VN Ren'Py STWA: Unbroken [Pt. 7] [STWAdev]

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Rehwyn

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Just played this for the first time. How often are the updates?
I'm new here as well, but it looks like Part 6 was last September, and Part 5 was December 2022. So if that trend continues, about 9 months.

But yeah, as mentioned they're pretty big updates. Most AVNs doing 3-6 month updates usually have like 1000-1500 renders compared to the 4,000+ in Part 7 here.
 

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Hello beautiful people. Trying to do this as quick as I can today so you can get back to your days.
Finishing up early dev prep this week. I have one more set to finish building and lighting and one more new character to build. Once those two things are done we should be good to go on the asset front at least on my end, have one custom asset to commission but that's a pretty easy build so things should be quick on that front.
Started some script this week as well, getting our first scene written out. it's one I've had in mind for some time so the flow is pretty easy.
That's about where we're at update wise this week. Thanks to everybody who dropped in for our QnA this past weekend, it was lovely to chat with you. Some things came up that I said I would also mention in this week's update for those who weren't there.
Author Definitive Edition is waiting on a trailer to finish and final page approval from Steam, hoping to get that within the week or so and then the Steam page will be live, I'll let it do it's thing collecting wishlists, build a little hype but the hope is late October or early November for official release. Long term trusted Patrons and a few other folks will be getting the demo in their hands over the next few months and I'll probably pop out a public demo up once we get a bit closer.
With all that coming soon the OG Author downloads will be coming down by this time next week. Letting you know so if you're really fond of it you can make sure you have a version kept for yourself. I'm also not scrubbing it offline or anything silly like that, you'll still be able to get it in my discord if you want, but to help avoid confusion here I'm cleaning things up.
It's going to be a busy rest of 2024 here, I stated in the QnA that I really want to get Unbroken Part 8 out before the year is out so really trying to hit the ground running with this update. On that note time for me to get back to work.
Thank you as always for the support and I hope you have a lovely rest of your week.

Sláinte!
 

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Normally intelligence officers don't go killing people and we already know she's a killer. So no surprise there.

The thing that worry me is "suspicion" stuff. I guess it's about Elspeth though I'm not sure what. I wrote before that it was about Zaina'a death but that was Davis' doing. American Marines don't take orders from British Intelligence, and it's hella improbable to follow the chain of command between the armed forces of two different nations. Way too many red tapes and redactions.
What I meant was 'intelligence officer' was just the 'Title on the paper' but she was actually part of some 'assassin hit squad' later on, her partner being the 'bike fixing girl that went mia(who we saw gathering info about MC from that hackergirl)'
So its not JUST that she is a killer but a more MESSED UP sort of killer, she did what 'had to do' to get the job done tho.

EDIT: On a side note, it might be just me, but I prefer more static scenes that make it seem the 'sex' was more varied vs 1-2 animations for that 1 shot,
Like around the room or different positions and game def needs to add more kinks( initiated by the MC please)
 
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Hello beautiful people. Trying to do this as quick as I can today so you can get back to your days.

Finishing up early dev prep this week. I have one more set to finish building and lighting and one more new character to build. Once those two things are done we should be good to go on the asset front at least on my end, have one custom asset to commission but that's a pretty easy build so things should be quick on that front.

Started some script this week as well, getting our first scene written out. it's one I've had in mind for some time so the flow is pretty easy.

That's about where we're at update wise this week. Thanks to everybody who dropped in for our QnA this past weekend, it was lovely to chat with you. Some things came up that I said I would also mention in this week's update for those who weren't there.

Author Definitive Edition is waiting on a trailer to finish and final page approval from Steam, hoping to get that within the week or so and then the Steam page will be live, I'll let it do it's thing collecting wishlists, build a little hype but the hope is late October or early November for official release. Long term trusted Patrons and a few other folks will be getting the demo in their hands over the next few months and I'll probably pop out a public demo up once we get a bit closer.

