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Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.0] [Studio Fow]
all those grinding make this game rubbish
well, since there are only 2 or 3 race/type/specie of enemy ships, come with 4 or 5 classes, and thats all. its maybe fine if they add more modifications and ship types, nots the worst part yet.
the ground one is hopeless. every single turn is 1 wave, and all you know is how many enemies next wave will spawn.
in 0.4.5, for 1st girl, the first try is 100% rng base fight. for 2nd girl, team up with 1 melee tank and 2 rangers just kill all enemies in your range, yea the no brainer way winning grind. i dun think there is a way to make a small map like this comes with this often and much spawning w/o any information gonna work as a game mode that you need to play more than 80 times.
well, since there are only 2 or 3 race/type/specie of enemy ships, come with 4 or 5 classes, and thats all. its maybe fine if they add more modifications and ship types, nots the worst part yet.
the ground one is hopeless. every single turn is 1 wave, and all you know is how many enemies next wave will spawn.
in 0.4.5, for 1st girl, the first try is 100% rng base fight. for 2nd girl, team up with 1 melee tank and 2 rangers just kill all enemies in your range, yea the no brainer way winning grind. i dun think there is a way to make a small map like this comes with this often and much spawning w/o any information gonna work as a game mode that you need to play more than 80 times.
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Thank you for the very in-depth response, it’s very much appreciated. Everything makes a lot more sense when you put it into the context of the story like that. As you said I don’t really see it as NTR if the girls are just fucking other people, especially when it’s not malicious towards you and even more so in the context of the game. I haven’t heard much about the game besides watching GManLives Review of it which was quite awhile ago. Saw that it was recently updated, think I’ll give it a go. Thanks for the help and explanationI know Joshua there answered, but figured I’d add more context. Yes there are animations with the captain and ladies. Each recruitment ends with a personal scene with the cap, which then unlocks their Pandora section. The current system (as they’re working on overhauling it), has it so every level of devotion (a bar alongside XP from combat) nets you a point (2 in later levels) that can be used in this system to unlock an animation for viewing. There are basic animations, and also premium ones with a speed bar and climax ending (premium meaning they just cost 1 more point, not a micro transaction xD).
Regarding NTR, it is not present in this game. Its tag is a very misinterpreted definition of the term, because the game does allow for romance dialogue (what I mentioned before) while also having scenes not with the captain. To properly explain this you’ll need a bit of story from the game.
The captain and the ladies he’s picking up (along with the mantics - creatures created by Lily the scientist of the crew), are attempting to overthrow the Imperium, a ruling class of celibate, mind controlling high-powered aliens. Their agenda is about controlling the depraved nature of sex, promoting abstinence and such. They’ve take such extreme measures as outlawing sex bots (DEMI, the one we have on our ship, is considered the last of her kind), forcing entires species to change their ways of life, and also attempting to genocide the Solars (humans who got to Prodigium through a black hole) once they’d established their own free fucking colony called Nu Vegas.
With that in mind, it’s not surprising that the crew of the Mary Celeste are very horny all the time. If anything their constant banging is like a big middle finger to what the Imperium represents. The mantics, as the Tree mentioned, are rather mindless creatures, controlled through a collar Lily calls the Dominus. Thus you can interpret their scenes with the ladies as them using a very large sex toy.
Ironically the only time ‘cuck’ has been used in the game so far was against the initial boss, whom we obtained DEMI from.
I hope that properly answers your concerns, and you’ll possibly try the game out
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Wall of text aside, there’s currently 5 enemy types
Pirates - the first ones you fight, the ones with mostly fire attacks and bombs
Fuccbots - the crazy sex robots with kamikaze attacks and phallic ship shapes
Scoundrels - mercs with fancy blue laser based attacks
Kloi - space elves with more precise attacks
Imperium - the holy looking ships that look like they just flew outta the Vatican.
Still to come is Blythe’s faction, The Requital.
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I see, that is to say that in this game girls have sex with other male npc, but the MC doesn't feel jealous right?
No, there's no jealousy. There basically aren't any committed relationships in Subverse through v0.4.5. The ship is one big open relationship, and that's why NTR isn't really a thing in this game.
I think the lack of romance is something a good chunk of players have been disappointed by in the game, myself included; although devs say they're trying to add it in - to me, and I've said this before and noticed other posters have said it as well, they just tried to make everybody happy and as a result didn't really check any of the far end boxes for either side - those who were looking forward to NTR didn't get it. Those of us who were looking for more of a romance, choice-based story with the girls didn't get it. What we got was a middle ground with a hodge podge of different "clips". Instead of a main course, we got a sampling tray with a lot of different things on it, some of which people like and some of which people don't (depending on the individual player's tastes).
If you have more questions, feel free to ask, and even go through the reviews and read them as well - I always find it interesting when checking out a new game to read through both good and bad reviews to get an idea of what people liked and disliked so I know what to expect.
Ultimately though, I'd say if you're interested in the game, give it a download - that's the great thing about F95 - you can check things out and then decide if it's something you want to financially support or not.
