patchman

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I don't think it's Ishani. To me, the culprit has been able to operate for 20 days without raising anyone's suspicion. If it weren't for Pandora's interference, I'm not even sure we would suspect anything was wrong. The fact that we found her modified records feels like sloppy work, almost deliberate. Besides, I find it hard to believe that the same person who avoided all suspicion until now would be caught so easily.

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Another assumption we all seem to be making is that Pandora is on our side. But I think Skylar was right to point out that her actions (like when she hacked Paige) don't paint her as an ally.
Everyone has been suspicious of Ishani the most, also the corrupted db being accessible from her room has also been a huge argument against her, her being an accountant of Synthstar would just make it certain and possibly that would be the clincher for Pandora should she arrive. She is the easy target. Also the scene about her getting angry about the operation of the mech and the moving of stuff in the bay just makes her more suspicious. But you can explain most of her behaviour away as a bureaucrat who likes knowing about things before they happen because her new found position on the Endurance and the task of conserving resources has made her a control freak. And a hacker that hacks the Endurance main system to corrupt it, can probably hack their way in and out of rooms (if on board the Endurance) or just straight up access it remotely (if not on board).

I also think Pandora is quite suspicious. For one, she can hack Paige within Endurance whose systems are down. Who's to say she didn't create this mess and tried to then act like the savior. If she has no idea of echo units and Skylar, then she might have been the one to fudge Ishani's record both times (like even before they were awakened) in order to create a possible scapegoat later on. We haven't exactly established Ishani actually worked/s for Synthstar yet. If someone can hack the Endurance mid-journey to create this mess, they could have also done it pre-flight and also mess with the manifest before they left. Skylar could only know the initial records for each person and notice the discrepancy after the recovery of the db only because she had been one of the first to awaken and had looked at the db early on, that doesn't mean the initial records were not tampered with.


The story so far (might have some tidbits overlapped, but is mostly accurate)

MC worked on the Nightclub, in there he gained a lot of self confidence and learned how to properly read and treat any female, while maintaining sexual relationships with practically all the female staff, from there he get into a relationship with that cute Goth girl (I'm not so good with the names, sorry), then they break up due divergence in their paths / career goals, then he get with Bethany, and is recruited to work on Mirsky, highly probably at his mother behest, unknowingly by him, Miranda set him in a path of going around the globe swooning any girl related to the company, and even his own step mother, in detriment of the relationship with his father and sister.

Bethany breaks up with him since he was actively cheating on her with at least 5 girls, however Miranda had already set in motion the AI projects, in which MC is a fundamental piece, MC understands that all the other girls are fundamentally his ego out of control, exploits for the sake of conquest, and maybe he did it unconsciously, since he learned to literally lure the females to sex, well... because he was practically groomed by the girls of the nightclub into a perfect seducing machine.

MC realizes that Bethany is the right one, he goes to talk with Miranda, to break the contract, and be free, Miranda informs him of the Echos, and he is introduced to 2 active ones, and the uncompleted body of Skylar, he get convinced of not break up with the compaly and to have the surgery procedure that will fuse P.A.I.G.E. with his brain, meanwhile Mirsky had already employed Bethany, to sweeten the deal for MC then after the surgery he is put into cryosleep and sent his merry way to Elsyum.
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you can easily see a psychology explanation on MC, having been abandoned by his mother, his innate need for female warmth, led him to seek love from all women around him, which eventually led him to being a manwhore as others describe him, but ultimately one that also cares for them. I can also see an explanation about how people like that, who have inclinations towards multiple sex partners initially reject the idea about themselves due to societal norms, try to go monogamous and end up failing miserably and also acting remorseful towards the victim. But they also come to terms with it eventually and instead go full honesty on everyone and into fully polyamorous relationships, embracing who they are and also care fully about all of them, thus satisfying their own needs for love and care. I won't profess that this is all valid science, but we've all seen this kind of reasoning before so it wouldn't surprise me if it's the reasoning here and why Bethany is such an issue for him. And being who he is, he still cares for her and would love to be with her.
 