With all that coming soon the OG Author downloads will be coming down by this time next week. Letting you know so if you're really fond of it you can make sure you have a version kept for yourself. I'm also not scrubbing it offline or anything silly like that, you'll still be able to get it in my discord if you want, but to help avoid confusion here I'm cleaning things up.

It's going to be a busy rest of 2024 here, I stated in the QnA that I really want to get Unbroken Part 8 out before the year is out so really trying to hit the ground running with this update. On that note time for me to get back to work.

Thank you as always for the support and I hope you have a lovely rest of your week.

Sláinte!
 

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her partner being the 'bike fixing girl that went mia(who we saw gathering info about MC from that hackergirl)'
Oh, thanks mate. I totally missed that.

What I meant was 'intelligence officer' was just the 'Title on the paper' but she was actually part of some 'assassin hit squad' later on, her partner being the 'bike fixing girl that went mia(who we saw gathering info about MC from that hackergirl)'
So its not JUST that she is a killer but a more MESSED UP sort of killer, she did what 'had to do' to get the job done tho.

EDIT: On a side note, it might be just me, but I prefer more static scenes that make it seem the 'sex' was more varied vs 1-2 animations for that 1 shot,
Like around the room or different positions and game def needs to add more kinks( initiated by the MC please)
I am with you with everything you said, including static images. BTW, Els shutting the trap trap door and hiding the safe... Things are becoming more and more suspicious. I really hope that Els hasn't done anything to hurt Valentine personally. For the consistency of the story Valentine can forgive, or even not care about anything Els done to other people. However I don't think he can get over a personal betrayal, for example the killing of Zaina. That might even lead to the demise of Valentine if he's on the Els + Infamy route. Though Els keeps telling "he is too important for me" but who knows. Maybe she doesn't know the tie, she doesn't expect Valentine to put things together, or she doesn't expect Valentine to blame her for something happened before they know eachother. Either way, I really don't expect Valentine to forgive her, which would lead into selfdestructive behavior, probably him being very badly injured or even killed, possible in the ring.
 
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So, is it a bug or Valentine and Kana supposed to be lovely dovely?
I guess this (7th) update was the point of where things are starting to change, except for Viridiana.

As those who plays the game already know that Valentine has a very bad reputation as a womanizer. And even those around him thought this is who he is. Yet from the get go of the game's 1st episode, they see a much different side of him. He acts like he doesn't care about anyone or anything, but in reality he genuinely does.

Viridiana already knew that, since she spent her childhood with him. He saved her from certain death, while risking his own life and sacrificing more.
Elspeth, being a genius and having an inside man, figured that out faster than any other women around him. She also knows how he is, being a killer herself. She gets that he feels like he has to hide his true self, because of all the killings and destruction he leaves behind.
Ines also knows so much about him, thanks to Viridiana. Yet she had to see how he is with others to make her own mind.
All the other women know only how he treats them, and not who he really is; even Amrit doesn't really know him.

With the 7th update, it seems like they are convinced about what Vi knew from the get go and Els already figured out.

This is also why I am adamant about Els it the go to LI in this game, and Ines may be the curveball.

Face it, this isn't a porn game. It's a graphic novel with some 18+ content, which is a part of real life, so nothing too out of this world. And a novel, or any other medium to be frank, has to make sense to the audience, while letting them put themselves in the shoes of a character. For men, it's obviously Valentine, being the only real protagonist in the story. Women have much more options to internalise, while this means men need to choose who they want to be with as the protagonist.

Valentine has a strict honour code. Which eliminate Vi since she's too close to a sister while he's feeling responsible for her. That's a recipe for disaster in a real life situation. Just consider Valentine's you, and you are in that situation... Think of the possibilities if things go wrong and you break Vi for good. That's too big of a risk.

Ines becomes more of a real contender for the prize as updates come, but she's too young, though she has wisdom beyond her years, she still lacks the knowledge about the burden Valentine carries day to day. She probably thinks that Valentine's biggest issue is what happened to Viridiana and although that's true, she has no idea how big of a burden he carries because of his years in service or how he looks down on himself.

