! She's just a glorified sex doll at this point. You can say to her "I want to finger you in front of the entire vampire court" and she'll say oh sure, no big deal. You can also tell her not to do anything sexual and suddenly, she's "yeah, I wouldn't have been comfortable with that anyway." Which is it? What does she think?

I'm going to wait for one more update, but I'm inclined to remove the game from the OP. :(
Dev seemed a bit receptive to my criticism at least.
 

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Dev seemed a bit receptive to my criticism at least.
Naturally, I agree. A LI whose will and desires are always subordinated to the MC's preferences destroys the integrity of the character. From my point of view, a game with a LI like that does not fit the story-first genre, particularly as jufot defines it.
 
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jufot

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a game with a LI like that does not fit the story-first genre, particularly as jufot defines it.
Exactly. I'm willing to give it another chance with the next update, but if it doesn't get any better it'll be off the list.

It's funny, Layala was much more confident and independent when she was a stranger, and not an LI :/
 

bacienvu88

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Exactly. I'm willing to give it another chance with the next update, but if it doesn't get any better it'll be off the list.

It's funny, Layala was much more confident and independent when she was a stranger, and not an LI :/
It is a shame, I really liked the other parts of the update. Particularly the talk with Ophelia. That choice is a really good one that does not have an obvious answer. Is Ophelia telling the truth (there are many indications that she is)? Why is she telling this now? Is this choice going to come back to Lucius? And so on.
 

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Honestly surpriced Bad memories isn't on the list.
That game gives you a game over screen when you do the right thing and stop your sister licking your pusssy... It also tells you that you're an idiot for doing so...Yeah.., i mean.., c'mon now, that's not a story first game=) It's a harem porn game.

I only played the lesbian route and i gotta say that the game has very good animations. So from a lesbian porn perspective it was pretty good. Although, the female MC behaves more like a guy and she's like a female sex predator, but whatever...It's all a bit sad when it comes to Bad memories because the developer clearly has some talent, especially the diverse female cast was pretty impressive (I really liked Katherine). But he chose to make a pure porn game... Which is cool and all, but to me it felt like it could have been more. I guess fans of harem games will love it though
 
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jufot

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It is a shame, I really liked the other parts of the update. Particularly the talk with Ophelia. That choice is a really good one that does not have an obvious answer. Is Ophelia telling the truth (there are many indications that she is)? Why is she telling this now? Is this choice going to come back to Lucius? And so on.
Agreed. I chose to believe Ophelia, mostly because I don't like Lucius. The flashbacks we've seen from Atlas' POV show us that Effie really did suffer and Lucius could have prevented it, he just chose not to. Further, Ophelia notes the power differential between her and Lucius, and how it's not so easy to say no to the king. That rings true to me.
 
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Doorknob22

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I played the first release of Vae Victus. I liked it for the most part. ...

I put that game on hold not because I got disinterested but because it has gameolay elements like war and kingdom management. I typically let gameplay eroges cook for a long time before playing to let it develop all the gameplay elements for a smooth run.
You can ignore most of the Khaganate management elements by turning them off in the Settings screen. I believe they also matured since the first release, and I continue to improve them with every update.
 

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I don't play games where MC is a sexual predator, so I abandoned this one about 30 minutes in. So I can't tell if the story is any good or not.
Fair, it has some very strong unlikeable characteristics when it comes to the MC and other characters.

That's your playthrough. My Alexander was only ever interested in Miyuki. To be fair, the sex scenes in Talothral's games are very bad and I always fast-forward through them, so it's easier for me to miss the porny bits.
Yeah the scenes weren't great and I used the multimod with walkthrough since I hate having to replay games for "true endings" where it was likely some random binary choice 12 chapters ago shit, my play-through had me hooked at the start with good world building and premise and the MC doesn't a dumbass (surprisingly rare in porn games) and seemed legit, a bit too John wick-y but better than the alternative. But as it went further in, it started to become very VERY "meet X person high in chain of command", if gender == female, fuck the NPC. Go next.
Maybe I'll do a clean playthrough and go with my gut rather than the walkthrough.

Indeed, such a shame about Reluctant Archon. The dev just disappeared. Mad World isn't abandoned, though. The dev is active on both Patreon and Discord.
Mad world dev is active is one of the best news I have had in a while, currently I am praying that Revenant scratches the itch of "Secret Magical world co-existing with the modern world in plain sight" genre.
Any other games you would recommend that fits the above? Given that you have Re Archon, Mad world and Revenant, I am hoping you know a few more ^^
 

mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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Fair, it has some very strong unlikeable characteristics when it comes to the MC and other characters.


Yeah the scenes weren't great and I used the multimod with walkthrough since I hate having to replay games for "true endings" where it was likely some random binary choice 12 chapters ago shit, my play-through had me hooked at the start with good world building and premise and the MC doesn't a dumbass (surprisingly rare in porn games) and seemed legit, a bit too John wick-y but better than the alternative. But as it went further in, it started to become very VERY "meet X person high in chain of command", if gender == female, fuck the NPC. Go next.
Maybe I'll do a clean playthrough and go with my gut rather than the walkthrough.


