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jufot

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The choice was between either Mythos or How to fix the future.. I decided for the latter.
And yay.., praise the whatever.., this one actually surprised me and I ended up liking everything about it. The writing, the whole cast, all the small details... Everything is just so well executed here imo...
My biggest problem with HTFTF is the MC's willingness to go along with everything. He gets kidnapped, forcibly drafted into a band of mercenaries (that's what corporate soldiers are), is told he's the only one he can fix a problem (with not evidence whatsoever) and is treated like absolute shit by some two-bit company dominatrix whose behaviour borders on sexual assault. So why is he OK with any of this? Why trust any one of these people? Especially Cathy, clearly the dev's favourite, who just parrots company propaganda to him? Then there is Liu Yang, who is a personal assistant, sex slave, and prostitute to the boss. She's actually ordered to fuck MC to make him more malleable, and he just goes along with it? It makes no sense! MC is clearly thinking with his dick, and that's just... eughh.

Which is why I play the game by actively rejecting anyone who toes the company line. From the future, that leaves only Riley, who understandably gets mad at MC if he's honest with her. I do like that she hates the company. She sees the agents as little more than well-paid, corrupt rapists, and for good reason.

Besides Riley, Chloe and BJ are great! Neither cares for the rules of their kidnappers, and Chloe especially is rebellious. The three of them are the only reason I keep playing, to be honest :)
 
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My biggest problem with HTFTF is the MC's willingness to go along with everything. He gets kidnapped, forcibly drafted into a band of mercenaries (that's what corporate soldiers are), is told he's the only one he can fix a problem (with not evidence whatsoever) and is treated like absolute shit by some two-bit company dominatrix whose behaviour borders on sexual assault. So why is he OK with any of this? Why trust any one of these people? Especially Cathy, clearly the dev's favourite, who just parrots company propaganda to him? Then there is Liu Yang, who is a personal assistant, sex slave, and prostitute to the boss. She's actually ordered to fuck MC to make him more malleable, and he just goes along with it? It makes no sense! MC is clearly thinking with his dick, and that's just... eughh.

Which is why I play the game by actively rejecting anyone who toes the company line. From the future, that leaves only Riley, who understandably gets mad at MC if he's honest with her. I do like that she hates the company. She sees the agents as little more than well-paid, corrupt rapists, and for good reason.

Besides Riley, Chloe and BJ are great! Neither cares for the rules of their kidnappers, and Chloe especially is rebellious. The three of them are the only reason I keep playing, to be honest :)
Jufot you have to let go here, just breathe=)
Yes, you're right, this is a wild mix of so many things and if you're a cynical person (like I am in RL) then you could question alot of things. But that's not what this game is about (from my perspective). This game just wants you to take along for the ride and it does it so damn well imo. This is a whacky, corny, porn, future, scifi, adventure, nonsense AVN. And if in this fictiional story a "dominatrix" (unlike many i for one liked her btw) rules over everything and has a "sex slave" then by all means go for it mr developer, godspeed... I didn't feel offended by anything in this game. It was the complete opposite actually. And as for Liu Yang, wasn't there like this conversation between them where she tells the MC how she grew up and how much she likes her role of being a sub?. I think in that conversation a specific path gets hinted for the player which i personally liked. So no hard feelings for her groping me once inappropriately (which i think is also avoidable).... Same for Octavia. In my run (sub route, without obeying her completly right from the start), other than the start where she gets introduced as this mega controlling mistress type of person, i got nothing other than positive vibes from her (i truly mean that). I guess in the end it's all a matter of perception and interpretation. While you got negative, rapey, sexual harassment vibes from the game. I found it absolutely adorable and overall pretty wholesome =\ . Maybe i'm sick in the head? could be=) Just as a random thing. I played the pure virtue route so the MC havent had sex with anybody outside the femdom scene...
 
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Jufot you have to let go here, just breathe=)
I did just now :D

But that's not what this game is about (from my perspective). This game just wants you to take along for the ride and it does it so damn well imo. This is a whacky, corny, porn, future, scifi, adventure, nonsense AVN. [..] I guess in the end it's all a matter of perception and interpretation. While you got negative, rapey, sexual harassment vibes from the game. I found it absolutely adorable and overall pretty wholesome =\ . Maybe i'm sick in the head? could be=) Just as a random thing.
I don't think you're sick in the head at all! I think we were expecting very different things from this game and while you've found what you were looking for, I haven't. I am glad you're enjoying it :)
 

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I did just now :D


I don't think you're sick in the head at all! I think we were expecting very different things from this game and while you've found what you were looking for, I haven't. I am glad you're enjoying it :)
Yeah, this games basically screams for different opinions because it's so far out there story and content wise.
 