Elspeth on the other hand understands him fully. She doesn't know what really happened between Valentine and Viridiana, but she knows him. She understands him. And to be honest, she is him. Now, that doesn't mean they will walk on the fields of flower, singing kumbaya, but it gives them a real chance to actually find happiness and even maybe peace.

None of the other women actually knows, or cares about his burden or how he really feels. Serena just want his dick. Amrit wants his dick and training. Kana his dick, training and maybe a ring in the future. They show no interest in his inner conflict. Sure, they sometimes come upon the symptoms, and try to be there for him, but not the real issues. None of them actually try to force him into seeing a psychiatrist or something like that. They have no idea how Valentine is hanging by a thread and can turn suicidal with just a drop. This is also why Ines isn't on the top of the LI list. She wouldn't be able to do any meaningful difference for Valentine, since Valentine won't open up to an 18 y.o. girl, who never experienced anything close to what he went through. Viridiana can, and occasionally try to help him, but his guilt is way too heavy to dump on to little sister.

Els is the only realistic LI for Valentine. And I sincerely hope she isn't behind the death of Zaina, or some other shit happened to Valentine because I don't see him surviving that kinda betrayal. He would even blame McNab for it since he could already knew about it but stayed silent. Besides McNab already associate with that lowlife agent, so he's getting on my nerves.
 
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I disagree quite a bit about the other main LIs being oblivious or not caring about Val's struggles. All the main LIs have expressed concern for him and encouraged him to seek therapy. Frankly, for people not qualified to deal with patients with significant trauma, that's often the best thing you can do. I also disagree about Kana and Amrit only wanting Val for sex, even if it was mostly that early on (for example, Amrit just about admitted her love, but stopped herself, most likely because she's afraid of being that vulnerable).

She wouldn't be able to do any meaningful difference for Valentine, since Valentine won't open up to an 18 y.o. girl, who never experienced anything close to what he went through.
I did also want to call out this line in particular. Ines quickly realized Val was having a panic attack after his therapy and was able to quickly help him calm down and recover. This sequence of scenes in particular show how Val is comfortable enough with Ines to allow himself to be vulnerable around her, and I suspect it's only a matter of time before he opens up to her about his struggles, especially if he continues therapy and becomes less fearful of acknowledging and discussing his issues in general.
 

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I disagree quite a bit about the other main LIs being oblivious or not caring about Val's struggles. All the main LIs have expressed concern for him and encouraged him to seek therapy. Frankly, for people not qualified to deal with patients with significant trauma, that's often the best thing you can do. I also disagree about Kana and Amrit only wanting Val for sex, even if it was mostly that early on (for example, Amrit just about admitted her love, but stopped herself, most likely because she's afraid of being that vulnerable).



I did also want to call out this line in particular. Ines quickly realized Val was having a panic attack after his therapy and was able to quickly help him calm down and recover. This sequence of scenes in particular show how Val is comfortable enough with Ines to allow himself to be vulnerable around her, and I suspect it's only a matter of time before he opens up to her about his struggles, especially if he continues therapy and becomes less fearful of acknowledging and discussing his issues in general.
I disagree with the first paragraph completely. Look how Els being forceful. She tried different ways to push Valentine out of his own mind. Even the so called best friend McNab doesn't do anything like that. Kana's whole existence as a wrestler is a mockery of Valentine's profession. Amrit is just an airhead. She loves and respects Valentine. She definitely lusts after him. Yet, how many teenage airheads do you know capable of dealing with shit that surrounds Valentine?

