suprizesd

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The scence with Taron Bj in the ship when we are doing the main quest is not included in PANDORA? Is that missing or how can you rewatch it?
 
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Kernist

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Again, fair points. But the system isn't perfect and some people do have bias. If someone is a fan of a certain dev or genre it's possible their judgement can be colored to a degree. Also, what checks are in place to deal with the opposite of a review bomb? How about when a game gets several rave reviews despite the game being a broken buggy mess? It's not a perfect system. As I've stated before, when it comes to Studio FoW specifically I know how scummy and toxic they can be. And I have seen negative reviews on games that ended up being removed unfairly.

Aside from Steam, devs have been known to shun criticism. Many adult game makers have Discord servers. I have been in several where the dev became abusive and confrontational about constructive criticism. It's one reason I enjoy using this site to discuss the games without fear of being ganged up on or having my comments deleted just for providing honest albeit negative feedback.
Good points, also remember how positive reviews for porn games on Steam look. 80% of them are "are you winning son?" meme, gigachad image or some sort of "my family/friends saw me playing this game and I have no regrets". That's why "game is mostly negative because of chinese bots" excuse is pathetic considering how many fake positive reviews there are.
 

Eddy86

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jimmyjoo

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So where does the current build end? I got a quest on the bridge to meet Killi but there doesn't seem to be a way to move forward on that.
 

JustLittleTinyMe

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Oh good this image again. I disproved its existence a long time back, but seeing as we gotta do it again...

here's that actual image from the Kickstarter site, and you can look at it for yourself:

The milestone image is fake, the mantic page is fake:

The pregnancy system didn't make it in the game anyway, so that point is moot. And that bit about loyalty and independence is cherry picking an answer and making an entire theory out of it with 0 confirmation.


Seriously the fact that image came from a now deleted 4chan thread, really tells you all you need to know about its validity.
I didn't know about the mantic thing being faked was a thing, I'll agree that part of it is fake. The other part with the kickstarter is only that they added Netorare above the "unlocked" which I honestly hadn't even noticed was there before now, it was the description that I was focused on.
The pregnancy thing is hardly the point in it, the example/scenario still happens. Besides those two things you haven't "disproven" any of the other more valid and actual points.
And what do you even mean with "cherry-picking an answer" if that compliment is cherry-picking, then is your 1 post with an answer that says 'No, however we want the player to choose their scenes' not cherry-picking?
Your reasoning earlier that there wasn't NTR was that 'everyone horny, everyone bang' yet the game clearly has dating-sim system with 'romanceable' characters in it, which is even deepened further with the Loyalty stages, which normally would suggest deeper relationships than "Me caveman/woman, me fuck anything".

Honestly this isn't even a hill I'm willing to die on cause it's rather pointless and stupid, my point is that there are plenty of situations and scenarios in the game that happens that, especially on this site, a chunk of people would consider NTR. So telling people that there is no such thing and bait them into downloading this massive GB devouring game, then reach these scenes and feel betrayed is probably more misleading than some reddit rat photoshopping a couple images, imo.
 

JustLittleTinyMe

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Everytime there is an update, the same kind of maggots keep crawl out of the woodwork and repeat the same crap over and over. Why not just stay away if you don't like the game?

If you have valid feedback and critic, go to the steam forums and post in the actual thread for it. People that get posts/threads deleted doesn't do so because they don't listen to critic or feedback, they do so because they can't bloody act their age, break steam forum guidelines and what not.
Ah okay, so valid feedback should go to Steam ? Then it appears I've posted the correct place by posting here and not Steam then. :)(y)
 

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I didn't know about the mantic thing being faked was a thing, I'll agree that part of it is fake. The other part with the kickstarter is only that they added Netorare above the "unlocked" which I honestly hadn't even noticed was there before now, it was the description that I was focused on.
The pregnancy thing is hardly the point in it, the example/scenario still happens. Besides those two things you haven't "disproven" any of the other more valid and actual points.
And what do you even mean with "cherry-picking an answer" if that compliment is cherry-picking, then is your 1 post with an answer that says 'No, however we want the player to choose their scenes' not cherry-picking?
Your reasoning earlier that there wasn't NTR was that 'everyone horny, everyone bang' yet the game clearly has dating-sim system with 'romanceable' characters in it, which is even deepened further with the Loyalty stages, which normally would suggest deeper relationships than "Me caveman/woman, me fuck anything".

Honestly this isn't even a hill I'm willing to die on cause it's rather pointless and stupid, my point is that there are plenty of situations and scenarios in the game that happens that, especially on this site, a chunk of people would consider NTR. So telling people that there is no such thing and bait them into downloading this massive GB devouring game, then reach these scenes and feel betrayed is probably more misleading than some reddit rat photoshopping a couple images, imo.
And the word that breaks your logic is 'consider'. At that point, it is your personal feelings that override everything. As I said, by definition, this game does not have NTR.

We can run up multiple definitions, if you wanna put it to the test:

"Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other."

There is no committment to a relationship with any of the characters we've seen onboard. The Captain often refers to DEMI as his best mate. There isn't marriage, there's no rings on fingers, no one's religious besides the Imperium (aka the bad guys).

The Captain also says this: cap quote.JPG

Meaning he has no intention to stop using DEMI because he's just fucked Lily. To which Lily replies:

lily quote.JPG

At that point, you have two adults making a decision that they do not care if the other fucks anyone else.


