Sorry but it just doesn't work that way. Even if they thought they were using it ironically, it doesn't come off well in a lot of their marketing or text. People assumed they were serious, and when people asked them about it. They basically didn't give straight answers back then, confusing the issue. So while I think those people were naive, it doesn't change the fact the devs had ample oppertunity to just be straight up about it when they were directly asked. I think they knew it would piss people off, which is why they stayed vague. Hence I think they were scummy and mislead a lot of dumb people. I can't respect that, at least most devs here are entirely upfront when asked directly. Sub-verse devs really weren't. They should haven't used waifus or harems in their marketing and then this thread wouldn't be full of bitching about it. Admittedly then I wouldn't be able to see this giant shitstorm I knew was coming, which would be kinda sad.