snork42

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Was befuddled at the Sasha and Gigi hate...had them as my favorites. Then day 19...now they should be spaced. But also MC is an ass for putting up with that shit...walk out at the first moment of the roast and then don't talk to them until they literally crawl for forgiveness. Then their horrific reaction to his response...now, no forgiveness possible. Not sure I can enjoy the game after that...and he is still going to trust one of them with Paige info! makes me hate him too.
 
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Bloodguard

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So... let's get to some points:

It's not like the MC is abusing, deceiving and taking advantage of a totally innocent and inexperienced person (like a Lira, for example)...

Tiffany has been acting like a "bratty" since day 1. Not only with the MC, but also with the most dominant character on the ship, Camila. So, from my point of view, it's clear that what Tiffany is looking for is NOT a "boyfriend" or "pure love" (like an Ariel, for example)... What Tiffany is looking for is to be disciplined, to be dominated, in a way, to the point of being humiliated. It's actually a more normal fetish than many people imagine.

I understand that many people consider Tiffany their favorite and, if the game offered the option, they would follow her path alone (although that's not what the game is about). We don't know much about Tiffany's past. This preference of hers may have an explanation in the past (daddy issues?) or it may simply be a personal preference. You need to understand that this exists. Like it or not.

At no point was it shown that Tiffany was deeply sad and/or feeling humiliated by everything that happened and how it happened. On the contrary. From what was shown, it seems that she was satisfied with everything, as if she had achieved her goal, something like "finally the MC reacted and did what I wanted/needed."
Just because someone has a "being abused is better than being ignored" fetish, doesn't make it right to take advantage of them. ;)
 

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Just because someone has a "being abused is better than being ignored" fetish, doesn't make it right to take advantage of them. ;)
It's not "taking advantage" if you're doing exactly what she wants you to do to her... she started the game until she got what she wanted. Have you thought about it from that perspective?
 

Bloodguard

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It's not "taking advantage" if you're doing exactly what she wants you to do to her... she started the game until she got what she wanted. Have you thought about it from that perspective?
Yep, but it still feels icky to me, like taking advantage of someone who is brain damaged or mentally ill. Another reason I really wish the MC had the option to NOT feed the sex addicted girl. Instead, she gets more unavoidable sexy time than any other girl in the game. :poop:
 

anon9gg

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It's not "taking advantage" if you're doing exactly what she wants you to do to her... she started the game until she got what she wanted. Have you thought about it from that perspective?
this is kinda like pushing a suicidal person off a bridge as a service, thats what they wanted after all, right?

as you said we don't know much about her so you cant claim for sure what she want, the mc never really bothered to have a real talk with her except during the intro scene at day 4
while the same mc tries so hard (and at cringe level sometimes) for some others like camila or skylar or ishani, he turns tiffany from li to hate interest in the back of the player

my perspective as the player matters too, if ive no control on important things that happen, im not playing a game anymore its the game playing me
afaik there is 0 choice for tiffany (laptop doesnt count), other characters are probably in the same position BUT they aren't treated like garbage: we slipped without any warning or option to avoid it, into content that isn't vanilla anymore
 
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ahtabom

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this is kinda like pushing a suicidal person off a bridge as a service, thats what they wanted after all, right?
Holy shit... what an absurd comparison!

We are talking about a SEXUAL KINK, a personal preference. There are dominants, there are submissives, switches and neutrals.

There are even cases where a person has an extremely dominant social position and/or profession, such as law enforcement officers, prison guards, fighters, and in their intimate, sexual life, they like to be submissive. The opposite is also true, for example, housewives, religious people who give off an air of innocence and chastity, but in their intimate, sexual life, they play an extremely dominant role.

These are absolutely normal things.
 

anon9gg

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i would agree if this was just rp like with aoi in second flashback: this stays WITHIN the lewd scene, mc doesn't trashtalk her afterward
but this goes beyond the scope of the lewd scene with tiffany, and i dont think that can be considered normal/vanilla


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i simply couldn't care less about "endangering" relationships ive no interest whatever in the first place
also its funny to consider the cafeteria scene as sexual assault, isn't like the mc didn't willingly let it happens
but again, all of this is beside my original concern raised: the lack of options (there should be one to stop that handjob for instance)
 
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i would agree if this was just rp like with aoi in second flashback: this stays WITHIN the lewd scene, mc doesn't trashtalk her afterward
but this goes beyond the scope of the lewd scene with tiffany, and i dont think that can be considered normal/vanilla
Your comparison is way off base, and you obviously have little to no frame of reference for a D/s relationship. You also obviously want to have a bias against the MC and his relationship with Tiff, because you're blatently ignoring everything that Tiff did to get the relationship to this point, including endangering the MCs relationship with others, intentionally placing others in situations that violated the MCs privacy, and were borderline sexual assault (the cafeteria handjob was or was close to NC, so yeah.) So she does all that and him treating her the way he does is suddenly horrible? Nah my guy, just nah.

Edit: Don't worry, MC is not actually doming her, or abusing her, he's just being her Rival.
 
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It's been released on steam so I expect to be fully abandoned here
it wont be lol. Steam may get the update first but it will still be here. If i had to guess, majority of players are still from here.
Is this game very difficult to clear? Is there a complete guide?
as far as im aware theres no complete guide. The only one i can think of is for the open floor/explore mini game/event you will see. The game has a "day loader" (i forget what its actually called) where you can pre pick story decisions and load into a day later in the story. For example,
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If you want to see what happens if you pick the opposite, you dont have to restart entirely and skip past everything up until that decision. You can pick and then start the day after that decision. So there's not really much point for a guide currently.
 
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