We can throw up another one, just for a more fleshed out definition:

" A term used for a story theme that focuses on a particular type of cheating/ in a relationship in an adult-oriented real-life video, manga, or anime. The person that cheats is initially forced against their will (either physically, by being blackmailed, or by the influence of an ingested or injected mind-altering substance) by (s)/perpetrator(s) to participate in a sexual encounter but then is mind-bended to enjoy and/or accept the experience. Also, the cheater often is not fond of the instigator(s) before the encounter and may state that they love their significant other at any time in the story, but ends up deciding to continue the affair with the instigator(s) afterwards. The victim (the person being cheating on) is usually unaware of the betrayal by the cheater, and the instigator(s) if the victim knows him, her, or them. The story often hints that the victim may never know/find out about the continued affair. This theme is intended for and will end up some readers, but others will find it arousing."

The waifus aren't forced, they are independent characters.
They've never gave any indication they aren't fond of the mantics, nor is there any comparisons to the Captain
The Captain is fully aware of these activities, and is not made to feel inferior

This is literally facts over feelings. If you feel like this is NTR, then I'm sorry that you feel like the world is constantly against you that has you in such a mindset that a fictional character having an independent way of thinking somehow personally hurts you.
 
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JustLittleTinyMe

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And the word that breaks your logic is 'consider'. At that point, it is your personal feelings that override everything. As I said, by definition, this game does not have NTR.

We can run up multiple definitions, if you wanna put it to the test:

"Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other."

There is no committment to a relationship with any of the characters we've seen onboard. The Captain often refers to DEMI as his best mate. There isn't marriage, there's no rings on fingers, no one's religious besides the Imperium (aka the bad guys).

The Captain also says this:

Meaning he has no intention to stop using DEMI because he's just fucked Lily. To which Lily replies:

At that point, you have two adults making a decision that they do not care if the other fucks anyone else.


We can throw up another one, just for a more fleshed out definition:

" A term used for a story theme that focuses on a particular type of cheating/ in a relationship in an adult-oriented real-life video, manga, or anime. The person that cheats is initially forced against their will (either physically, by being blackmailed, or by the influence of an ingested or injected mind-altering substance) by (s)/perpetrator(s) to participate in a sexual encounter but then is mind-bended to enjoy and/or accept the experience. Also, the cheater often is not fond of the instigator(s) before the encounter and may state that they love their significant other at any time in the story, but ends up deciding to continue the affair with the instigator(s) afterwards. The victim (the person being cheating on) is usually unaware of the betrayal by the cheater, and the instigator(s) if the victim knows him, her, or them. The story often hints that the victim may never know/find out about the continued affair. This theme is intended for and will end up some readers, but others will find it arousing."

The waifus aren't forced, they are independent characters.
They've never gave any indication they aren't fond of the mantics, nor is there any comparisons to the Captain
The Captain is fully aware of these activities, and is not made to feel inferior

This is literally facts over feelings. If you feel like this is NTR, then I'm sorry that you feel like the world is constantly against you that has you in such a mindset that a fictional character having an independent way of thinking somehow personally hurts you.
You can pull up as many terms as you want, it still doesn't change how NTR is viewed generally on this site. You've been on this site since 2017, you should know how it rolls here by now :LOL:.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's just how it has been on this site for a long time. So if someone on here asks if it's NTR or not, then most of the time you're misleading them.
The most common way I see NTR being considered on this site is basically "If love interest fucks someone or something else then it's NTR" which by term I actually disagree with, but that is how that genre is often being seen as on this site.
Personally I wouldn't actually consider this game to be text-book NTR, but I can definitely see how it would be for others on here.
 

Lebeaubrun

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so they havent changed the pandora system to integrate it with the story at all I guess? is there some in story scenes other than rectuitment this update?
 
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JustLittleTinyMe

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Much better to be a crazy person shouting at the sky, than give feedback that actually reach the creators right?
Not too sure why you're coming off sideways at pretty much everyone you @ here, but there's literally nothing I wrote that I would even consider "feedback" to the devs. They made the game the way that it is, that's just how it is.
My only point was that there's definitely scenes and scenarios in the game that a lot of people on this site would consider NTR/cuck'ish, so it's a bit misleading to say that there is nothing of that nature at all, when considering what site we're posting on. :)
But yes, keep calling everyone maggots and crazy for not having the same view or opinion as you, it's a trait that'll get you.. Somewhere I suppose. (y)
 

j4yj4m

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Not too sure why you're coming off sideways at pretty much everyone you @ here, but there's literally nothing I wrote that I would even consider "feedback" to the devs. They made the game the way that it is, that's just how it is.
My only point was that there's definitely scenes and scenarios in the game that a lot of people on this site would consider NTR/cuck'ish, so it's a bit misleading to say that there is nothing of that nature at all, when considering what site we're posting on. :)
But yes, keep calling everyone maggots and crazy for not having the same view or opinion as you, it's a trait that'll get you.. Somewhere I suppose. (y)
It's pretty much futile. As soon as you even attempt to discuss anything in here these two will shut it down right away. It's been like that from the beginning and I doubt it's ever going to change. It's best to move on and just play the game if you like it.
 
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JustLittleTinyMe

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It's pretty much futile. As soon as you even attempt to discuss anything in here these two will shut it down right away. It's been like that from the beginning and I doubt it's ever going to change. It's best to move on and just play the game if you like it.
So it seems, though I can understand their clear frustration and anger that people disagree with their opinions on it, cause it isn't text-book NTR but it's close enough for a lot of people on this site to consider it as that, so it is what it is.
 
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