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Readerf2b

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You get told what they are working on in the dev diaries/updates, so why do you expect anything else? Funny how you claim people "protect" something by just reveal accurate information. VValen never "over sold" or presented Subverse as anything else than what it actually is. That people want the game to be something it isn't, that is on them though.
Lol, i knew that you will jump to save the game from "unfair" critique once again. Im pretty sure you and vvalen are 40% of this tread messages, but its we who are "strange".
 

Joshua Tree

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Lol, i knew that you will jump to save the game from "unfair" critique once again. Im pretty sure you and vvalen are 40% of this tread messages, but its we who are "strange".
I don't care what criticque you want to give the game. But if you want it to hold any value what so ever. Give the feedback to the actual creators right? Or you expect them to pop up in there and respond to you? This thread have sort of a "cool down" between updates, but right after a update hit, you have the same trolls show up with the same old talking points, false claims and what not that been refuted several times over.

If you think the game is shit, fair, if you think it's x, y & z.. fair, that is your opinion, you are entitled to have your opinion. But people that like the game have the same rights and entitled to do so without being told they are shills, protecting the game and what not. If people prove your talking points as wrong, doesn't make them protecting anything, they just prove you are wrong.
 

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Lol, i knew that you will jump to save the game from "unfair" critique once again. Im pretty sure you and vvalen are 40% of this tread messages, but its we who are "strange".
Dunno how many times I have to say there’s a difference between critique and ‘devs are lazy, worst game ever, *insert game here* is better’. That’s not critique, that’s just bitching.

If ya said you didn’t like the combat, that’s fine. And it’s a common opinion that Pandora isn’t the best part of the game. And that’s been acknowledged by the devs. But it isn’t gonna suddenly become better in a couple of months.
 

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Dunno how many times I have to say there’s a difference between critique and ‘devs are lazy, worst game ever, *insert game here* is better’. That’s not critique, that’s just bitching.

If ya said you didn’t like the combat, that’s fine. And it’s a common opinion that Pandora isn’t the best part of the game. And that’s been acknowledged by the devs. But it isn’t gonna suddenly become better in a couple of months.
The difference between people that actually follow the game, updates, dev diaries. Interactions the cretators does. Their twitter feed etc. And the "uninformed" that keep spew the "cool" talking points. :rolleyes: That is the cool thing about being grounded in reality, much less risk of get disappointed.
 
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Pretty sure the devs don't visit here, but here are a few suggestions from a design standpoint in the off-chance they do:
1: Melee combat units need a rework. There is next to no benefit to have melee team mates and they usually get destroyed EASILY by the VAST amount of ranged enemy units.
2: Have an indicator on either the galaxy or system level of the map to show what is completed/incomplete. It would make map navigation a LOT less tedious.
3: DEMI needs to be able to distribute her extra pooter points to the other characters. She has a STOCK at this point that are just sitting there unused...
 
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Viinniw

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Working save please?

I've tried every possible way to insert one that was posted a little time ago and nothing. I guess it's because it's an old version of the game...
 

Joshua Tree

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Working save please?

I've tried every possible way to insert one that was posted a little time ago and nothing. I guess it's because it's an old version of the game...
Save files is found in

AppData\Local\Subverse\Saved\SaveGames

They cary over and isn't made obsolete on update...
 

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I'm certain you know the answer without needing to sound controversial, but for those who don't, I want hostilities to end not the world. Please don't make me sound like I'm trying to act like a dick. I already have enough problems in the real world with people taking what I say the wrong way.

On another note, I agree some of subverse's comedy is cringe but what isn't is hilarious including the reference to Ramsey. In my opinion they should include other celebrities. One suggestion could be Eminem or Bill Clinton. Those two have a lot of crazy parodies I've seen in many shows of which they themselves had a good laugh over.
No worries, my dude. I spend a lot of time on sites where depression memes are passed around like cigarettes in prison, just wasn't sure which way you were going with that.

Yeah, celebrity parodies of people who stayed in the press for a long time would be good. You can already get a cigar trophy in the game which is a reference to Bill. It's just after a the third quest where the quest giver is obviously supposed to be an insult to someone, it got old. It carries the same weight as a brat saying "I drew a picture of you as a BUTT! Ha ha!" After they've drawn three people as a butt, yeah, not really funny anymore. Then I had to sit through another ten of them.

So, in short, to improve the game:
1) reduce dying to random dice rolls. That part isn't fun.
2) reduce putting words into the mouths of caricatures of the people you don't like.
3) use more accessible and timeless referential humor.
4) improve the scenes to be more interactive. The fake zoom and pan, with just a speed slider isn't cutting it.
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5) balance ranged and melee ground fighting. Only 2 of 7 of the mantics are ranged, but you almost always need at least two ranged to survive (counting your commander). Make melee more tanky or make more of them ranged.
 
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Viinniw

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Save files is found in

AppData\Local\Subverse\Saved\SaveGames

They cary over and isn't made obsolete on update...
When I load the save I've downloaded here it keeps sending me back to the main menu.. idk what is happening that it doesn't load
 

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Pretty sure the devs don't visit here, but here are a few suggestions from a design standpoint in the off-chance they do:
1: Melee combat units need a rework. There is next to no benefit to have melee team mates and they usually get destroyed EASILY by the VAST amount of ranged enemy units.
2: Have an indicator on either the galaxy or system level of the map to show what is completed/incomplete. It would make map navigation a LOT less tedious.
3: DEMI needs to be able to distribute her extra pooter points to the other characters. She has a STOCK at this point that are just sitting there unused...
The first two have definitely been mentioned on the discord server. As for the 3rd, there’s gonna be a cap on devotion eventually, so I’d wager those points will be used eventually. Bear in mind each update adds more scenes, and most of those scenes are then available at the start of the game, besides mantic/crew specific ones.

