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Tlaero & Mortze's new Elsaverse game is out!
I have a strong suspicion that this game makes heavy use of AI. The soundtrack is very obviously a jumbled MIDI mess and the character writing had lost consistency after the first release already. Haven't looked at the script, but I imagine ChatGPT is relatively good at python.https://f95zone.to/threads/dreamland-v0-2-6-dokiden.135723/ thisi s the dreamland?
This is interesting to me. My next actual game is called "Gemini," so it shouldn't be terribly surprising that it's about two siblings. The thought of them being romantically linked never even entered my mind. I guess I should mentally prepare for all of the people who are going to flood the thread with "WTF, you called it Gemini, so it's obviously an incest game!"It sucks so fucking much that developers are asked to justify why they don't want to do incest. The brother and sister get along well, sure, but how is that sexual passion? Like seriously, wtf? How is it "wrong" to write a close sibling relationship without it being sexual?
Yeah, that game gave me the same vibes. There was another unknown voyeur in the forest besides horny Alice's teenage brother, right? And the missing girls fotos at the gas station...Damn, now I want to play an AVN in the Scream universe
Yeah, an MC has relatives, which means there must be incest. If there is no incest, then why make his mother and sister so beautiful? This makes some sense if you came to watch porn and suddenly found a story-based game with porn elements and you hate this kind of VN. Well, that's a bummer for you thenIt sucks so fucking much that developers are asked to justify why they don't want to do incest. The brother and sister get along well, sure, but how is that sexual passion? Like seriously, wtf? How is it "wrong" to write a close sibling relationship without it being sexual?
Yeah, I looked at all three choices and chose not to move forward with the worst case scenario.No I haven't, I assume she's going to be one of the other patients there?. Of course with an easy going, light hearted story attached to her
But no, I chose reason here because she didn't strike me as that kind of a girl.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
This turned out to be a good recommendation. The story is just getting started, but I'm already hooked and the prose is surprisingly good. It feels like this is not the first time the dev is writing fiction.- Simple beginnings
Hard to talk about this one. It seems to be a story first game, but you can't really tell what the story's actually going to be about. Her sister went missing... aaaaand that's basically it. You get some small story snippets here and there, but it's weird. It's supposed to have supernatural and horror elements somewhere down the line, but... we'll see I guess. Maybe?, Eventually?
Maybe this is a case for inspector Jufot to take over
I'll wait for one more chapter before adding the game to the OP.Emma said:I never thought Murphy would do the dirty deed in a bathroom. It's almost like walking in on Mother Teresa putting on a strap-on.
Will she need protection though?. It'll all come down to what's the story's going to be. I mean, supernatural, there aren't that many possibilities here. Vampires maybe?, underground society stuff, magic/super heroes/whatever...., but then again, there aren't any real signs of any of that yet. No strange events where someone does something weird. It's more like the opposite, the game is very grounded so far and leans heavy towards realism, actual realism i might add.. Take all the campus scenes for example who're done way different than what you get to see in your usual AVN.protecting Jenny from Amanda and Carl's scheme
I assume she will because we were repeatedly told just how obscenely rich, powerful, and influential Emma's parents are and how much her mum loves Jenny. I assume that emphasis is for a reason.Will she need protection though?
I like the way it was handled. There is no pressure, no in-your-face sexuality. Just a bunch of people who might vaguely be interesting to / interested in Jenny. "Loverboy" is obnoxious though I'm not playing a straight route, which leaves Emma, and that's just fine by me.Which brings me to another point here, the "dating sim" aspect of it. Near the end of the current content you get to choose your path lesbian/bi/straight, but it's interesting because there aren't that many people introduced as of yet. A lot of them feel more like acquaintances at most. Sure, there's the swim/sports teacher who'll come into play at some point I suppose. I was honestly kinda surprised that him and the MC haven't had a conversation of sorts yet. Maybe he isn't even supposed to be an LI?. Other than that there's only "Loverboy" and her BFF as of yet...
That's such an astute description of the game I've complained multiple times on this thread about most AVN characters being underwear models LARPing as ordinary people. This game is a prime example.This game felt a bit like watching some old abercrombie and fitch advertising campaign, or calvin klein or something... With the MC more often than not striking a pose, letting the audience admire his leet tats & body or whatever. I mean, hell, even cancer mom, who looks more like 25 instead of 40, seemed more like she was on some set for some chemotherapy photoshot rather than her being in actual danger of dying... Combine that with all the theatrical dialogue... My emotional investment ended up somewhere close to 0% .
The LoF cameo made me think that someone discovered a new fetish, when his peepee got hard at the parts of the game it wasn't supposed to. Maybe this is the start of some kind of melancholy porn genre.I also played "Beyond tomorrow"
This game felt a bit like watching some old abercrombie and fitch advertising campaign, or calvin klein or something... With the MC more often than not striking a pose, letting the audience admire his leet tats & body or whatever. I mean, hell, even cancer mom, who looks more like 25 instead of 40, seemed more like she was on some set for some chemotherapy photoshot rather than her being in actual danger of dying... Combine that with all the theatrical dialogue... My emotional investment ended up somewhere close to 0% .
Well, there's nakige and utsuge for Japanese VNs (they're not necessarily or exclusively AVNs, though). I haven't played very many, but I get the impression that they're often very melodramatic and like to pile on tragedy after tragedy. Imagine a week in the life of some poor MC: his parents die in a car crash, his sister is so traumatized as a result that she stops speaking or displaying any emotion, and his girlfriend is also diagnosed with a fatal illness.Maybe this is the start of some kind of melancholy porn genre.
