Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Meraldaza]

Anyone else just find this not fun? Their attempts at putting together a real story, and basically just slapping in porn dialog is horrendously tedious. There's also basically not middle game. Nothing to be the glue between the really boring VN scenes, and the gameplay. They just slam you awkwardly from one end to another. I was also hoping for some amount of camera control at the very least. The protagonist is awful. The writing is terrible, and the gameplay is about as basic as it gets. I guess I was hoping for too much. Just having sequences between the story dumps and the action, where you could explore the ship would be a godsend. Maybe a gallery with poses to cycle through the girls. Right now, I'm really glad I didn't drop the money on this. It doesn't even feel good for a porn game. So far, the only thing it has going for it is a variety of characters, and production value. Those both fall short when the entire system that their stuck into is so poorly implemented. Could this be refined and made more interesting and engaging? Sure. I don't have very high expectations though. At this point, I'd rather see others rip the models and do other things with them.

 

[ZimonColdres]

Glad to see they are taking feedback seriously.
What they have shown so far is precisely a foundation on which build the rest.
Curious to see how they will improve the Pandora System and the vr part.
Scared for people who will now complain about futa or if one cock is longer than another or if there are testicles or not
Guys, calm down with this fetish stuff and enjoy the game, there are more important complaints to address.
Glad to see that a way to integrate the scenes with the story might be there with the devotion quests. They say they will be on the level of those in Mass Effetc, we'll see.
More interaction on the ship, very good, at the moment it seems a bit bare, need to give more things to do.
Maybe a shower room could also be there, for, you know, doing stuff.
No ETA for now, well as long as they release a good product, I prefer that they don't rush it.
They are also thinking about mods, well this is the element that will open the Pandora's box (lol), since many things that we might not have in game, could come from modders.

 

[Nugnug96]

Glad they say they’re listening but when you say stuff like “the end results of the devotion quests will make our movies look amateurish” you better back that up and that’s a big claim and people are gonna hold on to that and use it if it’s not

 

[Atraliem]

While StudioFOW might have gotten quite as lot of money for a kickstarter or an adult game project it's still worlds away from anything you'd call triple A.

StudioFow/Zovolt is actually around 10 million USD worth, I know: Still not AAA level but yeah.
They also announced their own crypto "FowCoin" recently.

Subverse is probably just a scam scheme to get their crypto rolling.

 

[c.o.w]

i feel like that galaxy angel sim i played on newgrounds did better what subverse tried to acomplish. I give the benefict of doubt since is a 0.1, but this doens't seems well for a start

 

[Deleted member 324588]

StudioFow/Zovolt is actually around 10 million USD worth, I know: Still not AAA level but yeah.
They also announced their own crypto "FowCoin" recently.

Subverse is probably just a scam scheme to get their crypto rolling.

I don't really know anything about cryptocurrency, but do you really think a kickstarter was launched, and these folks worked their asses off to make a game like this...with several updates a month, trailers, interviews with the staff and VA's, all for a payment system they're making to help folks in counties that ban adult content to purchase said game...which is then a scam?

 

[Atraliem]

I don't really know anything about cryptocurrency, but do you really think a kickstarter was launched, and these folks worked their asses off to make a game like this...with several updates a month, trailers, interviews with the staff and VA's, all for a payment system they're making to help folks in counties that ban adult content to purchase said game...which is then a scam?

Based on the state of the game, yes.

They are selling the idea of a game, not an actual game. That they want to help people from countries with banned is their statement. They also said that Subverse will be the mass effect of adult games, what we got is a kinetic novel with two minigames and a cg gallery.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Opinions do not require factual things or final states, hence why they are opinions.

It's generally more conducive to civilized conversation to wait until such things are present, but they aren't required.

to whit:


You were saying something about proper viewing and weighting of value?

Again, as above, you can't have your cake and eat it too; either you wait and pay extra for what you can get for free on r34 because you think or want FOW to succeed for completely nonfactual reasons, or you don't do those things because you have viewed FOW's history of "interesting takes" and "for the luls" (except entirely not) behavior.

I'm not advocating EITHER of those things. What I am advocating is there is a repeated and public pattern of behavior, and any value judgements should be made accordingly, and also made by and with viewing other products of similar vein and genre.

"One time FOW made my peepee hard" isn't really an objective value I'm going to be buying a >game< for, all subject matter and forum premise aside.

Do I want Subverse to succeed? Yes. Not just cuz I'm a longtime supporter, but because I want to see the bar raised for adult games, much in the same way the SFM animation scene was raised by Lara in Trouble and Kunoichi.

There are so many posts on here just deriding the game for not being enough when they've only given us not even like 10% of the game. The later chapters will be longer, the devotion quests will be even more. And there's about 500+ more backer planets to add to the game. They're taking feedback about Pandora and already showing some possibilities of what's to come with the VR tease.

I get that people have been massively massively disappointed with games not living up to their hype. Anthem, Colonial Marines, Cyberpunk, and the like. I've seen adult games in development here for years, and they're nowhere near as complex as Subverse, yet they barely trudge from 0.1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 and hang there forever (Hi Milfy City), yet these guys managed to give us a product in 2 years, and could very well be a complete title by its 3rd KS anniversary. Who else could have pulled this off, cuz I don't see any adult developer making anything like this. Not til now.

