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VN Ren'Py STWA: Unbroken [Pt. 7] [STWAdev]

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doovel

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I never knew some people consider guitar to be "traditionally male" lol. That's pretty ridiculous :ROFLMAO:
You might think so, but do you consider a violin or a zither a woman's instrument?

A lot of things used to be far more separated by gender than what we have these days.
 

Dr.TSoni

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You might think so, but do you consider a violin or a zither a woman's instrument?

A lot of things used to be far more separated by gender than what we have these days.
For music the distinction was more on the genre, or at least that's what Joan Jett said in an interview
 
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Jericho85

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You might think so, but do you consider a violin or a zither a woman's instrument?

A lot of things used to be far more separated by gender than what we have these days.
No I don't. Neither instrument has ever been "traditionally" a man or woman's instrument. Throughout the history of both instruments, both sexes have played them. The guitar has also been played by both sexes since the earliest guitars in the Renaissance. Both women and men played lutes and different necked and neckless stringed instruments for centuries long before that across many cultures and time periods. So while you might think musical instruments were separated by sex, history doesn't actually support your worldview on that.

This is shifting a bit off topic so all I'll conclude with I don't really see anything that suggests that Ines is anything close to being tomboyish. I could probably agree with Amrit or Elspeth being more stereotypical tomboys, but not Ines or Vi.
 

doovel

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No I don't. Neither instrument has ever been "traditionally" a man or woman's instrument. Throughout the history of both instruments, both sexes have played them. The guitar has also been played by both sexes since the earliest guitars in the Renaissance. Both women and men played lutes and different necked and neckless stringed instruments for centuries long before that across many cultures and time periods. So while you might think musical instruments were separated by sex, history doesn't actually support your worldview on that.

This is shifting a bit off topic so all I'll conclude with I don't really see anything that suggests that Ines is anything close to being tomboyish. I could probably agree with Amrit or Elspeth being more stereotypical tomboys, but not Ines or Vi.
When I say something traditionally was played by women or men I don’t mean exclusively I mean they were primarily played by one sex or that it was socially unacceptable to play instruments that weren’t soft sounding and string based. Things like the piano, the violin, lute and the zither were played primarily by women for extended periods of time. Upper class women were quite literally expected to learn to play them.

It was either that or they didn’t play instruments at all. At least not professionally. See this article: and this

History literally supports my point, and that is why I will keep Ines in my potentially tomboy bucket. If she isn’t a tomboy we will make her one
 
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DirtyMario

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To touch on this, when I made that post a long time ago the models really barely moved a single facial muscle. When I recently came back to the game a few weeks ago the difference was astounding. He really took the criticism there (I'm sure it wasn't on here only) and made changes. I'd say he's up there with the best facial expressions in the industry now. Great damn work.
Some of the models might need another minute to think about it. :HideThePain:
 

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Somehow doubt Stew is going to introduce scat to this game.
for sure not since that could be against patreon's tos and not many are fans of that.

not wiping means also not wiping after taking a piss (it has fans too).
 
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