Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Captain Kek]

In that regard they didn't really set out to re-invent the wheel. Shoot em ups is in thousands out there, same with games with tactical grid combat at a variety of quality. Grid combat didn't start or end with xcom, and shoot em up games didn't end with Space invaders either. Oh, and majority of the games on this site is mediocre at best. Should fit right in then.

What makes a good or bad game is a matter of who rates it. This is a community for 18+ games so it will generally be rated based on 18+ content and the way the 18+ content synergizes with gameplay. The 18+ content within many of the games posted here is what brings them from mediocre to notable, without the 18+ content they wouldn't be, but without that they also wouldn't be posted here.

If the 18+ content doesn't feel connected to the gameplay, why wouldn't you play a game with better gameplay and watch better porn?
Connecting the 18+ content to gameplay is a critical element when crafting an 18+ game, otherwise it's just a regular game with some smut in it.

One of the reasons that this game has been so disappointing to some folks is that it had mainstream attention, has AAA polish, and is marketed as an 18+ game which takes gameplay seriously. This could create a market trend which brings 18+ games more into the mainstream, but the way in which it was executed has some people disappointed since what was delivered feels like it only has 18+ content as an afterthought rather than a critical component of the game. If you removed the 18+ stuff it wouldn't change the gameplay or story whatsoever, so it feels tacked on.

The problem is that they wanted to reward winning rather than losing, but the solution they chose is a bad one. A much better solution would be to unlock 18+ content based on score/ performance in levels as well as from dialog choices. Connecting the 18+ materials to gameplay in a seamless way is what separates an erotic game from a game with erotic materials, and what people were excited for was an erotic game with AAA polish.

 

[Joshua Tree]

What makes a good or bad game is a matter of who rates it. This is a community for 18+ games so it will generally be rated based on 18+ content and the way the 18+ content synergizes with gameplay. The 18+ content within many of the games posted here is what brings them from mediocre to notable, without the 18+ content they wouldn't be, but without that they also wouldn't be posted here.

If the 18+ content doesn't feel connected to the gameplay, why wouldn't you play a game with better gameplay and watch better porn?
Connecting the 18+ content to gameplay is a critical element when crafting an 18+ game, otherwise it's just a regular game with some smut in it.

One of the reasons that this game has been so disappointing to some folks is that it had mainstream attention, has AAA polish, and is marketed as an 18+ game which takes gameplay seriously. This could create a market trend which brings 18+ games more into the mainstream, but the way in which it was executed has some people disappointed since what was delivered feels like it only has 18+ content as an afterthought rather than a critical component of the game. If you removed the 18+ stuff it wouldn't change the gameplay or story whatsoever, so it feels tacked on.

That's overly simplify things. That's like saying This is a community for 18+ games. So all games with incest should be liked by all. All games with ntr should be liked by all, and so forth, because its games for 18+....

Oh and thank you very much for stating the obvious... "What makes a good or bad game is a matter of who rates it." Not everyone like the same things, that is why you see other games on this site with good reviews/ratings and others with bad reviews/ratings.

Cyberpunk got a 18+ rating, much due to nudity and sexuality, people play it even there is better games out there.. weird that right? One doesn't necessary exclude the other.

 

[Captain Kek]

That's overly simplify things.
So all games with incest should be liked by all. All games with ntr should be liked by all, and so forth, because its games for 18+....

Says I'm oversimplifying things
precedes to oversimplify things

What fetishes a person enjoys are a very different matter obviously, fetishes are strongly held psychosexual drives comparable in power to whether a person is gay or straight.
Which game mechanics and structures make best use of the medium to create an enjoyable gaming experience is a very different matter, and while subjective is far less divisive.

We're online and porn is available with a simple search from our browsers, but we still choose to play smutty games.
The point of a smutty game is the interactive experience, and when you separate the 18+ materials from the game and story it only serves to defeat the entire purpose of a smutty game.

Take Shady Lewd Kart for example, they do have a shop where you can buy smut based on currency unlocked through play, which is how Subverse handles it, but they also have 18+ content included in the story itself and unlocked directly through play.
It's perfectly fine to do both, but if there isn't 18+ content in the game itself then is it really even an erotic game? I'd argue no, it's a game with an erotic gallery, and what even is the point then?

 

[Joshua Tree]

Says I'm oversimplifying things
precedes to oversimplify things

What fetishes a person enjoys are a very different matter obviously, fetishes are strongly held psychosexual drives comparable in power to whether a person is gay or straight.
Which game mechanics and structures make best use of the medium to create an enjoyable gaming experience is a very different matter, and while subjective is far less divisive.

We're online and porn is available with a simple search from our browsers, but we still choose to play smutty games.
The point of a smutty game is the interactive experience, and when you separate the 18+ materials from the game and story it only serves to defeat the entire purpose of a smutty game.

You made it sound like because 18+ site, then users of the community knew how best to rate a 18+ game. But, end of the day we are all different with different views, tastes, fetishes, and so forth. Your experience of a thing differs from others. All over this site you see people argue of things in a games based on their views and opinions. Reviews and ratings isn't objective. They more follow the cross section of general opinion. The more bad one thing is, the more people leaning in that direction. Funny enough looking at the steam reviews made by people who own the game, so far it listed at 81% positive with 8986 reviews.