 

[Atraliem]

Nah, the game is done. The only way to lie and sell ideas on that scale is by having an army of dumbfucks around you. Most people realized that StudioFow/Zovolt Ltd won't be the ones bringing nsfw games to the next level.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Based on the state of the game, yes.

They are selling the idea of a game, not an actual game. That they want to help people from countries with banned is their statement. They also said that Subverse will be the mass effect of adult games, what we got is a kinetic novel with two minigames and a cg gallery.

No...everyone else had been calling it the mass effect of adult games, purely because of its theme. I'm sure if it was fantasy, there'd be articles calling it the final fantasy of adult games. We've been shown throughout its dev diaries what the game was gonna be and how it was gonna look. There were also 3 trailers up on its store page leading up to launch, including one on its launch day. If you didn't look into it, that's on you.

Also those two 'minigames' are two genres that numerous games have as their primary gameplay, so...why are you just regressing the likes of Final Fantasy Tactics and Ikaruga down to minigames?

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Nah, the game is done. The only way to lie and sell ideas on that scale is by having an army of dumbfucks around you. Most people realized that StudioFow/Zovolt Ltd won't be the ones bringing nsfw games to the next level.

Very much looking forward to share this with Poorly Aged Things someday it can go right next to this one from two years ago when the KS campaign went up

 

[Washedupklay]

I thoroughly enjoyed this game, although I don't think the girls doing it with x things counts as NTR. Tag probably shouldn't be there, unless someone has heard that they plan to include NTR content?

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I thoroughly enjoyed this game, although I don't think the girls doing it with x things counts as NTR. Tag probably shouldn't be there, unless someone has heard that they plan to include NTR content?

It really shouldn't be, but enough folks cry wolf enough that its put there. I'm sure it'll get taken off eventually once the game's done, and folks realize "oh wait all the ladies are still definitely with the captain, no one got 'stolen' "

 

[KtDXXd5]

It's hard to tell from the update whether they got that a fair bit of the complaints were about the sex scenes in general not having any context at all. They talk about expanding the onboard interactions with the girls, but they don't mention tying that in with the sex. If they go all-in on interactivity for the scenes, maybe that will make up for the lack of context. Or maybe context is planned, but they don't want to talk about the details yet. The plans sound promising in general, at least.

Expanding the team means the initial sales were probably decent.

 

[aspar4gus]

I thoroughly enjoyed this game, although I don't think the girls doing it with x things counts as NTR.

Two dicks is too many dicks, also the terms they advertised to sell the game is waifu-collecting harem not public bestiality brothel ship so what are these monsters & male alien (that's not a eunuch) doing in capt's ship? if they already advertised with non-misleading words i wouldn't even complain about it, hell i wouldn't even bother trying it

 

[SomeOriginalUsername]

StudioFow/Zovolt is actually around 10 million USD worth, I know: Still not AAA level but yeah.
They also announced their own crypto "FowCoin" recently.

Subverse is probably just a scam scheme to get their crypto rolling.

My eyes glossed over when I first heard about this "FOWcoin" thing a couple days ago, but having looked up the white paper... I still think it's stupid, but I can understand why they're doing it. As I mentioned in an earlier post, there's a reason why every single non-Japanese crowdfunding/porn site doesn't allow the fictional depiction of bestiality/loli/incest/etc., and that's because payment processors will freeze all transactions the moment they receive a report their services are being used in the transactions for such content. It doesn't matter what the company's policy on the content is, at the end of the day they all have to obey the payment processors' policies if they want to see money change hand.

So it looks like StudioFOW is bypassing the restrictions imposed by traditional payment processors by using an anonymized payment processing system, which theoretically means your credit card processor can't tell when you're buying "FOWcoin" (or, to put it in a less controversial term, a cash card to buy something on StudioFOW's site) and freeze the transaction.

That being said, I didn't read all of the paper. If there's a mining mechanic then it's flat out retarded, if it's just a fancy way of saying it's an anonymized coupon system then it'd make sense.

Edit: something I missed is that it's a stablecoin, meaning it's pegged to one coin = one USD. They're not going to allow speculation on it, so that's not going to be much of a scam.

 

[FalteringRelic]

I can't be bothered to look through 130+ pages on this forum, but is there a timeline on the Chapter releases or when they hope to complete the full game?

Also, where are saves located?

 

[Razrback16]

Also, where are saves located?

I believe - C:\Users\<profile name>\AppData\Local\Subverse\Saved\SaveGames

 

[Wargen]

I've heard about this quite a long time ago. I finally play it, have some fun and suddenly there's no way to progress because there's only 5 hours of content... This is gonna end up being another summertime saga, a great game being milked for cash.

 

[Oregano696]

I've heard about this quite a long time ago. I finally play it, have some fun and suddenly there's no way to progress because there's only 5 hours of content... This is gonna end up being another summertime saga, a great game being milked for cash.

How will they milk anyone if they don't have a Patreon or any other form of monthly income? You can't milk your customers if they can only pay for your game once, thats not how milking works.