CappoUnknown

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The reviews for this game blow my mind. Like this game is on a level 99.9% of the games here will never reach or achieve. I even looked at reviews by some of the people giving it 2 and 3 starts, and then they give 5 stars to games that have even less gameplay, less quality and less content. It just goes to show how worthless most reviews are these days. I have 95 hours in the game because I bought it years ago when it first came out on Steam, so I've played it all along the way, multiple times through (well, to the end of the then-current content). It's not perfect, but man is it just simply top-tier all around. I get the criticism that there's not enough sex scenes during the story telling - but I disagree. There's the right amount - because this isn't a fucking porno story. They really tried to have a compelling story in a sex-crazed universe. I don't know, it really worked for me. I've played adult/hentai games since 2002 - I've seen very few games in this space reach this high and see completion.

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I gave it a 1/5, and its easy to explain why.

pros:

+ The characters (I really like the characters design and the personalities from the different characters)
+ animations (The sex scenes animations are great)
+ voice acting (moaning sounds during the H scene

Neutral

o The plot (the plot is not interesting but also not bad)

cons:

- The writing from this game, this includes the main story, side story and interaction with the characters. (It is so badly written, that I “cringe” towards the writing. It is so over the top that I started to skip all dialogs.)
- no dialogue during H scene (This is definitely missing in the H scenes)
- The humor is with the writing so bad (That I started to skip all of the dialog)
- uninteresting combat combat (The combat missions are all repetitive and boring. At least the main story missions are different)
- They casted a SFW actress for Kasidora and made her un-lewdable (It was a stupid decision from the start of the devs. And I am surprised how out of touch they are. It was clear from the beginning, that there are people that will lewd Kasidora. But it is now impossible, to lewd her in game.)
- H-content mostly not integrated in the story and dumped in a Gallery system (This is my main critic point)
- The game forces you grind as much as possible to earn points to unlock the Gallery




There are games from this forum, created by small teams or even a single person, that I enjoy far more than this one.

The funny thing is, they mocked Mass Effect 3's ending, but I actually prefer that ending over this game.
 
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JIC19

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Since there's so many questions to do with saves and where their stored I'll list all the one's I know of.
C:\Users\Public\Documents\Steam\RUNE\1034140\remote
C:\Users\(Your Username Here)\AppData\Roaming\Goldberg SteamEmu Saves (It will be one of the folder's in here, you'll have to work out which one yourself since I can't say with confidence it'll be the same)
C:\Users\(Your Username Here)\AppData\Roaming\GSE Saves\1034140\remote
C:\Users\(Your Username Here)\AppData\Local\Subverse\Saved\SaveGames

These are the one's I know of, if you downloaded the game via the torrent for v1.10. Specifically the one that included the 4k movies, the one that worked for me was the first one I listed.
thanks for guide me here!it works!
 

4notherRandomGuy

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The reviews for this game blow my mind. Like this game is on a level 99.9% of the games here will never reach or achieve.

I get the criticism that there's not enough sex scenes during the story telling - but I disagree. There's the right amount - because this isn't a fucking porno story. They really tried to have a compelling story in a sex-crazed universe. I don't know, it really worked for me.
Imo, the problem is that the target audience is too wide. When I first heard of the game, Studio Fow was trying to advertise it not just a porn animation, but a decent game too. I think Nutaku, while have no affiliation with this, was trying to push something similar in the same time frame, so there are some that wants to critics this not with a "porn game lenses", but actual game review lenses. Old Fow enjoyers, on the other hand, are spoil by their past work and expect it to be at least as good or better then their movies. Given how big the wave that patreon/start-up & how well know it is, there are just a lot of expectation from way to may different audience.
it's still a complete travesty that their game for the scenes it's all pre rendered and does not include the basic interactive gameplay from illusion games (tons of sex positions, full 3d navigation, fluids, etc) and Illusion accomplished that with way less budget.
They totally squandered the budged on mediocre vanilla action/tactic gameplay that it's the last thing people care about in fucking porn game
Here's an example of wide audience. Reilynn think that "This is not a porno story", and focus on the story aspect of the game. While I do follow a variety of game on F95, most of it are gameplay instead of VN, stuff like deckbuilder, army/party trainer, bullet hell, etc. In this case, I was looking forward to the gameplay the most, but also have expectation toward the porn, as it is Studio Fow and I have no doubt on their lewd based on their impressive portfolio. Akastyr, on the other hand, wonder why they even add (mediocre) gameplay in a porn game.