Checking the steam forum for subverse you have people complaining there is to much sex in the story for it to make sense. I'm not exactly sure where you going with separate the 18+ content from the game in relation to Subverse, because that make no sense. It suck to repeat it again, but it's an game with porn in it, not a porn game. If you want the later, you will find a plethora of things that is just a "push next" to keep fapping... There is those that doesn't mind actual game play, regardless how bad you think it is. If you check for the latest updates on the site now, you will find game such as Mystwood Manor. Do you think people that just interested in fap will find all the managing stuff a fun pass time? Yet there is better "managing" games out there, but that doesn't keep people from play it right?

 

[j4yj4m]

You made it sound like because 18+ site, then users of the community knew how best to rate a 18+ game. But, end of the day we are all different with different views, tastes, fetishes, and so forth. Your experience of a thing differs from others. All over this site you see people argue of things in a games based on their views and opinions. Reviews and ratings isn't objective. They more follow the cross section of general opinion. The more bad one thing is, the more people leaning in that direction. Funny enough looking at the steam reviews made by people who own the game, so far it listed at 81% positive with 8986 reviews.

I mean, that's kinda the point of specialized communities. It's the same with things like hifi, movies generes, book generes, music generes and basically every other specialized community out there. The people who are on there will know more about that topic/genere on average and will care more about that topic/genere on average. It's just a matter of reality.
I think we agree that it's a huge difference whether a game is literally among your first games in a certain genere you play - most people remember those firsts very fondly - or whether you've played many dozens of these games (including some of the classics, etc.) and are able to compare.

If you check for the latest updates on the site now, you will find game such as Mystwood Manor. Do you think people that just interested in fap will find all the managing stuff a fun pass time? Yet there is better "managing" games out there, but that doesn't keep people from play it right?

Mystwood Manor is actually a good example on how Subverse could/should have done it or should do it and is a really good game to compare. Yes, it's a managing game and not a very good one at that, but due to the way the game is structured and the pictures, cut scenes, lewd scenes etc. are implemented, the erotic tension is almost constant while not feeling out of place. It doesn't have these massive shifts like Subverse, where you can literally play hours between some of the recruitment scenes without getting a scene or in fact anything that's actually erotic unless you yourself permanently go back to pandora. With Subverse it's basicallly the feeling of either "100% sex" or basically nothing/very little erotic actually worth mentioning. The problem in this case isn't really that pandora exists, but that there's very, very little outside of it.

Elisha's introduction was a small improment and I'd hope the outfits etc. will help a little more.

 

[NatSlayer]

good someone knows how to solve the problem of the captain's room when I enter I have a screen loading and then I am black, it takes me out of the game

 

[TaimaninMED]

Has anyone got a cheat that's working?

 

[Joshua Tree]

Mystwood Manor is actually a good example on how Subverse could/should have done it or should do it and is a really good game to compare. Yes, it's a managing game and not a very good one at that, but due to the way the game is structured and the pictures, cut scenes, lewd scenes etc. are implemented, the erotic tension is almost constant while not feeling out of place. It doesn't have these massive shifts like Subverse, where you can literally play hours between some of the recruitment scenes without getting a scene or in fact anything that's actually erotic unless you yourself permanently go back to pandora. With Subverse it's basicallly the feeling of either "100% sex" or basically nothing/very little erotic actually worth mentioning. The problem in this case isn't really that pandora exists, but that there's very, very little outside of it.

Elisha's introduction was a small improment and I'd hope the outfits etc. will help a little more.

Subverse not even half way done. Mystwood had all girls unlocked, and you reached sex with them. Content wise Mystwood is leaps ahead in development, but at like their 2nd content update, it wasn't so. They not that different when it come to adding content. You did only start out with 2 characters in Mystwood, no lewd stuff to fap too. (unless you so desperate you fap to a nipple slip).

My point was there is other games with porn in them out there. Not just another porn game. "Straitened Times" is another time/resource management game. It took a good while before it started to pick up in lewd content as well.

What subverse is now, vs how it will be when its completed, will offer a whole different experience when playing through it with the entire story. With almost every game/vn (whatever) on this site, when a new update hits, there is more than often upset people... That all? Where is my fap?.... Take "The Intoxicating Flavor" as an example, the last few updates been just talking heads and story, but there is people that love that game regardless.

Also, you can't play for HOURS between lewd content in Subverse, unless you horrible bad at the actual game. There is always some lewd inuendos. A huge driving factor for Subverse is the voice actress.

Oh and just because you watch porn doesn't make you a specialist on it. That's like say everyone that got a pornhub account is specialists on the content. There is over 120 million active steam users a month... so on games, should that community be more specialized than this one? Being part of a community doesn't make you a specialist on anything (unless you got a education of some degree that make you so). You just gravitate towards things you like and like minded people. You have people on this site review and rate the same things and their views can differ greatly because when you zoom in on the community everyone is individuals end of the day with each their wants and desires. For like the past 20 years or so I have listened to two of my uncles argue what is the best HIFI equipment and they far from being any expert at all, they just HIFI nerds for lack of a better term.

