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True. There are a few games that did remake stuff and it didn't work out. But AFAIK, this dev hasn't really done anything to deserve such skeptism about their own remake? (I would actually like to know if they have). Sure, they could be accussed of the usual milking that people claim about every game, but anything other than that?



In terms of this game, I would actually like to see some of these things, and I know others here would like them too. I've never really liked Paige v1 and would prefer the dev to remake all of v1's scenes with v2. I don't think that is likely but a man can dream. I know people here have complained about the mini games and escape room before. I think the rework of the trivia battle game is a good example of what I said earlier (when a game's scope creeps with time) - the number of days you have to remember for the trivia battle is just too much over ~20 days compared to 5-10.
Dev hasn't done any rework type stuff that I can't remember but I wasn't here at day 1 or anything.

I agree about the trivia game. It's way too much info to try to recall. I would like to see some kind of journal or reference diary that tracks what happens on each day. Of course, that's more work on the dev.
 

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The only remake I want to see happen in this game is fixing the sisters route. Picking one of them doesn't make any sense to how the character has behaved in the game.

The real option should be to be able to choose neither of them not wanting to hurt either girl, let them settle their differences and come together to get the MC, especially since dev already said getting both girls is a viable option.
 

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The only remake I want to see happen in this game is fixing the sisters route. Picking one of them doesn't make any sense to how the character has behaved in the game.

The real option should be to be able to choose neither of them not wanting to hurt either girl, let them settle their differences and come together to get the MC, especially since dev already said getting both girls is a viable option.
The sisters relationship is kind of weird. The behavior did not match the outcames.
 
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The only remake I want to see happen in this game is fixing the sisters route. Picking one of them doesn't make any sense to how the character has behaved in the game.

The real option should be to be able to choose neither of them not wanting to hurt either girl, let them settle their differences and come together to get the MC, especially since dev already said getting both girls is a viable option.
I could actually see a bizarre (in-universe) situation where if you chose Ariel, you don't get Haylee in your harem because Ariel is jealous/freaked out by that relationship with her sister. But if you chose Haylee, she can pester Ariel to join in the harem and make it look ok.

Not saying I'd want that, but could be an in universe solution to getting both sisters in on it.
 
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so far its an interesting game with an interesting theme but man did you really have to go for a balding dreadlocked female AI ? :p so many hair options and tentacle dreads are the first option? maybe it would have looked better if there was not a massive bald patch but the current combo of the AI looks like nothing fits each other. other than that the game looks/plays great.
 
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so far its an interesting game with an interesting theme but man did you really have to go for a balding dreadlocked female AI ? :p so many hair options and tentacle dreads are the first option? maybe it would have looked better if there was not a massive bald patch but the current combo of the AI looks like nothing fits each other. other than that the game looks/plays great.
Don't worry, Paige gets an upgrade later in the game!
 

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Don't worry, Paige gets an upgrade later in the game!
well thats the issue. my brain keeps focusing on her that i literally cant get past the opening of the game. aka more of a distraction from the game than a addition. at least to me.
 

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The only remake I want to see happen in this game is fixing the sisters route. Picking one of them doesn't make any sense to how the character has behaved in the game.

The real option should be to be able to choose neither of them not wanting to hurt either girl, let them settle their differences and come together to get the MC, especially since dev already said getting both girls is a viable option.
The sisters relationship is kind of weird. The behavior did not match the outcames.
It's been extensively discussed both here and on Discord, well over a year ago, almost 2. The choice between the sisters is not the final outcome in their relationship with the MC. There's supposed to be more happening to bring them together. But it's gonna be in SiS 2, since there are only 2 game days left in SiS.
 

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It's been extensively discussed both here and on Discord, well over a year ago, almost 2. The choice between the sisters is not the final outcome in their relationship with the MC. There's supposed to be more happening to bring them together. But it's gonna be in SiS 2, since there are only 2 game days left in SiS.
Oh, I know. I've been a part of them extensively.

The simple fact that you have to choose between the two is what doesn't make sense at all in world, not that it wont get fixed in the end.

The MC spent the entire game doing everything he could to keep the peace, do right by everyone on the ship, and not stir up drama. The MC built up by the story 100% chooses neither sister to keep the peace even if it costs himself the relationship because it helps the greater good. It wouldnt have been hard to go from there with the sisters coming together and both settling on making things work out together.

But the dev chose to go against everything the MC had done up until that point to force a little extra drama into the story, when the end result is going to be the same anyways.
 

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Oh, I know. I've been a part of them extensively.

The simple fact that you have to choose between the two is what doesn't make sense at all in world, not that it wont get fixed in the end.

The MC spent the entire game doing everything he could to keep the peace, do right by everyone on the ship, and not stir up drama. The MC built up by the story 100% chooses neither sister to keep the peace even if it costs himself the relationship because it helps the greater good. It wouldnt have been hard to go from there with the sisters coming together and both settling on making things work out together.