Now, to the second paragraph: Ines knowing how to deal with someone having a panic attack, thanks to her time with Viridiana means nothing apart from that particular thing, which happened only once. She knows Valentine was a soldier. She probably knows that he was special forces. She can guess that he killed, and tried to be killed. But she has no idea other than that. Because he doesn't, and logically will never, talk about his service with a teenager. And all she knows is, what Viridiana shared with her. Which is what he wrote and told her. Which is basically nothing, apart from Davis killing Zaina. So she has literally no idea and Valentine wouldn't, at least logically shouldn't, tell shit. Would you go yapping your top secret assignments, in detail nontheless, to a FRENCH TEEN? Being physically comfortable with a woman is easy for a womanizer like Valentine. Being open about one's past traumas, feelings and being vulnurable is strictly unlike him.

Remember, Valentine accepting to see a shrink, other than Els forcing him, in the first place was because the said shrink was a veteran with clearance.

Els is the most logical and best LI because, apart from McNab and the shrink, she is the only one that have any chance of Valentine to open up. Besides, she's cheating on getting to know him. She's using her connections to get his record. Which is suspicious and scary, but also the only way to do it.

FYI... I like the infamy route much better than the other way since that's actually embedded in his character. And on that route, he compares therapy to SERE training. So he is unwilling to open up even to the said shrink. I'm sure Valentine would be more comfortable being tortured by the enemy, rather than spill his guts out to any LI other than Els.
 

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I really hope that Els hasn't done anything to hurt Valentine personally. For the consistency of the story Valentine can forgive, or even not care about anything Els done to other people. However I don't think he can get over a personal betrayal, for example the killing of Zaina. That might even lead to the demise of Valentine if he's on the Els + Infamy route. Though Els keeps telling "he is too important for me" but who knows. Maybe she doesn't know the tie, she doesn't expect Valentine to put things together, or she doesn't expect Valentine to blame her for something happened before they know eachother. Either way, I really don't expect Valentine to forgive her, which would lead into selfdestructive behavior, probably him being very badly injured or even killed, possible in the ring.
I was leaning/expecting the other type of hurt, as in Els's past will come to haunt her and By proximity MC, She is high profile and if she did shady blackops shit than she could have enemies wanting to give her a personal hurt, or could be political too? (That line about Els's dad meeting Uk prime minister)
I say this because I feel like any link between Els's work and Zania would be too much of a stretch specially after already having used it for Vi, Vi's brother-MC conflict/issues, now tying in distant Els ...ehh..
The way I see it, Els has been has (atleast on the surface) 'things figured out' so she will be one needs helping/saving/breaking down whenever the shoe drops.
She helps MC out of his shell, out of his facade, pushes to seek therapy so eventually she will be one that would need help from MC
 
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I was leaning/expecting the other type of hurt, as in Els's past will come to haunt her and By proximity MC, She is high profile and if she did shady blackops shit than she could have enemies wanting to give her a personal hurt, or could be political too? (That line about Els's dad meeting Uk prime minister)
I say this because I feel like any link between Els's work and Zania would be too much of a stretch specially after already having used it for Vi, Vi's brother-MC conflict/issues, now tying in distant Els ...ehh..
The way I see it, Els has been has (atleast on the surface) 'things figured out' so she will be one needs helping/saving/breaking down whenever the shoe drops.
She helps MC out of his shell, out of his facade, pushes to seek therapy so eventually she will be one that would need help from MC
I rather have your guess over mine everyday of the week.

Honestly, I want this AVN to have some bad endings like Valentine dying or being broken in the ring type of tragedies. Of course there should be good endings but without the consequences, it just becomes a melodrama. You know, whatever happens the protagonist and his LI lives happily ever after... That feels like unfair to a so far great story.
I also guess that's exactly why there is a famous-infamous balance. For example, if shit hits the fan at the end of the game the MC would continue no matter what if famous, but it would lead to his demise if infamous.