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Everyone has been suspicious of Ishani the most, also the corrupted db being accessible from her room has also been a huge argument against her, her being an accountant of Synthstar would just make it certain and possibly that would be the clincher for Pandora should she arrive. She is the easy target. Also the scene about her getting angry about the operation of the mech and the moving of stuff in the bay just makes her more suspicious. But you can explain most of her behaviour away as a bureaucrat who likes knowing about things before they happen because her new found position on the Endurance and the task of conserving resources has made her a control freak. And a hacker that hacks the Endurance main system to corrupt it, can probably hack their way in and out of rooms (if on board the Endurance) or just straight up access it remotely (if not on board).

I also think Pandora is quite suspicious. For one, she can hack Paige within Endurance whose systems are down. Who's to say she didn't create this mess and tried to then act like the savior. If she has no idea of echo units and Skylar, then she might have been the one to fudge Ishani's record both times (like even before they were awakened) in order to create a possible scapegoat later on. We haven't exactly established Ishani actually worked/s for Synthstar yet. If someone can hack the Endurance mid-journey to create this mess, they could have also done it pre-flight and also mess with the manifest before they left. Skylar could only know the initial records for each person and notice the discrepancy after the recovery of the db only because she had been one of the first to awaken and had looked at the db early on, that doesn't mean the initial records were not tampered with.




you can easily see a psychology explanation on MC, having been abandoned by his mother, his innate need for female warmth, led him to seek love from all women around him, which eventually led him to being a manwhore as others describe him, but ultimately one that also cares for them. I can also see an explanation about how people like that, who have inclinations towards multiple sex partners initially reject the idea about themselves due to societal norms, try to go monogamous and end up failing miserably and also acting remorseful towards the victim. But they also come to terms with it eventually and instead go full honesty on everyone and into fully polyamorous relationships, embracing who they are and also care fully about all of them, thus satisfying their own needs for love and care. I won't profess that this is all valid science, but we've all seen this kind of reasoning before so it wouldn't surprise me if it's the reasoning here and why Bethany is such an issue for him. And being who he is, he still cares for her and would love to be with her.
This is a pretty good reasoning of the MC. He literally just goes from single and zero confidence to the strip club harem. Then gets fired for his own good, tries to solo date Ves. She literally when she needs to travel tells the MC he shouldn't be with just 1 women. She then tells him to hookup with her sister, join the stripclub server rekindle his stripclub harem, plus bang anyone else he wants too in the porn vr mmo. They break up then the MC tries to solo date Moxie i think(might not be her name but one of the strippers). That doesn't work out as he tells Lexi at the amusement park birthday party. When know thats when Miranda appoaches him and it seems he is single at that time. He then while working for Mirsky starts his relationship with Claire, starts dating Bethany, and recruits/fucks women all around the world. Building a harem consisting of Claire, Lauren, Jen, and Aoi at the very least.

I am working on piecing together the anmesia year timeline. Will post once i am done.

Edit: unless the Dev wasn't keeping track of all 4 time periods, the timeline for the anmesia year makes no sense or the MC is actually 22 and is missing 2 years.
 
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This is a pretty good reasoning of the MC. He literally just goes from single and zero confidence to the strip club harem. Then gets fired for his own good, tries to solo date Ves. She literally when she needs to travel tells the MC he shouldn't be with just 1 women. She then tells him to hookup with her sister, join the stripclub server rekindle his stripclub harem, plus bang anyone else he wants too in the porn vr mmo. They break up then the MC tries to solo date Moxie i think(might not be her name but one of the strippers). That doesn't work out as he tells Lexi at the amusement park birthday party. When know thats when Miranda appoaches him and it seems he is single at that time. He then while working for Mirsky starts his relationship with Claire, starts dating Bethany, and recruits/fucks women all around the world. Building a harem consisting of Claire, Lauren, Jen, and Aoi at the very least.

I am working on piecing together the anmesia year timeline. Will post once i am done.