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Slightly off topic, but not quite:

can anyone suggest any games that fall into the category of

"It would be on this list except...."

Basically games that fall maybe 1 criteria off from being eligible - they're close, but not quite.
I find one of the best methods is just following this thread or read it again. There are a lot of good suggestions here spread out. If someone were to put together a list of all suggested games and jufot:s main reasons for rejecting it would be awesome. But I'd say it is too much work. :)
 
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Sad news. Camp Klondike has been put on hold indefinitely :( The developer says it takes too much time to develop, that he has other projects he needs to focus on, and that with the last update the story is in a good place for an extended hiatus. Patreon will be paused, and he doesn't know if/when development will resume.

Such a shame. It's a very unique AVN with many fans on this thread...
 

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I've read the AVN Shale Hill secrets over the last couple of days

What a long ass, fucking game.... I don't know how many hours it took me to get to the end of the last chapter, but it's been a few... So was it good?, bad?, ugly? something in between?

Apparently this AVN is developed by more than one person and it thankfully doesn't show. The production value is overall pretty high. Good visuals, above average lewd animations, very good usage of ambient sound, decent writing (most of the time that is).

The game is pretty story driven/heavy which is a good, but also not so good thing. I'm not gonna go too much into it, but it's kind of a blown up, conspiracy, corruption, secret computer programs, whatever story.. Overall a bit too much for my taste considering they're all supposed to be just college students.. But the slightly too convoluted story isn't the main problem here. The "problem" is that the other part, the "dating sim" part, takes a bit of a backseat at times. It builds up until you have sex with your LI, but like in most AVN's it doesn't go further until probably very late in the game which is obviously quite common in AVN's, but in this game i'd say it's a bit of a wasted opprtunity. I think a better mix of story and "dating sim" (i hate that word) would make for a slightly better game experience. Especially here where the MC is just so busy all the time trying to make sense of what's happening around him..

I've stumbled over more than 1 occasion where the writer missed out on an opportunity to make it a little more personal/intimate. (imo) For example
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To be fair though, i don't know how far we are in this story and how things will develope...Maybe we're still in the early stages? That'd be fucking crazy considering the lenght of the game..

The female cast here is somewhat diverse. I mean there are some stereotypes, but at least they tried to give most of them a little spin to their overall persona. Alexis for example or Alexa?. She's like this bitchy kind of person who insults the MC all the time and tries to take advantage of him for her own agenda.. I didn't like her and that's a good thing in my opinion. She's written consistant which is the most important part here. Or Maggie who's interesting just due to the fact that she's probably the shyest girl ever written in an AVN... It's almost a bit too much, but the writer was clever enough to give her some character growth after a certain point (And yes, that certain point has something to do with the birds and the bees..)

In my run i went for Maggie and Emily, the MCs ex girlfriend. Kind of an odd choice because, even though she's the first person who has a lewd scene in the game, she clearly gives the MC the vibe of her being over him for good and that she has "outgrown" him or something like that..
There's also Leah your "roommate". It was kinda late in the game when i stumbled over a menu in the game where you can change the MC's relationship with her. So yeah, she's definitely supposed to be your sister which makes alot more sense within the story while reading it...

One thing that bugged me a little in this game is the good ol white knighting. You end up helping basically every single girl with something... Well, at least the motives here for doing so aren't the same as in most AVN's. Here you help mostly for the sake of helping.. but it's still abit annoying.

So what's the verdict?. I only played one route, so there are alot of aspects i can't really comment on, but overall it's a pretty solid AVN with a passable plot (so far) and some pacing issues here and there...
 
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Karlsson's Gambit is a good example, actually. Femdom as a sexual kink is interesting to me, but in AVNs it's not about sexual domination at all, it's all pseudo-slavery / indentured servitude nonsense. Estate: Dominate is equally guilty of this. I can't play these games long enough to judge the quality of their story because I get bored/annoyed very quickly :/
I also played KG because i also like femdom:p But as jufot already said, F95 femdom is often times told in those extreme scenarios. In KG's case i was really hyped at first when the game started. The whole prison segment, the choice system, the dialog... I really digged it up until the game introduced that one Lady who threw some slave dude over board for..reasons? :p.
From that point onwards my willingness to submit to some sexy pixel ladys changed to me wanting revenge and murder everyone of them :p. Sadly you can't do that...I don't remember everything, but at some point i think you're even fucking one of those girls where the MC knew about her having killed some people...