There is 0 chance of this game getting high score with all the aspect they try to cover at the same time.
 

momoma

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Dec 31, 2018
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Woaw the new update absolutely SUCKS BALLS.
Who in their right mind will waste 3h in their boring grid/space combat to reach wave 70 ? there even achievments to go to wave 100 ???
There's not even a single roguelite element to make it more bearable and go faster.

Did they really think it would be fun ? all of this for what... a single skin ?
I just don't get it... I'm genuinely flabbergasted.
Please tell me I misunderstood or missed something.
 

Zero28

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Mar 23, 2018
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Woaw the new update absolutely SUCKS BALLS.
Who in their right mind will waste 3h in their boring grid/space combat to reach wave 70 ? there even achievments to go to wave 100 ???
There's not even a single roguelite element to make it more bearable and go faster.

Did they really think it would be fun ? all of this for what... a single skin ?
I just don't get it... I'm genuinely flabbergasted.
Please tell me I misunderstood or missed something.
https://f95zone.to/threads/subverse-v1-1-0-studio-fow.77900/post-16478568
 

dkao12

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The thing about fourth wall writing is that you have to give it breathing space to rebuild before you tear it down again(break it). And once you have broken it down, it will never be as good as you did it the first time. Some might reference Deadpool, but he works because NOBODY believes him but the readers. In Subverse everybody acts like there is no fourth wall, so it pulls the audience out of the narrative.

This game was given a ton of promises by its own developers to be the first "AAA" porn game. It had a great success in its Kickstarter. It even had some media attention when it was gathering a following. We didn't put this "high expectation" onto StudioFOW, they did.

Basically, it doesn't matter how well-built your ship is. Or if you have the best crew in the world. If the captain does a poor job then you will either hit snags or sink the whole ship. It's one of the biggest reasons why modern AAA games fail nowadays. So in a ironic twist Subverse kind of fulfilled that prophecy.

I am just thoroughly disappointed as one of the Kickstarter backers years ago.
 
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CrvX1995

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Disappointing update, new girl isn't really that good looking, would be better to get more scenes with others (cybernetic x-ray scene for Demi, more crazy bulges with the small one, maybe slime/transparent skin, new scenes with FOW chan don't even have a single good xeno one as far as bulges go... shame)
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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Jan 21, 2023
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Woaw the new update absolutely SUCKS BALLS.
Who in their right mind will waste 3h in their boring grid/space combat to reach wave 70 ? there even achievments to go to wave 100 ???
There's not even a single roguelite element to make it more bearable and go faster.

Did they really think it would be fun ? all of this for what... a single skin ?
I just don't get it... I'm genuinely flabbergasted.
Please tell me I misunderstood or missed something.
There were many feedback requests asking for a repeatable/endless challenge mode. It was delivered. Pretty simple answer.
 

momoma

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Dec 31, 2018
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There were many feedback requests asking for a repeatable/endless challenge mode. It was delivered. Pretty simple answer.
It's one thing to listen to community and take ideas, but then you've got to think how to actually implement them in a fun or interresting way.
It's with mistakes like this, that you see how making a game is not that simple of a deal.

endless mode doesn't mean hours of non-stop numbing gameplay. You gotta have some sense of progression, evolution, and especially randomness in powerups and enemy encounters. Each runs shouldn't feel so similar, otherwise there's no point in trying more than once.