But the dev chose to go against everything the MC had done up until that point to force a little extra drama into the story, when the end result is going to be the same anyways.
I think the basis for this situation is the difference in character between the sisters. Haylee is more playful, willing to share, and up for all kinds of fun. Ariel is inexperienced, and frankly just selfish in my opinion, with her head filled with pretty much a "Disney princess" fantasy about relationships. I doubt MC's past and development has anything to do with it, but in the end his disposition and charisma along with the sisters' desire to stick together, will be the key to bringing Haylee/Ariel (depending on the choice) back into the fold.
And of course, just like the MC I didn't want to make that choice, but I think it's set up like that to make the girls realize with time, that their stubborness will only cause pain later. They have to learn by themselves that making MC choose between them was a bad choice, especially since they know he's with others as well.
Also, let's not forget one detail. The game is big, so it may be forgotten sometimes, but MC has only known all the girls for less than 3 weeks. I think it would be boring, if he could win them all over straight out of the gate.
 

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Hello.
Render is Oksana with her new hair, a scene from Day 20.
I've decided to take a few extra days to polish up a handful of little issues with Day 20, namely, some animations and the writing in a few scenes.
New Patreon release is September 24th.
Can't give a specific time, but expect late PM EST.
Sorry for the delay, but we're close!
P.s from Viper will upload here on the 1st as long as no more delays popup and nobody else posts it beforehand.
 
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I think the basis for this situation is the difference in character between the sisters. Haylee is more playful, willing to share, and up for all kinds of fun. Ariel is inexperienced, and frankly just selfish in my opinion, with her head filled with pretty much a "Disney princess" fantasy about relationships. I doubt MC's past and development has anything to do with it, but in the end his disposition and charisma along with the sisters' desire to stick together, will be the key to bringing Haylee/Ariel (depending on the choice) back into the fold.
And of course, just like the MC I didn't want to make that choice, but I think it's set up like that to make the girls realize with time, that their stubborness will only cause pain later. They have to learn by themselves that making MC choose between them was a bad choice, especially since they know he's with others as well.
Also, let's not forget one detail. The game is big, so it may be forgotten sometimes, but MC has only known all the girls for less than 3 weeks. I think it would be boring, if he could win them all over straight out of the gate.
I don't really understand what point you are arguing. I understand the dev wanted you to pick a girl and have that drama/friction be what brings the girls together and eventually lead you to getting both of them.

I just don't think thats what the MC would actually do based on how he handled every other situation in the game so far. Like the Dev forced in drama when there was a clear path to get the same end goal of having both sisters in a way that completely makes sense in universe.

I think its poorly written, and just doesn't fit in with the story as is. It doesn't make sense for the MC to pick one sister and piss off the other one creating all the tension on the ship. The decision to pick one of the girls is extremely selfish for the MC, and exactly the opposite kind of person he has been up until that point.
 
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I don't really understand what point you are arguing. I understand the dev wanted you to pick a girl and have that drama/friction be what brings the girls together and eventually lead you to getting both of them.

I just don't think thats what the MC would actually do based on how he handled every other situation in the game so far. Like the Dev forced in drama when there was a clear path to get the same end goal of having both sisters in a way that completely makes sense in universe.

I think its poorly written, and just doesn't fit in with the story as is. It doesn't make sense for the MC to pick one sister and piss off the other one creating all the tension on the ship. The decision to pick one of the girls is extremely selfish for the MC, and exactly the opposite kind of person he has been up until that point.
Not exactly arguing, just sharing my thoughts.

And, not trying to be an a-hole here, but yeah, I can agree You don't understand what I say.
First - it is well written.
Second - he wants them both.
Third - THEY forced him to choose just one of them.
You keep saying, You don't think that's what MC would do, based on how he handled things before. The thing is, he told them what he wants and tried to convince them, they refused and forced him to choose. It had barely anything to do with how he "handles things". And there certainly was no "clear path", because Haylee and Ariel have completely different personalities and views on relationships.
Your response leads me to believe that You either played that part a long time ago and You forgot about it, or You skipped a lot of dialogues, but sorry if I'm mistaken about it.
And if they both agreed immediately to be with him, would it really be worth it? MC's development was steered towards conquest, so it makes sense for him to have at least a little challenge in bringing every available girl into his harem. Take Gigi, Camilla, Sasha or even Umiko (not to mention Ishani) for comparison. They fool around with him, but refuse to go all the way for as long as possible, despite their obvious desires. If it was so easy to convince two sisters to share him, Camilla would have probably spread her legs on that couch MC helped her carry during the first week.
 

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Not exactly arguing, just sharing my thoughts.