KG also drowns you with every fetish in the book basically, but for some reason i never felt truly dominated in that game..It felt more like meanie girls doing meanie things to people. That being said though, if you're looking for some extreme femdom fantasies with in this case a dystopian setting i'm sure this is as good as it gets. And i would still rate it 5 stars even though i didn't like it. You have to be very blind not to see the amont of detail, work and love that went into making this game...

I think the main problem with femdom games on this site in general (at least for me personally) is that they "all" follow the typical AVN story telling scheme. Lots of women, lots of fetishes and what ends up happening is that you never establish some sort of a relationship with any of them because, like i said, they're all just catering towards a fetish, but rarely they feel like actual Mistresses.
Yes, that hard non-con stuff's pretty typical for femdom. Not just straight femdom, it's also like that with many lezdom games. In Mistress vs Slave for example, the protagonist repeatedly abuses and manipulates the elf princess, has to pimp her out to a creepy general and tortures an orc captive at length in order to get queen regnant ending even on the nicer domme route.

It may be a case of a small market, especially for lezdom games, and I suppose most male consumers of the femdom genre prefer the mistresses to be very cruel. Wouldn't surprise me if most of the lezdom games are also built for the male gaze in the first place anyway.

Ladykiller in a Bind is a lezdom black swan in that the two dedicated love interests are one hundred percent consensual, apart from the impersonation part I guess. Though there are two straight non-con events that are easy to miss (the Hero/Beast (MC) needs to spend two nights each with the Princess/Beauty and the Stalker/Hacker, then she is either raped by the Rival/President or dominates the Boy/Flower in a rather vicious way, this leads to the truple ending too). Btw, it also has a 'route' where the Hero/Beast is deliberately betrayed by another person, something that's also come up here I think.

Alright, so The Seven Realms is off the list after this latest update. I gotta give it to the dev, he went much further than most to create a story justification for the harem. He deserves some kudos for that. But still, this chapter dialled up the porn logic to 11. Add to that the LI agency problems we've discussed here before (they're even worse now), it's enough to be booted off the list.

It's still a good game, mind you, just not one that fits my criteria :)
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I did just now :D


I don't think you're sick in the head at all! I think we were expecting very different things from this game and while you've found what you were looking for, I haven't. I am glad you're enjoying it :)
God I love the way that you interact with people here. You go after games, and not the people that play them, and you want people to enjoy what they enjoy!

Keep rocking the fuck on Jufot!

Edit: and yeah, I don't know what HTFTF is, but I assume that there's a lot of non-con in it from your description, so I should probably avoid it for the sake of my mental health.
 

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2 - Summer Scent
Hey there jitter, how's it going? First of all, it's cool that you can finish a VN in like a week. With my attention span, I usually play a chapter or so of a game at once, and then don't touch it again for like a month or more, often way more than a month. It's a really bad habit that I'm trying to break. My favorite COMPLETED ADULT vn is pretty damn short, but I still haven't finished it, which really sucks.

Also, cheers for your love of Summer Scent. It's my favorite incomplete visual novel. As I said to Jufot, I generally need to avoid stuff with mass s. assault for the sake of my mental health, but I did the first 5 or so days of the good paths for both girls, and I have never have found a more relatable MC.

Like I've told the author, I'm willing to wait forever for them to complete it, but
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I don't know what HTFTF is, but I assume that there's a lot of non-con in it from your description, so I should probably avoid it for the sake of my mental health.
The game is How to Fix the Future. You should play it! It maybe has non-con in the strictest sense of the term, but by porn standards it's extremely tame. My primary objection is that MC's behaviour makes no sense for a human being with a functional brain. But! If instead you think of MC as not a person, but merely the fleshy life support system of a horny penis, everything will make perfect sense :LOL:
 

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But! If instead you think of MC as not a person, but merely the fleshy life support system of a horny penis, everything will make perfect sense :LOL:
Reading your comment made be speedrun most of the game real quick again (good guy, sub route route) just to see if i was tripping the first time or didn't read everything or something.. But despite the story still being as realistic as it was before. I'm sorry, but i just couldn't find much horndog stuff. So can you please refer to what scene you exactly mean by that? I don't get it. Isnt' the MC to some degree the opposite of a horndog? I haven't had any inner monologue like..

Oh god, she's so hot, i'll do her., i know i will..
Omg her tits.. I wanna press my dick between them...
I can't stop getting hard....her panties, oh god

Where is this kind of dialogue in this game? Is it when you go the maledom route or something?

The most outragous thing i found was :
Wanna look at Cathy her ass? yes/no YES
MC: Damn she has a fine ass..