Mad world dev is active is one of the best news I have had in a while, currently I am praying that Revenant scratches the itch of "Secret Magical world co-existing with the modern world in plain sight" genre.
Any other games you would recommend that fits the above? Given that you have Re Archon, Mad world and Revenant, I am hoping you know a few more ^^
Love of Magic is one of the best Urban Fantasy games in here,The Seven Realms is a good one too. Then of course you have Rebirth,which is about vampires.
 

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a bit too John wick-y but better than the alternative
Haha, Sorcerer actually has the most tame MC among Talothral's games. If you thought Alexander was too "John wick-y", then definitely avoid his Terminus Sentinel games :)
Any other games you would recommend that fits the above? Given that you have Re Archon, Mad world and Revenant, I am hoping you know a few more ^^
Well, there is Rebirth. I quite like it, but it's not as good as the other three.
 

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  • Have you noticed how the cat perches on Edward's bike, after the MC and his friend semi-crash at the end of their sodden night out on the town? It's just a tiny detail... but adds life to the world.
Speaking of interesting details in CC: The boxing gloves on the T-Rex.
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bacienvu88

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If this is indeed Elsa, it lends credence to my theory that her family and whoever "Mrs. Sut-" is, are two separate households.
One of the households could also refer to Alice and Jack Brown. Elsa definitely hides a lot. And exactly who she is is one of the things she hides. Doesn't mean she is part of two households though.

The main question about Elsa that I have is why she is at EO in the first place. Can't see that she is there for experience, since she feel more experienced than anyone there except perhaps Jack Brown himself. So why is she there? And why does she invest so much into Eddie? She doesn't seem to want to draw attention to herself within the company from what I can see. Does she need someone loyal to her at the top of the company? Why can't it be herself, she already works at a fairly high level for the company, so she can't be that worried she'll be exposed anyway.

Btw, I'm kind of interested in seeing where the Lucy route leads Eddie. Can't see it leads anywhere good, but still interesting.
 

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You can ignore most of the Khaganate management elements by turning them off in the Settings screen. I believe they also matured since the first release, and I continue to improve them with every update.
I do like (real) gameplay elements in my games. If you are putting in the work, I am not looking to disable that huge portion of the game. I just wait until the game is completed or very far along if it's not a classic VN.
 
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Alright, I have another strong recommendation! There isn't much of a story, so it won't go on the list, but it's so, very good. Meet Camp Klondike!

The first thing you'll notice is the graphics. It's... well, it's a mix of Microsoft Paint and clipart from Office 97 :D It feels weird at first, but I'd urge you to push through. It fits the atmosphere well, and the experience is greatly enhanced by animations and sound effects.

What's it about, then? It's a summer camp for college-aged boys and girls. Klondike is run by a strict headmistress who does not want shenanigans in her domain. Obviously, horny teenagers have other plans. Some (like our MC) are new to the camp, and some have known each other for years, allowing for some interesting dynamics. The writing is quite good, and often hilarious.

So far, so ordinary. What makes the game special is how it cares for its characters. At its core, Klondike is an exploration of sexuality and kink. It does so with humour, realism and finesse, without resorting to cheap objectification.

There are scant concessions for porn logic, if any. The girls are almost all sexually experienced to various degrees, while MC's experience is limited to being on the cover of a sex manual and some... unfortunate attempts at exploration with aquatic equipment :) Some girls have boyfriends, some are interested in boys other than the MC (!), and most are willing to talk about their sexual history - in graphic detail - around a campfire, with plenty of alcohol as social lubricant.

One of my biggest pet-peeves in AVNs is the poor quality of sex writing. Watching characters repeatedly smash their bits does absolutely nothing for me. You could create the most intricate, photorealistic renders, but without eroticism I'll likely yawn and fast-forward. Klondike gets eroticism right. One girl narrates her extremely hot experience about getting fucked on a nude beach, another enjoys mutual masturbation with the MC in the wee hours of the night, yet another has some rough play time with the MC in a cave. Kinks are explored, voyeurs and exhibitionists discover themselves.

And everything happens without reducing anyone to their body parts. These are people who care about being seen and understood, not merely used. They communicate. Boundaries exist, and are respected. One of the girl's first sex scene with the MC includes a quick chat about how exactly she likes and doesn't like to be touched. Such a stark contrast to the "just stick it in" we've come to expect. Condoms are a thing! MC and a girl decide not to go for PIV despite being very much in the heat of the moment because they realize neither of them brought a condom.

It's not just MC's interactions, either. One of the girls - the one closest to MC - helps out another guy in a sexual situation. It's meant as an act of kindness for a friend, is received as such, and no one gets jealous or possessive. Yet another guy has feelings for yet another girl, and MC plays wingman to both. Some girls are actual lesbians (not "men with breasts", as Tlaero would say), and have no interest in the MC.

I could go on and on, but this is already long enough. I'll leave you with one of my favourite bits from the game so far :)

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Sounds super promising, but is that really the mcs face?
 

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Also, nobody told me that The Bite: Revenant is from the creator of Robbin Hoods. For a long time it was my favorite incomplete VN. I'm gonna try to bump it up in priority.
 
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