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I see, if there is no romance then girls having sex with anyone is not a problem, but if they add romance to it... it will surely open up problems, games like Superpowered touch on that, the MC doesn't "love" girls, he just He corrupts them and uses them to his liking, if you have sex with someone else it doesn't matter because there is no relationship, we will have to wait to see what happens with this, in the end I wish the devs luck.
And thanks for the info.
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That is what the loyality missions will be for though... Something they stated a long time ago.
Sure, the devotion quests are intended for that, no doubt, the issue for some folks, though, is when the dialogue and codex has instances where the girls talk about taking monster dicks or sex with monsters is referenced despite the player not ever unlocking the related xeno scenes, that's a bit of a turn off for a percentage of the audience even if you don't have to watch the scenes.
So that's what people mean when they talk about the dev trying to do a little too much / make everybody happy with conflicting preferences, etc.
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Except they haven't. Like the closest thing is Ela mentioning that the mantics are ugly, but their dicks look delicious. Which coming from the pornstar that wants to try out new things, is rather in character.
You just contradicted your statement - saying they haven't and then citing a direct example where they have. Let's not do this thing again where you act like the stuff isn't in the game, and then someone comes along and posts screenshots of it. I'm sure the dialogue from and about Lily along with the codex is still in the thread some pages back.
It's fine that it's not an issue for you, but some people don't like it. And there's nothing wrong with pointing that out or chatting about it.
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That's not a contradiction, find me a statement where they're having a convo with the captain and they just suddenly bring up the mantic they just got done banging. I didn't say it doesn't happen, to me Pandora's scenes are what occur during the time the story takes place. But they do not throw it in your face.
Don't even have to pull the conversations then if you're just looking for evidence that it's occurring on the Mary Celeste as it's in the Codex -
As far as conversations, first, here's a re-quote of what I said for reference to show that what I said is true based on the evidence from the actual game that I am providing below: "the issue for some folks, though, is when the dialogue and codex has instances where the girls talk about taking monster dicks or sex with monsters is referenced despite the player not ever unlocking the related xeno scenes"
Here's a conversation the Captain has with Demi about Lily early on in the game even if the player doesn't unlock any xeno scenes:
Demi confirms this is happening "constantly".
And here's the Lily related chats indicating that her doing monsters in her past is canon. It's not something the player can opt out of at any point in the story.
So bottom line this isn't a debate. The facts are the facts.
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Lily isn't some secret gotcha, that codex entry has been on the website since the beginning of the campaign.Don't even have to pull the conversations then if you're just looking for evidence that it's occurring on the Mary Celeste as it's in the Codex -
As far as conversations, first, here's a re-quote of what I said for reference to show that what I said is true based on the evidence from the actual game that I am providing below: "the issue for some folks, though, is when the dialogue and codex has instances where the girls talk about taking monster dicks or sex with monsters is referenced despite the player not ever unlocking the related xeno scenes"
Here's a conversation the Captain has with Demi about Lily early on in the game even if the player doesn't unlock any xeno scenes:
Demi confirms this is happening "constantly".
And here's the Lily related chats indicating that her doing monsters in her past is canon. It's not something the player can opt out of at any point in the story.
So bottom line this isn't a debate. The facts are the facts.
Didn't say she was, so don't move the goal posts. You asked for evidence and it was provided.
It never made sense for them to try act like things were optional. They're not. And that's all I am and others have pointed out.
Good post, Razrback16 - those definitely confirm it's happening both in the past and presently on the Mary Celeste.
Yeah they should have put that stuff behind some kind of an option layer so players not into that could completely opt out of it and not have it thrown in their face like that.
I don't know why anybody would try to argue in good faith that the stuff isn't in the game. It's not every character or anything, but it's there. They don't try to hide it. The stuff with Lily is overtly in your face, and then like Valen mentioned from characters like Ela there are little conversation bits about the monsters' dicks, etc.
I had originally signed up on F95 to specifically ask some questions about this game related to the xeno stuff as I'd really like it to not be there. I would buy the game and leave a positive review of the game on either GOG or Steam if they made those items truly optional. I've continued to follow the thread in the hope that some changes would be made but probably not I'm guessing.
Yeah they should have put that stuff behind some kind of an option layer so players not into that could completely opt out of it and not have it thrown in their face like that.
I don't know why anybody would try to argue in good faith that the stuff isn't in the game. It's not every character or anything, but it's there. They don't try to hide it. The stuff with Lily is overtly in your face, and then like Valen mentioned from characters like Ela there are little conversation bits about the monsters' dicks, etc.
I had originally signed up on F95 to specifically ask some questions about this game related to the xeno stuff as I'd really like it to not be there. I would buy the game and leave a positive review of the game on either GOG or Steam if they made those items truly optional. I've continued to follow the thread in the hope that some changes would be made but probably not I'm guessing.
Ya you know what, I'd buy the game too if they made all of that stuff completely optional and got it out of the dialogue and codex. Like you, I have similar doubts it will ever occur, though. It's all good though, I respect the creative freedom of others - as I've noted in the past, Studio FOW owes me exactly nothing. Just as I owe them exactly nothing. But I do enjoy backing studios and indie devs when they give me things I really like and want more of. I'm backing a couple on Patreon currently.