Cogiworth

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I know it's been asked before but anyone know why currently there is still no subscribestar link? Other VNs of lesser quality are on there.
 

shitass1001

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Will those choices with Athena really matter in the future?
I imagine they will, and they already have to an extent: in the most recent update, if you choose to fight athena then you save Lumi, but Mercury dies. If you walk away, Lumi dies (I think), and mercury lives.
 

shitass1001

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Well shit. I don't want either to die, but I'm way more interested in Mercury.
I cant remember if we actually see Lumi die or not, when you choose to fight we see mercury explode, then see her dead body after, but I am pretty sure we dont see what happens to Lumi, so there is a chance he comes back (probably not, though). Also, remember that mercury, while she is alive, has been turned into a fury by Athena, so its hard to know if we will ever get her to be loyal to us, my guess is probably not.
 
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PtsZts

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Well shit. I don't want either to die, but I'm way more interested in Mercury.
I cant remember if we actually see Lumi die or not, when you choose to fight we see mercury explode, then see her dead body after, but I am pretty sure we dont see what happens to Lumi, so there is a chance he comes back (probably not, though). Also, remember that mercury, while she is alive, has been turned into a fury by Athena, so its hard to know if we will ever get her to be loyal to us, my guess is probably not.
Yeah, it's not showed what happens with Lumi, but he most likley got killed. Tbh, I stopped giving a fuck about Mercury the moment she became a fury.
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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Well shit. I don't want either to die, but I'm way more interested in Mercury.
If you didn't fight Athena the first time then you can negotiate and keep both of them alive. You can also cheat it with URM but I don't believe that helps for people playing on android as I'm pretty sure you do. If you know where your save directory is then you could use a save editor to change your against_athena value to 9 on
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screen or before and you'll be able to choose the negotiate option. Not sure if you can get around renpy save protection on android though even if you do edit it.
 
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TigerWolfe

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If you didn't fight Athena the first time then you can negotiate and keep both of them alive. You can also cheat it with URM but I don't believe that helps for people playing on android as I'm pretty sure you do. If you know where your save directory is then you could use a save editor to change your against_athena value to 9 on
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screen or before and you'll be able to choose the negotiate option. Not sure if you can get around renpy save protection on android though even if you do edit it.
I might just have to wait til the game's done and there's better understanding of all the variables. Not fighting her seems "wrong' to me, but maybe it's the "best" choice.
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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I might just have to wait til the game's done and there's better understanding of all the variables. Not fighting her seems "wrong' to me, but maybe it's the "best" choice.
Ya not fighting her in the town of the faceless god seems fucked to me, and not fighting her in the brothel town seems fucked to me but it seems that it's a case of doing the right thing has consequences. I'm running 2 saves personally, one where I fight her at the brothel town and one where I cheated to negotiate with her there.
Plus who knows if Mercury will even end up as a sub LI. If she doesn't then I'd rather have the entirely innocent Lumi live over the girl who'd already died once and ended up becoming basically a serial killer. Hell if Mercury had just made the choice to not enforce the fake curse just once against Lumi then none of the shit from the ending there would've happened.

There's also the issue that we just don't really know Athena. Like it's not right to be punishing people generations after the offense like she is but her motivations for everything have been justifiable to the generation she puts the two "curses" on. Then there's also her background. She isn't inherently evil, she's just been pretty well abused by her dad and more or less groomed and then abandoned by the MC's dad. I suspect that even if opposing her feels like the right thing atm it's going to rob her of the chance for redemption down the line. Still, at the moment she's doing objectively evil things, aligning with objectively evil people and entities and violently defending structures of unjustified oppression.
 

packor

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how about some plot twist where MC learns Rinne Tensei and just rez them all later, cuz why not?
 

PtsZts

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Yeah. Even if the outcome would give you now the option to negotiate, no fighting Athena in the town of the faceless god seems wrong to me too.
 

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If you didn't fight Athena the first time then you can negotiate and keep both of them alive. You can also cheat it with URM but I don't believe that helps for people playing on android as I'm pretty sure you do. If you know where your save directory is then you could use a save editor to change your against_athena value to 9 on
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screen or before and you'll be able to choose the negotiate option. Not sure if you can get around renpy save protection on android though even if you do edit it.
Mate, the MC name sends me :KEK:

I can only imagine Torr's reaction in Season 1 when she found out the reason for MC's name:
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