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YesI am not sure if I understand the different routes. Is it based upon your decision if you have touched the sleeping Braden or not?
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I just realized thinking about your answer that now that the routes split in a significant way your workload will double. You're one of only a handful of gay devs out there and the only one (to my knowledge) writing an adult story that isn't gratuitous porn.
I hope you're doing well and that you take it easy but simultaneously am dreading the inevitably longer waits.
Sure. Adult content is nice as I enjoy it too but it has to make sense with the story. In this particular story, these characters are uncomfortable and have slowly and realistically been put into situations to change that over time. This is intended to emulate real life or give those who struggle with the same issues a little bit of confidence or a road map on how to slowly accept themselves in some capacity. I just refuse to compromise the story, characters, or the readers invested in the story just to see dick, ya know? And i think when we do see it, it's more meaningful.BUUUURRRN
Actually it's the opposite, things should be easier from here. The routes have always been split but the suggestions and some minors scenes throughout the game paved the way for the split that happens in v019. Basically i wanted to tell one linear story but have a few changes and suggestions that took place within the separate routes that set up two completely different perspectives of the exact same story. It's essentially the same events but two different ways of looking at them. So all the dialogue and stuff up to this point is very much purposely generalized so that it could apply to either route. It saved me having to write two completely different stories. But now that we know the difference, you can go back through and maybe catch some of the differences or references that the characters make that changes the tone of specific scenes.
At this point, the story will merge back together again and should be a lot easier writing than i've had to do in the past 2 or 3 updates
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Thank you so much for this update, I'm still going walkthrough
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" I don't take feedback seriously " i did not troll lol...But you as a dev of game looks like you cant take criticism
And you trying to not "get me of" Honey pls looks like some ppl want more sex sceness to "get them of" Pls crawl from same bridge you said i came out and make more sex content cause it looks ppl want some more
And you trying to not "get me of" Honey pls looks like some ppl want more sex sceness to "get them of" Pls crawl from same bridge you said i came out and make more sex content cause it looks ppl want some more
Again, since you're new: I take feedback fine. Actually, I'm super chill and I welcome critical feedback, it just needs to be supported and grounded within the brand and vision of the game purpose. Your feedback isn't and the entire forum thread here and my previous responses, in addition to the purpose of the game that I linked demonstrate this well. Also, it's still clear that you didn't read those.
But, just for the sake of making myself look like an ass, here's a public
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to an old post from my demo where I got my ass handed too me and it really helped out. I like showing my failures and what I've learned over the years because I think that's inspirational and a learning experience to other people. Plus, there's a ton of shitty devs out there that don't communicate with their supporters. I talk with mine daily because I take this project and the emotional reactions that people have to this project seriously. I also communicate daily with people who don't financially support the game because there's a million ways you can support a project aside from just giving money. I'm not in this to take people's money. If you don't believe that, you can look through any of the previous links or come secretly lurk on my Discord, it shouldn't take long to find out how far off base you are.Here's another link with feedback from
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that further demonstrates why your suggestion is unpopular and that most people are on board with the vision here that you disagree so vehemently with.This bridge stuff doesn't make sense so I'm going to ignore it.
By "ppl wanting some more" I think you mean you and the other 5 people that have mentioned that since 2017. We've already established that's an overwhelming minority. I'm doing something different here and I like that. I'm the one who puts in thousands of hours into each update so I choose to include the content that's important to me and the characters that I care about. You don't have to like that and that's fine. There is and will continue to be sexual content when it makes sense and not before. Clearly the purpose of this game has been lost on you and that's fine--although, I wish it wasn't because I really do wish that people would see the real intent to this. But, I understand that it's not for everyone to sit down and think critically about an adult game.
But I also think if you're going to post on a forum and slam my methodology, that you should do a little research to see if there's any validity to your criticism. In this case, there's not so I'm not going to argue with you. In general, this game may not be for you.
There's a huge number of people that this story has made the intended impact on and I appreciate that and it means a lot to me. That's why the game is free; to reach anyone. I'm not trying to get rich and most of the profit I've made goes right back into the game because it costs thousands to make this. I get fan letters constantly about how it helped put things into perspective, helped people come out to friends and family, or gave a voice to feelings they have had all their life--that's what's important to me and I've clearly stated that just about everywhere. It's not to get you off or include random sex content just because that's your conceptualization of what an adult game is. Sometimes there's more to relationships than just fucking.
So again: if you don't understand the purpose of the game because you haven't researched it, I'm not going to take your suggestions and feedback seriously. That doesn't seem unreasonable.
Thank you so much for this update, I'm still going walkthrough
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Ash is fucking nuts. He's soooo much fun to write. It's like shutting my filter completely off. It's fun to see his arc and how he's apparently the fan favorite now on the Patreon and Discord.Note to self: Don't make your supporting characters better than the actual lead ones. Oops
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I love this game and in the end I said I also love the creator. Thank you thank you for all the feelings you made me feel, please do not abandon it I need to know how the story will continue
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Aaryn you sir, are a monster. The most conniving, devious, mischievously devilish monster.