And it should have a good pace so it doesn't actually takes 3 hours to complete. I know because that's what it took my friend to do it on the space combat challenge. He told me he had to open youtube on his second monitor to make it more bearable. I mean come on... you know you've failed as a game designer when players resort to this...

Kind of liked the game but this disapointed me a little bit.
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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It's one thing to listen to community and take ideas, but then you've got to think how to actually implement them in a fun or interresting way.
It's with mistakes like this, that you see how making a game is not that simple of a deal.

endless mode doesn't mean hours of non-stop numbing gameplay. You gotta have some sense of progression, evolution, and especially randomness in powerups and enemy encounters. Each runs shouldn't feel so similar, otherwise there's no point in trying more than once.

And it should have a good pace so it doesn't actually takes 3 hours to complete. I know because that's what it took my friend to do it on the space combat challenge. He told me he had to open youtube on his second monitor to make it more bearable. I mean come on... you know you've failed as a game designer when players resort to this...

Kind of liked the game but this disapointed me a little bit.
progression, evolution, and randomness in powersup and enemy encounters...sooooo the entire game up to this point?

Also the mode uses all enemy types in one go instead of just one per scenario on the planets throughout the story, that's pretty much the epitome of randomness.
 

momoma

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progression, evolution, and randomness in powersup and enemy encounters...sooooo the entire game up to this point?

Also the mode uses all enemy types in one go instead of just one per scenario on the planets throughout the story, that's pretty much the epitome of randomness.
You are misunderstanding.
I'm not talking about the poor enemy variation. It's not thrilling to wonder if I'll get an enemy that shoot lasers in a trident or a cross shape in the next few seconds.

I'm talking progression and randomness in the combat flow, randomization in weapons and powers you get, the upgrades, the buffs and penaltys you or the enemies could get.
I know there's already a global upgrading system for the ship, but how about getting one tied specifically to this endless mode, with some new perks that add a little more variety than just a x% of more damage or shield, and that you'll get to upgrade from scratch on each run with possibility of trying different builds.

I'm describing basically any decent roguelike game.

I know that I might be asking for a lot, and that would require A LOT of work. That game never intended to be anything alike to begin with. I mean, the foundation of the game is too poor gameplay-wise to suddenly make it revolutionnary.
But that's unfortunately what you have to deal with if you want an endless game mode to be fun.
Or you could waste your time building a half-assed endless mode instead of working on other aspects of the game.

And Again... It should not be this long. There isn't even a way to stop and resume a run, so it's an abberation to require the player to play 3h long, especially when it's that boring. That should be a choice from the player.

Oh well, maybe we can hope for a better game in the future if they learn from their mistakes.
 
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You are misunderstanding.
I'm not talking about the poor enemy variation. It's not thrilling to wonder if I'll get an enemy that shoot lasers in a trident or a cross shape in the next few seconds.

I'm talking progression and randomness in the combat flow, randomization in weapons and powers you get, the upgrades, the buffs and penaltys you or the enemies could get.
I know there's already a global upgrading system for the ship, but how about getting one tied specifically to this endless mode, with some new perks that add a little more variety than just a x% of more damage or shield, and that you'll get to upgrade from scratch on each run with possibility of trying different builds.

I'm describing basically any decent roguelike game.

I know that I might be asking for a lot, and that would require A LOT of work. That game never intended to be anything alike to begin with. I mean, the foundation of the game is too poor gameplay-wise to suddenly make it revolutionnary.
But that's unfortunately what you have to deal with if you want an endless game mode to be fun.
Or you could waste your time building a half-assed endless mode instead of working on other aspects of the game.

And Again... It should not be this long. There isn't even a way to stop and resume a run, so it's an abberation to require the player to play 3h long, especially when it's that boring. That should be a choice from the player.

Oh well, maybe we can hope for a better game in the future if they learn from their mistakes.
At least you can cheese it with Fow by getting her sacrifice damage high enough and just spamming the map-wide
 
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