I think a lot depends on the way the story is told. Ideally, we should be able to have characters in AVNs who have disabilities, serious physical illnesses, and/or mental health issues just like real people do. As long as they're depicted as actual people and not just empty gateways to exploitative sex scenes, I think it's generally a good thing. Katawa Shoujo for instance I thought did a good job of making sure the routes were not centered around the characters' disabilities for the most part. Instead, the game focuses on who they are as individuals and their relationships with Hisao and the other characters. Hanako's route is perhaps the one exception because she has so much unresolved mental scarring to go along with her physical scars and she is more dependent than the other LIs, but I still would be reluctant to call her route fetishized.Idk this stuff seems like a cheap tear jerker to me, but people seem to love it. I guess it plays into the power fantasy of being dependable, when all the women need the PC's shoulder to cry on. But things like clinical depression, cancer and physical disabilities in a porn game are dangerously close to the fetishization of "damaged goods", where it's all about dependency, which is creepy af.
That's like every telenovela ever written. Melodrama is just not supposed to be very realistic or sensitive, it thrives on hyperbolic emotions by default. Children lose their parents until they reappear, people have accidents until it turns out everything was staged or the victim survived in the wilderness for ten years, sisters and brothers and loved ones get diagnosed with terminal illness till total remission due to their closeness to God or the power of love. And sometimes there is no salvation at all. I don't think we would ever consider this as fetishization in the context of a normal telenovela, only because AVNs are sexual in nature, we suddenly have this idea.But things like clinical depression, cancer and physical disabilities in a porn game are dangerously close to the fetishization of "damaged goods", where it's all about dependency, which is creepy af.
What you say is wise and true: I love your observations about human nature, how we process emotions, and how we tell each other stories.That's like every telenovela ever written.
Another solid update: _The Bite: Revenant_ is definitely one of my favourites at the moment.The Bite: Revenant's new chapter is outYou must be registered to see the links!
Those were very thoughtful ramblings, thank you for sharing them[...] Anyway. Don't mind me rambling. Have a beautiful Sunday.
I agree with everything you wrote, so take a second to think if Dream isn't just another developer doing the same thing. If someone is making a game just to get the most money out of it, they will focus on content that fulfills almost all the lewd imaginations of the players. An emotional story behind this makes no sense. As you said yourself, in the case of LoF you understood some things at the end. Someone will say that "BT's story is too much". I don't think so, it's real, it happens every day to everyone all around us. People know that cancer exists, but they ignore it but only until the moment cancer becomes a part of their lives. It could be exactly the same with Lily as with Cece. And considering that Cece wasn't just a cameo and Dream probably "bonded" with Drifty when it came to BT, it probably doesn't need more words. People like Drifty aren't stupid, they don't get along with everyoneAnd at the end of the story, after a fun and joyful summer spent at Lexie's house, reuinon at their old school, when everything seemed to be working out and getting better, suddenly bam! We are at the same point where it all began. And the final nail in the head is the author’s remark that Cece’s character has a real prototype.
This came as a shock to me and made me retrospect my view of the game and the characters. I replayed Cece's path, paying more attention to her words and facial expressions rather than her... um... assets. Damn, I was embarrassed that I thought the author was just trying to get attention with the Cece drama when he was telling the real story of how complex and dangerous some types of mental illness can be.
I never thought any less of Dream and his work. I noticed his game from the first release here, and I wrote the first review in the game's main thread.I agree with everything you wrote, so take a second to think if Dream isn't just another developer doing the same thing. If someone is making a game just to get the most money out of it, they will focus on content that fulfills almost all the lewd imaginations of the players. An emotional story behind this makes no sense. As you said yourself, in the case of LoF you understood some things at the end. Someone will say that "BT's story is too much". I don't think so, it's real, it happens every day to everyone all around us. People know that cancer exists, but they ignore it but only until the moment cancer becomes a part of their lives. It could be exactly the same with Lily as with Cece. And considering that Cece wasn't just a cameo and Dream probably "bonded" with Drifty when it came to BT, it probably doesn't need more words. People like Drifty aren't stupid, they don't get along with everyone
I know, he mentioned you somewhere before that you were one of the few players who didn't complainI never thought any less of Dream and his work. I noticed his game from the first release here, and I wrote the first review in the game's main thread.
You are not the only one. People are capable of creating all sorts of nasty things, especially when we're talking about AVNs, but Dream also said that there are boundaries everywhere and this is one of those that he won't cross no matter what. I don't even want to imagine something like that, as you said yourself, it's disgustingthe idea of making her lewdable or LI for her son feels disgusting and would completely ruin the game for me
A great update to Zero End. It is quickly becoming one of my favourite AVNs.oh Zero End new update is out on Patreon
totally forgot to mention it here
Patreon account is Stolenrose
The LoF cameo made me think that someone discovered a new fetish, when his peepee got hard at the parts of the game it wasn't supposed to. Maybe this is the start of some kind of melancholy porn genre.
Idk this stuff seems like a cheap tear jerker to me, but people seem to love it. I guess it plays into the power fantasy of being dependable, when all the women need the PC's shoulder to cry on. But things like clinical depression, cancer and physical disabilities in a porn game are dangerously close to the fetishization of "damaged goods", where it's all about dependency, which is creepy af.