And, not trying to be an a-hole here, but yeah, I can agree You don't understand what I say.
First - it is well written.
Second - he wants them both.
Third - THEY forced him to choose just one of them.
You keep saying, You don't think that's what MC would do, based on how he handled things before. The thing is, he told them what he wants and tried to convince them, they refused and forced him to choose. It had barely anything to do with how he "handles things". And there certainly was no "clear path", because Haylee and Ariel have completely different personalities and views on relationships.
Your response leads me to believe that You either played that part a long time ago and You forgot about it, or You skipped a lot of dialogues, but sorry if I'm mistaken about it.
And if they both agreed immediately to be with him, would it really be worth it? MC's development was steered towards conquest, so it makes sense for him to have at least a little challenge in bringing every available girl into his harem. Take Gigi, Camilla, Sasha or even Umiko (not to mention Ishani) for comparison. They fool around with him, but refuse to go all the way for as long as possible, despite their obvious desires. If it was so easy to convince two sisters to share him, Camilla would have probably spread her legs on that couch MC helped her carry during the first week.
In my opinion, based on how the MC has handled every other "conquest" so far, he would have walked away from both after being forced into the ultimatum. He's so against stirring the pot that he wouldn't choose one girl over the other because he knows that it will just be drama.

Being honest, the choice is just like every other choice in the game, it's meant to block you from getting all scenes in one playthrough and encouraging replays.
 
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Not exactly arguing, just sharing my thoughts.

And, not trying to be an a-hole here, but yeah, I can agree You don't understand what I say.
First - it is well written.
Second - he wants them both.
Third - THEY forced him to choose just one of them.
You keep saying, You don't think that's what MC would do, based on how he handled things before. The thing is, he told them what he wants and tried to convince them, they refused and forced him to choose. It had barely anything to do with how he "handles things". And there certainly was no "clear path", because Haylee and Ariel have completely different personalities and views on relationships.
Your response leads me to believe that You either played that part a long time ago and You forgot about it, or You skipped a lot of dialogues, but sorry if I'm mistaken about it.
And if they both agreed immediately to be with him, would it really be worth it? MC's development was steered towards conquest, so it makes sense for him to have at least a little challenge in bringing every available girl into his harem. Take Gigi, Camilla, Sasha or even Umiko (not to mention Ishani) for comparison. They fool around with him, but refuse to go all the way for as long as possible, despite their obvious desires. If it was so easy to convince two sisters to share him, Camilla would have probably spread her legs on that couch MC helped her carry during the first week.
You writing this just clearly shows you are not paying attention at all to what I'm saying.

I explicitly said the "Correct" in universe choice for the MC would be to pick NEITHER girl. To keep status quo to not stir up the shit that happened by picking one. Your entire post is arguing a point I never made, and in fact the opposite of what I was saying.
 
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You writing this just clearly shows you are not paying attention at all to what I'm saying.

I explicitly said the "Correct" in universe choice for the MC would be to pick NEITHER girl. To keep status quo to not stir up the shit that happened by picking one. Your entire post is arguing a point I never made, and in fact the opposite of what I was saying.
I have to weigh in on the "respectfully disagree with you" side of this.

I think what you are suggesting is probably what the MC would want to do if he can't just have them both right now; but, he's a strategic thinker, and he knows that choosing one of them will be emotionally devastating for the other one, but will also likely be a salvageable situation, one that he's likely to be able to leverage to his advantage before too long. OTOH, he also knows that simply choosing neither of them in consequence of the ultimatum would just piss them off, making them feel that he was basically telling them to go to hell (even if that wasn't his actual intent), and might create some bad blood between them and even possibly cause him to lose them both.

If what I'm suggesting is true, then it comes down to which one is strategically the best choice, with ultimately getting them both into his harem as soon as possible in mind.

Just some food for thought...
 

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In my opinion, based on how the MC has handled every other "conquest" so far, he would have walked away from both after being forced into the ultimatum. He's so against stirring the pot that he wouldn't choose one girl over the other because he knows that it will just be drama.

Being honest, the choice is just like every other choice in the game, it's meant to block you from getting all scenes in one playthrough and encouraging replays.
Yeah, I wanted to walk away from both of them at one point, and let them realize how much they messed up, but no such choice in the game. The way they forced him to choose seemed a bit like they think they can order him around, and if they don't even try, why should he. On the other hand MC wanting both of them fits with his appetite, his life on Endurance, his past and his connection with Paige. And of course I myself would want him to earn that achievement of getting two hot sisters into bed together :ROFLMAO: . Just like mother-daughter combo with Claire and Lexi, or Claire-"damn I forgot the name of her redhead sister" in his past.
And thankfully the choices don't seem to change much about how things turn out in the plot or interactions. Mainly they're about MC's sexual escapades and girls' kinks/desires. I've kept to 2 playthroughs and it seemed enough.
 

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Yeah, I wanted to walk away from both of them at one point, and let them realize how much they messed up, but no such choice in the game. The way they forced him to choose seemed a bit like they think they can order him around, and if they don't even try, why should he. On the other hand MC wanting both of them fits with his appetite, his life on Endurance, his past and his connection with Paige. And of course I myself would want him to earn that achievement of getting two hot sisters into bed together :ROFLMAO: . Just like mother-daughter combo with Claire and Lexi, or Claire-"damn I forgot the name of her redhead sister" in his past.
And thankfully the choices don't seem to change much about how things turn out in the plot or interactions. Mainly they're about MC's sexual escapades and girls' kinks/desires. I've kept to 2 playthroughs and it seemed enough.
I did the same. I went through and just made choices based on how I felt at the time and then another playthrough where I reversed every decision.

Claire's sister is Celeste iirc.
 
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