In January of 2019 I asked about that damn phone and what was Braden looking at... (yes I searched the thread) I should have known... I should have knooooooown. But I didn't. And that makes it ten times better. And if, me remembering wtf I asked 2 years ago, isn't proof of a good story and fantastic characters... I don't know what is.
I enjoyed the update, never doubted the quality of it for a second. It was a rolerkoster, from beginning all the way to the last frame. And the ending... Perfection. That frame of the only one who could spot a loophole... Brilliant. I was freaking speechless. That being said, I still want to know what else Braden hides on that phone.
Played both paths, as I always do, so that I don't miss anything. Wasn't disappointed.
I said it many times, you're awesome. Can't wait for the next update.
I hope you're doing well, and staying safe during these crazy plague times.
PS. There is a typo when during the argument Zack and Braden turn to Ash and tell him to "shut up the fuck up"
In January of 2019 I asked about that damn phone and what was Braden looking at... (yes I searched the thread) I should have known... I should have knooooooown. But I didn't. And that makes it ten times better. And if, me remembering wtf I asked 2 years ago, isn't proof of a good story and fantastic characters... I don't know what is.
I enjoyed the update, never doubted the quality of it for a second. It was a rolerkoster, from beginning all the way to the last frame. And the ending... Perfection. That frame of the only one who could spot a loophole... Brilliant. I was freaking speechless. That being said, I still want to know what else Braden hides on that phone.
Played both paths, as I always do, so that I don't miss anything. Wasn't disappointed.
I said it many times, you're awesome. Can't wait for the next update.
I hope you're doing well, and staying safe during these crazy plague times.
PS. There is a typo when during the argument Zack and Braden turn to Ash and tell him to "shut up the fuck up"
Aaryn . Please don't let the naysayers get to you. There are plenty of us here that truly believe in you. Your dedication and talent are greatly appreciated. I know it may sound strange since we really don't know you personally and your work is only a small glimpse of the real you. I don't have the right to speak for everyone and wouldn't want to but just know that there are some of us out here that love you and your work and we got your back. I have popped on here a few times to add my two cents but I know my words can never express just how much you and your work means to many of us and how deeply it has touched our hearts and souls. Wish you the absolute best in this journey of life.
lmfao. Dont hate me!! if it makes you feel better, i really do feel bad about tricking people (or trying to, anyway) for the last few years on a lot of that stuff. Ironically, this forum is the only place on the internet where I posted a spoiler for that route back on day one. Since then, peole have only asked about that "corruption" tag like twice. At one point, someone started to debate and complain on whether it should be removed. I just dodged the question and played it off that I didn't really like lables (which I obviously don't) but in reality I always thought it needed to be there. I guess I wanted to fool all the people playing the game just for the sake of being pervy. That just sounded fun to me and I hadn't seen it done before so I figured what the hell. I know some people won't play the pervy route for their own reasons and my biggest regret about that is that they get to see less Ash. I still can't read that gymnasium scene with him in it without shaking my head.Aaryn you sir, are a monster. The most conniving, devious, mischievously devilish monster.
In January of 2019 I asked about that damn phone and what was Braden looking at... (yes I searched the thread) I should have known... I should have knooooooown. But I didn't. And that makes it ten times better. And if, me remembering wtf I asked 2 years ago, isn't proof of a good story and fantastic characters... I don't know what is.
I enjoyed the update, never doubted the quality of it for a second. It was a rolerkoster, from beginning all the way to the last frame. And the ending... Perfection. That frame of the only one who could spot a loophole... Brilliant. I was freaking speechless. That being said, I still want to know what else Braden hides on that phone.
Played both paths, as I always do, so that I don't miss anything. Wasn't disappointed.
I said it many times, you're awesome. Can't wait for the next update.
I hope you're doing well, and staying safe during these crazy plague times.
PS. There is a typo when during the argument Zack and Braden turn to Ash and tell him to "shut up the fuck up"
So yeah, thanks for the love. I appreciate that. Sorry I fucked with your head for 2 years. muh bad
And hope you're safe too. World is crazy. Honestly, i hope all yall are safe out there.
And thanks for the heads up on the typo. i'll check it out. I always miss like a million of those. I swear, the first half of this game was people just making fun of me because I couldn't spell "embarrass". I messed it up every.single.update.
aww. hey thanks a lot. I really do appreciate the support. I put a ton into this project and tbh, I write this anonymously so I can be honest about my feelings through the characters. Interestingly, the people that have played this game probably know me on an existential level more than most people that know me in real life (there's a few exceptions since I have close friends that play the game, too). There's a ton of scenes in this game that are just 100% me unfiltered: good and bad. You don't have to worry about me stopping the project, it'll be finished, I've made sure of that (although devs say that shit all the time and then bail towards the end). I owe it to myself and those that have supported and the characters themselves to have some closure with this. You absolutely cannot make a slot burn game and then bail. That shit is not cool.