About Elsie being in public eye... It's quite plausible for some relative of a person she assassinated come to hunt her down, if she really was some sort of legend during her service, since she's a quite well known person on the Island. But that shouldn't be the case, exactly because of that. I mean, who would be so careless if that's the case. One wouldn't need to be a genius to lay low, or roll around without a security detail etc. And even if Elsie didn't want that, I'm sure her family wouldn't let that fly, but from our dinner with her father, that doesn't seem to be an issue.
But I'm also sure that Valentine will put himself between anything harmful and any of the people, including McNab, he cares. And if it's Elsie, the girlfriend, he'll go beast mode to protect her which will lead to his demise.

To be frank, I still think he has been or will be betrayed by someone in the inner circle. STWA focus our attention on Elspeth because of her secrecy, but we have no reason not to believe her when she repeatedly say she cares/loves him to multiple people.
McNab is on my nerve because of his association with the lowlife agent, and that agent having Marshman, who has a violent past and is volatile... I think McNab and lowlife agent are shagging BTW. That may lead to betrayal of McNab, though I don't think that's plausible unless you really screw up by making an enemy out of McNab.
 

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I still think he has been or will be betrayed by someone in the inner circle.
Speaking of betrayal... I think STWA missed the opportunity in mandatory psych evaluation. Yeah, Elsie's father put the gears in motion but Serena signed it without considering how Valentine would react, or even discussing it with the originals.
I would've handled it with more hurt than anger if I were the author, like... "so this is how I'm pushed out of the foundation I established" on infamy route. Then of course Els would gave him the number and with some pleading... Currently he goes from "no way" to "i'm happy to endorse" in an instance.
 

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None of the other women actually knows, or cares about his burden or how he really feels. [...] They show no interest in his inner conflict. Sure, they sometimes come upon the symptoms, and try to be there for him, but not the real issues.
The thing is that some people don't see or play the MC as such a tortured soul in this game. I mean, there are events to show the player that he likely has poor mental health, like seeing ghosts of his dead friends a lot and having conversations with them, and an obvious mask of "Cassanova/womanizer" that he plays up to hide who he really is, plus there are other characters – mainly Els – telling him that he's not well or that he should be attending sessions with the other veterans. The most important symptom here though is the way he is slowly processing his memories, and the fact he is experiencing them like they are new and just uncovered. Plus he seemingly can't face what happened on the day that Zaina died, or speak of it (at least that's where it seems his block is when talking with the therapist). But that absence is tough to notice unless you're specifically looking for what isn't there.

On the other hand, the MC has a very successful MMA career that he's moving forward, a close group of friends who support him, no unhealthy addictions or other crutches to deal with any supposed issues, and he generally acts laid back and chill in his reactions to everything. Seeing Zaina and Davis can easily come across to the player as just the MC's internal dialog. Or that he is still in love with Zaina and just misses her. Honestly, to me these scenes often feel more like a narrative device that limits the need for too many unwanted flashbacks. The presence of these "ghosts" just doesn't feel menacing or unhealthy, in a "You must start fires, because the world must burn!" kind of way.

So I can see why others have said that Els felt like she was forcing herself too much into the MC's personal space – and perhaps gaslighting him – during the initial poolside talk when a lot of this first gets dumped on the player. It was only in the most recent chapter that we got a real sense of illness with the clearly dangerous panic attack. And this was also the only time in the story when the MC talked out loud to his ghosts – it happened during the therapy session – where he forgot he was in the middle of a real-world conversation at the time.

The extent of the MC's character is a lot better established now, with a more solid sense of his injuries, but I still sometimes feel it clashes with his other behaviours, and so it can feel more "angsty" than "serious" at times.

To bring this all back around to the love interests, I think who you choose can simply depend on how well that main storyline lands for you. And for some I think it feels like those issues are something the MC will work his way through in time on his own, as he needs to. I'm probably more in your camp than otherwise. To me, Vi sees the MC too much as her "Knight in shining armour", and so I feel she will have difficulty being there fully to support him when he's broken in some manner in the future (whether that's due to these traumas, or just in general because life is never without challenges). So other LIs do seem like a better fit to me as well, but I think it all comes down to whether the MC is played as a tortured soul or just a moderately stressed war veteran.
 
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