Don't get me wrong, i'm not here to defend the game (i couldn't care less), but your reference of him being "the fleshy life support system of a horny penis" is a little weird to me. What makes that other MC's?
 
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I'm sorry, but i just couldn't find much horndog stuff. So can you please refer to what scene you exactly mean by that? I don't get it. Isnt' the MC to some degree the opposite of a horndog?
The way I see it, the only reason why a person in MC's situation would cooperate with Cathy, Octavia etc. is because he's thinking with his dick. He has no reason whatsoever to trust these people! They kidnapped him. They gave no proof for any of their claims! He has simply been forcibly drafted into a mercenary group primarily (and conveniently) consisting of hot women :) If not for his dick, why else would he make friends with them?

Also, what about that latest scene with Riley? She doesn't trust him (because she thinks he lied to him) and they conveniently end up in a broom closet while she was running away from the authorities. He makes a token effort to ask her what the fuck is going on, but she deflects by offering sexual favours and he... just goes along with it. I mean, what? If that's not "thinking with your dick" I don't know what is :)
 

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Alright folks, I have a new recommendation: Leaving DNA! It's just a somewhat lengthy demo for now, so take it with a pinch of salt.

The game is a police procedural revolving around our MC (an assistant district attorney) and his long-missing father. There are some heavy themes involved, and the game opens with a fairly disturbing scene (though, thankfully, not graphic) so keep that in mind.

The writing is very good, as are the visuals and camera work. The dev pays a ton of attention to facial expressions and mannerisms, and it clearly paid dividends here. Small expressions convey emotion without words, often to great effect.

It helps that one of the characters, Jamie, is the cutest, most gorgeous LI I've seen in a while :p

If I had to complain at all, it would be that some women have massively oversized breasts for their frames, but that would be nitpicking.

I'll wait for another update or two before considering adding the game to the OP, but so far it looks very promising!
 
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The way I see it, the only reason why a person in MC's situation would cooperate with Cathy, Octavia etc. is because he's thinking with his dick. He has no reason whatsoever to trust these people! They kidnapped him. They gave no proof for any of their claims! He has simply been forcibly drafted into a mercenary group primarily (and conveniently) consisting of hot women :) If not for his dick, why else would he make friends with them?
(note, long time since I played HTFTF) I have a bigger problem with Octavia than MC. I can somewhat excuse MC with that he is confused and don't know what the fuck is going on. But I don't understand Octavia at all. She is like I have summoned you to save us. Please help us from getting destroyed. But more important you are going to be my sub. WTF! I just can't understand her at all.
Alright folks, I have a new recommendation: Leaving DNA! It's just a somewhat lengthy demo for now, so take it with a pinch of salt.
Sounds interesting, added to my list.
It helps that one of the characters, Jamie, is the cutest, most gorgeous LI I've seen in a while :p
Has it been that long since you looked at Elsa? ;)
 
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She is like I have summoned you to save us. Please help us from getting destroyed. But more important you are going to be my sub. WTF! I just can't understand her at all.
Right?? It makes no sense, except from a pure horniness perspective!


Has it been that long since you looked at Elsa?
Hahaha, touché! I don't see Elsa being dethroned anytime soon, and yes, it has been a while since I looked at her. However, my attraction to her is almost entirely cerebral. Yes, she is hot, but it's the brains and personality that draw me in. With Jamie, it's much more... physical :cool:

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Alright folks, I have a new recommendation: Leaving DNA! It's just a somewhat lengthy demo for now, so take it with a pinch of salt.

The game is a police procedural revolving around our MC (an assistant district attorney) and his long-missing father. There are some heavy themes involved, and the game opens with a fairly disturbing scene (though, thankfully, not graphic) so keep that in mind.

The writing is very good, as are the visuals and camera work. The dev pays a ton of attention to facial expressions and mannerisms, and it clearly paid dividends here. Small expressions convey emotion without words, often to great effect.

It helps that one of the characters, Jamie, is the cutest, most gorgeous LI I've seen in a while :p

If I had to complain at all, it would be that some women have massively oversized breasts for their frames, but that would be nitpicking.

I'll wait for another update or two before considering adding the game to the OP, but so far it looks very promising!
Thanks Jufot, that's very nice of you.
 
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The game is How to Fix the Future. You should play it! It maybe has non-con in the strictest sense of the term, but by porn standards it's extremely tame. My primary objection is that MC's behaviour makes no sense for a human being with a functional brain. But! If instead you think of MC as not a person, but merely the fleshy life support system of a horny penis, everything will make perfect sense :LOL:
hehehe, oh my fucking god!

How tame are we talking?
 
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