Edit: unless the Dev wasn't keeping track of all 4 time periods, the timeline for the anmesia year makes no sense or the MC is actually 22 and is missing 2 years.
I'd be happy to take a look at this, you can even PM it to me so I can reference it, if you'd like. Keep in mind that the confusingly named Elysium content (Club Aegis and Vespera scenes) don't occur during his amnesia year.

I have a big patch I've been working on for a while now, and there are some funny, dumb-mistake inconsistencies I noticed that are related to the timeline.

In a few places, I embarrassingly made the 20th/21st century mistake.

Like if I say "I can't remember my 20th year of life" - I'm actually talking about the age of 19 to 20, since we start at 0 years old. These phrasing issues are fixed in the patch, since what I really mean is "life experienced once turned 20 years old."

But this isn't a timeline inconsistency; it's me not understanding basic math.
 

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I'd be happy to take a look at this, you can even PM it to me so I can reference it, if you'd like. Keep in mind that the confusingly named Elysium content (Club Aegis and Vespera scenes) don't occur during his amnesia year.

I have a big patch I've been working on for a while now, and there are some funny, dumb-mistake inconsistencies I noticed that are related to the timeline.

In a few places, I embarrassingly made the 20th/21st century mistake.

Like if I say "I can't remember my 20th year of life" - I'm actually talking about the age of 19 to 20, since we start at 0 years old. These phrasing issues are fixed in the patch, since what I really mean is "life experienced once turned 20 years old."

But this isn't a timeline inconsistency; it's me not understanding basic math.
I did a write up and DM'd it to MarsUltor yesterday. I can copy it and send it to you, i really only noticed anything because i was playing Aoi's scenes to see if there was any important info i missed.
 
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I'm finding it a little hard to wrap my head around the idea that there are multiple trillion dollar companies on Elysium, when the planet itself only has around 115,000 people on it. That is, unless each of the three big cities on the planet has one big corporate entity at it's core that employs a big portion of that city's population. I mean, don't big corps employ 1000s of people? It seems to me like they would. You hear about companies laying off 10 or 15 thousand people or more IRL.
 
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I'm finding it a little hard to wrap my head around the idea that there are multiple trillion dollar companies on Elysium, when the planet itself only has around 115,000 people on it. That is, unless each of the three big cities on the planet has one big corporate entity at it's core that employs a big portion of that city's population. I mean, don't big corps employ 1000s of people? It seems to me like they would. You hear about companies laying off 10 or 15 thousand people or more IRL.
the way i personally understand is this, to set up a company over there you have to be RICH RICH anyways. So i'm thinking its either some companies who might've opened a branch on elysium? that or just straight up moved everything over to elysium. I also think that there is one city that's more business than anything. A business disctrict could be another way to describe it? Another thing, the big companies we have seen in game so far, we havent seen that many people. Now to be fair, the parts we have seen are top secret in said companies so there's that as well.
 

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I'm finding it a little hard to wrap my head around the idea that there are multiple trillion dollar companies on Elysium, when the planet itself only has around 115,000 people on it. That is, unless each of the three big cities on the planet has one big corporate entity at it's core that employs a big portion of that city's population. I mean, don't big corps employ 1000s of people? It seems to me like they would. You hear about companies laying off 10 or 15 thousand people or more IRL.
My thoughts on this (from an "econ-geek" perspective):

Mirsky and Synthstar are "multiplanetary" companies, with a (presumed) significant multinational presence on Earth in addition to their Elysium presence. My guess is that they aren't supposed to be Apple/Amazon-level companies (top-5 and currently $Trillion companies), but more like Fortune 100-150 companies in the Intel/AMD range, with a market capitalization of about $200Bil in 2025 dollars. Now, apply about 120 years of inflation-induced dollar devaluation to that, and Mirsky and Synthstar would easily be $Trillion companies in 2167 dollars, and if they were top-5 companies like Apple and Amazon, then they would almost certainly be $100Trillion companies.
 

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says: how can anyone say no to this? Am I the only one who would say hell no! And maybe also shoot her and blow up the company?
 

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Who are the echos on the endurance? Also in relevance to mc gaining his memories back does he get them back no matter who he chooses to wake up?
 
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