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where i have to search among this

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As someone else stated, the new quest is in the Kraken nebula, not Hydra. It’s the blue one in the lower middle part of the map.
 

ArtLink

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If you’re just looking for a fap sure, and you’re free to enjoy those.

If you want an actual game to go along with that fap, then there’s Subverse. Ain’t nothing stopping ya :)
Man you can simp for this game all day but that not change the fact that the sex scenes and animatios not looks that good
compared with the studio fow past movies, the gameplay is so bad and generic that they add option to skip.
 
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Man you can simp for this game all day but that not change the fact that the sex scenes and animatios not looks that good
compared with the studio fow past movies, the gameplay is so bad and generic that they add option to skip.
I mean making a film is drastically different from making a game. Would think that was apparent.

Also that isn’t the reason why skip was added. It was for players that either have troubles with the game (believe it or not you aren’t the only people playing this). There are also players with physical disabilities that made playing the ship sections a pain. And it’s also for those that simply can’t be bothered to work for their smut.

Also stop stating your opinion as a fact.
 

Enigmanic

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I mean making a film is drastically different from making a game. Would think that was apparent.
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Also stop stating your opinion as a fact.
Actually, he's right about the animations. Studio FoW's past works show that the sex scenes could be much better. And no, making a film isn't all that different. I understand FoW's falterings since DarkCrow was always a shit writer and a poor director. To make a proper film or a game, first you put adequate effort into planning. You storyboard the script and the scenes and you carefully plan out the features the game will have.

The quality of the sex scenes in Subverse is atrocious. They are perfectly capable of animating better quality sex scenes, even making variants of sections of scenes, it simply requires planning and effort. The fact is they got lazy.
 

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Actually, he's right about the animations. Studio FoW's past works show that the sex scenes could be much better. And no, making a film isn't all that different. I understand FoW's falterings since DarkCrow was always a shit writer and a poor director. To make a proper film or a game, first you put adequate effort into planning. You storyboard the script and the scenes and you carefully plan out the features the game will have.

The quality of the sex scenes in Subverse is atrocious. They are perfectly capable of animating better quality sex scenes, even making variants of sections of scenes, it simply requires planning and effort. The fact is they got lazy.
So their works are bad now cuz of DC, but the past works (which are all directed by him) are also good?

Also the films and games are made using entirely different engines. Imagine doing a thing a certain way for years and then shifting over to a completely different method.

And you’re also using fact for your opinion. If you don’t like it as is, fine. It is going to get overhauled eventually. But to call it lazy is vastly underestimated how much work goes into making a looped animation. Try making one in SFM yourself and see.
 

Enigmanic

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So their works are bad now cuz of DC, but the past works (which are all directed by him) are also good?
As was often commented in Studio FoW's Tumblr and Patreon feeds by me and several other supporters, the animations were great but the story and writing were lame. There were entire debates and even flame wars about DC's handling of the stories.

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Also the films and games are made using entirely different engines. Imagine doing a thing a certain way for years and then shifting over to a completely different method.
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Wrong again. Implementing the animations into a different engine takes experience, I'll agree there. But the animations aren't made in that game engine. Furthermore, getting used to a new engine has no relevance to them taking the time to make better sex scenes that consist of more than three-second loops.

...And you’re also using fact for your opinion. If you don’t like it as is, fine. It is going to get overhauled eventually. But to call it lazy is vastly underestimated how much work goes into making a looped animation. Try making one in SFM yourself and see.
There are plenty of erotic animators in the scene who make way better looking sex scenes than what we see in Subverse.

BTW - I followed and supported Studio FoW through Tumblr and Patreon for over four years. I still remember those top-tier supporters and Studio FoW members who were the most hostile and abusive toward supporters who gave constructive criticism. I can guess who you are. Your avatar is a dead give-away.
 

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As was often commented in Studio FoW's Tumblr and Patreon feeds by me and several other supporters, the animations were great but the story and writing were lame. There were entire debates and even flame wars about DC's handling of the stories.


Wrong again. Implementing the animations into a different engine takes experience, I'll agree there. But the animations aren't made in that game engine. Furthermore, getting used to a new engine has no relevance to them taking the time to make better sex scenes that consist of more than three-second loops.


There are plenty of erotic animators in the scene who make way better looking sex scenes than what we see in Subverse.

BTW - I followed and supported Studio FoW through Tumblr and Patreon for over four years. I still remember those top-tier supporters and Studio FoW members who were the most hostile and abusive toward supporters who gave constructive criticism. I can guess who you are. Your avatar is a dead give-away.
Do you have proof the animations aren’t made in the engine? Cuz half the point of Subverse is getting their animators familiar with UE4, as that’s what their films will be made in in the future.

And again they are overhauling Pandora. I don’t know when, because frankly it’s the part they’d probably worry about last, the game and story being the likely priority.

As for ye olden Patreon days. I can scarcely remember any members that didn’t join the discord after it was axed. If you were there, you’d have picked up the former supporter tag. So sorry if I don’t remember you among the thousands of supporters.
 
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