 

[j4yj4m]

@Joshua Tree:
I never wrote that Subverse is done and I actually said that the last update improved things slightly, though there's a lot to be improved. I've indeed played Mystowood almost from the start and you brougth it up as an example. If Subverse moves in that direction, that's a good thing and I exlicity said it should. And as said, it's not only about the amount of content but about the way it's presented/implemented and that's currently the biggest issue with this game. I don't think there's a need to sugarcoat it. People talk about/rate the stuff that's there right now and not what may or may not come. If the game improves, so will the ratings.

Next to that it's not about "fapping" but indeed about the mood. In Subverse you can literally forget that you are actually playing some kind of erotic game - the dialog may be obscene at times but it doesn't really do anything for the mood in my opinion.

I actually replayed the game last week and while it may not be (many) "hours", the time it takes from let's say Lily's recruitment until you get Killision is long, really long. Unless of course you try to rush through the game as quickly as possible and skip every bit of battle content that's strictly not necessary, which I don't think is something that should be encouraged.

I know that nothing I say actually matters to you, so I may as well stop here.

 

[Joshua Tree]

@Joshua Tree:
I never wrote that Subverse is done and I actually said that the last update improved things slightly, though there's a lot to be improved. I've indeed played Mystowood almost from the start and you brougth it up as an example. If Subverse moves in that direction, that's a good thing and I exlicity said it should. And as said, it's not only about the amount of content but about the way it's presented/implemented and that's currently the biggest issue with this game. I don't think there's a need to sugarcoat it. People talk about/rate the stuff that's there right now and not what may or may not come. If the game improves, so will the ratings.

Next to that it's not about "fapping" but indeed about the mood. In Subverse you can literally forget that you are actually playing some kind of erotic game - the dialog may be obscene at times but it doesn't really do anything for the mood in my opinion.

I actually replayed the game last week and while it may not be (many) "hours", the time it takes from let's say Lily's recruitment until you get Killision is long, really long. Unless of course you try to rush through the game as quickly as possible and skip every bit of battle content that's strictly not necessary, which I don't think is something that should be encouraged.

I know that nothing I say actually matters to you, so I may as well stop here.

If it didn't matter, we wouldn't have any interaction right? Also, I never said you said Subverse is done either. I just pointed it out when comparing to Mystwood content wise. In Mystwood you grind the girls to unlock scenes with them. In Subverse you do missions to earn points you unlock extra scenes of them, not necessary with them. In Mystwood you have to grind through a lot of low end erotic stuff before you reach the climatic sex scene. In Subverse you unlock the extras at own leisure and pick your poison. If you want to watch a character rub one out, or gorge herself on a xeno dick... your choice.

End of the day its all about how we approach these games. Some just want to fap, others might just want to play a game, and the lewd stuff is just added bonus.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

I refuse to grind the stupid ass shoot em up or turn based shit to get some arbitrary "sex points". Does anyone have a proper, actually working cheat table?

 

[Joshua Tree]

I refuse to grind the stupid ass shoot em up or turn based shit to get some arbitrary "sex points". Does anyone have a proper, actually working cheat table?

Or maybe just find a game you do like? Or just fail the missions 3 times in a row and skip... Not sure you will get enough points that way to unlock everything though..

 

[Gnodab]

Dropping my 0.3 save here. (Put it in ...\AppData\Local\Subverse\Saved\SaveGames)
- Main quests completed
- Spaceship (F3NIX) upgraded
- All Mantics unlocked
- All Pandora scenes unlocked

Haven't done many sidequests, Haven't done any gifting things, and gallery things.

Always grateful for these, much appreciated.

Might be handy to put this in the OP (in a probably still vain attempt to stop people asking for saves lul)

 

[ninja001]

Is there a update file or I have to redownload the whole game ?
If I have to download the whole game can I use my old game save ?
(my is v0.1.3 download in this site)

 

[Joshua Tree]

Is there a update file or I have to redownload the whole game ?
If I have to download the whole game can I use my old game save ?
(my is v0.1.3 download in this site)

Have to download the entire game. Your save should be in appdata/local/subverse in windows.

 

[GifMeMore1987]

I refuse to grind the stupid ass shoot em up or turn based shit to get some arbitrary "sex points". Does anyone have a proper, actually working cheat table?

Just use a full save with all scenes unlocked (there are several posted in this thread). Or use Save Editor to raise PP.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Just use a full save with all scenes unlocked (there are several posted in this thread). Or use Save Editor to raise PP.

Can't he just as well just go to pornhub or some other site that got the scenes uploaded already. Saves the effort of download anything at all when not interested in play the actual game.

 

[PussSlayer69]

My pepee is ready.

 

[Ivan1000]

so whats the crack file for? is there some sort of DRM included in the game?

 

[GifMeMore1987]

so whats the crack file for? is there some sort of DRM included in the game?

Just go back one page and you'll find the answer (and in many more posts in this thread).