We only have a few updates left before it's done so it's close. I'm both scared and intimidated by that process as well. This last update was the hardest one to write so it took a long time. Since I think I'm still new to this whole dev process thing, I'm still learning and I dont think people understand how involved it can be. However, i do think it would be a lot easier to just make a straight up fuck-fest porn game. The writing is easier, no one cares about the depth--that shit would be easy. But there's soooo many games already like that (less in the gay genre admittedly) and I want to do something different. That's my vision and I'll stick with it. I've stuck with it this long and it's meant a lot to thousands of people--my DMs, this forum, the Discord, the Patreon (both free and Patron versions), and itch demonstrate that. There's a platform here to try and help some people out and I like having that opportunity and so far it's worked-- you can't put a price tag on that; especially how negative the world has been in the last few years. I realize not everyone will be open to that. Not everyone wants their porn games to be a parable but I'm cool being niche and I'm cool making less money on my project because it's not shallow. It just means more to me and if you're going to spend thousands of hours working on something and share it with other people, that shit should mean something, ya know?
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I have expressed my love for this game many times. Hell it’s in my signature. I appreciate/respect/love that you have created something that is not the norm for the genre. And that you are seeing it through.
I think it shows that we can be discriminating in our games and perhaps demand a little bit more story in our fuck fests. Your game is not the only game of the genre with a story, but it is stand out for the quality of that story.
I hope it inspires other developers and future developers to put plot first before they sprinkle in a little bit or a lot of porn.
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I do think the adult genre is sorely lacking and that's not because I think I have talent (I still have absolutely no idea what i'm doing here and will continue to say that for probably years to come. lol). But from a creative standpoint, there are virtually zero limits on the adult genre and current sites like Patreon and Subscribestar have almost zero limits themselves. Gone are the days where people had to convince a wealthy studio executives that their story mattered. You can simply just publish your shit now and see if people get behind it. The adult genre is almost limitless, though. If you can put porn in something--you can literally do ANYTHING with your characters creative wise and that's a powerful way to tell a story. I just like that and I appreciate this medium and that's how I view it.
I appreciate the long-term support. I know a ton of you have been here a long time--although a lot of people have moved from here to the Discord and Patreon so there's not as much traffic here as there used to be.
But I am excited because there are no new VNs that are coming in the future that were specifically inspired by this game that capitalize on the slow burn and focus more on story and that's pretty dope to kinda be at the forefront of that--even if I catch some attitude from horny people along the way. At the same time, I guess I dont blame the horny people all that much because that's what they're used to. They've been conditioned to expect porn in adult games so some of them get bent out of shape when they done get that. That's not my problem though, that's the genre. I'm not compromising the vision of my own story just because the genre was too narrow before it. I just think it's funny that there's still people out there that think I'm milking when I literally release the game myself for free and actively encourage people not to donate if they're not in a position to do so. I'm cool moving the goal posts a bit and if people wanna follow me, I'm down for it. If they don't, that's fine too. I just like some heart in this stuff I guess
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You have a big heart, you made me cry. I already started the game again as I reread the best books I’ve read. I have no words, in a world where sex is free without passion and there is no empathy, this is a small masterpiece. Maybe my English is not the best excuse I’m Italian and also I started to create a game for a short time and I see the time the patience and passion that it takes to do it, I hope only in the end will come out a nice game at least 50% compared to yours. love and respect
well, thank you for your kind words. I seriously appreciate that (and your English is more than amazing). I'm glad you appreciated the empathetic take on all this. It's definitely not perfect and I still have a long way to go to make it what I really want it to be. But it's still moving in that direction. You be safe on your side of the world, man. The world is crazy right now and I wish you love and respect as well
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I finished playing with it for the second time. And my eyes became damp even before I started to read the words. beautiful. I have a little question, maybe my English, or maybe it’s a little bug... in the Wrestling Gym scene towards the end when Zack and Braiden clear up a scene appears that Zack finds Braiden in the bathroom stall... with his cell phone in his hand. But that scene, even though I tried to do it in reality, didn’t happen to me, even though I made two different choices, I wanted to see if there’s only one route? or maybe it’s a little bug. I love all the characters and I don’t know how you will continue and I’m curious, just please do not neglect the little Cody that when he stayed in the Sauna and they all left.. My heart has tightened I think I’ll take a little break and then I’ll read it again. being non-Italian or American I see different facets every time and I noticed some small typos (overturning some letters) that led me to search for all the terms that could have been, to better understand it hahah not simple for a foreigner to the language, but I fucking love this game and I had to do it.well, thank you for your kind words. I seriously appreciate that (and your English is more than amazing). I'm glad you appreciated the empathetic take on all this. It's definitely not perfect and I still have a long way to go to make it what I really want it to be. But it's still moving in that direction. You be safe on your side of the world, man. The world is crazy right now and I wish you love and respect as well
Heya. So that stall pic you're talking about has given me some fits. There's something messed up with that and I haven't figured out how to fix it yet but you're right. Apparently that doesn't appear like it's supposed to. For now it gives the same tone I think because that scene can happen in both routes. While I really like releasing the game episodically like I have been, sometimes it causes some fits like this one. This happened one other time and it took me while to figure it out with the coding and narrative. But yeah, you're not crazy, something isn't right with that. If you see typos, let me know. I'm always down to fix those too. I'm terrible at finding my own typos in this thing for some reason