Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[YeetBrowler]

Reviews may say it, but the devs and the VA's have all mentioned it being a game with porn, not just a porn game.





They don't need to be dynamic or clickable like every other game. That they play in real time is already significantly different from your average VN.

Are you disappointed about any part of this game or do you just ride?

 

[Febui]

Just gonna correct a bit here, but the grid combat is more in line with the Final Fantasy Tactics series. Most people just attributed it to XCOM because it’s recent and also featured aliens

I don't want to insult FF Tactics like that, so I'm sticking to x-com as the comparison
But it would be a horrible attempt at Tactics too, you're right.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Are you disappointed about any part of this game or do you just ride?

no I wouldn't call it a 10/10. Its an in development title. Clearly there's things to work on, but I ain't gonna pretend this isn't the best adult-themed game we've ever had. Like I can't really go back to just reading text VN's with no voices, or the various number of lookalike Renpy games. This raised the bar imo.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I don't want to insult FF Tactics like that, so I'm sticking to x-com as the comparison
But it would be a horrible attempt at Tactics too, you're right.

"its taking after this"

"Okay well its not precisely that either, therefore horrible"

You gotta have better arguments then that. They picked two simple modes that could be made to be fast-paced. Not a basic match-3, or click the bubbles as they appear. Working within the limits of what they have. If they'd gone for something more complex, we'd probably be 5 updates in the past.

 

[Febui]

You gotta have better arguments then that.

I'm not sure you read my post, which says "you're right" on it

If they'd gone for something more complex, we'd probably be 5 updates in the past

I'd be quite happy with this. More complex maps would take longer, and of course that'd add up, and if that means it slows down to 5 fewer updates of progress by this point in time, it's a pretty good tradeoff. That isn't bad at all. Good H-games are a very rare treat, and I like to see it.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I'm not sure you read my post, which says "you're right" on it
I'd be quite happy with this. More complex maps would take longer, and of course that'd add up, and if that means it slows down to 5 fewer updates of progress by this point in time, it's a pretty good tradeoff. That isn't bad at all. Good H-games are a very rare treat, and I like to see it.

The thing is though they don't have a support system, they're strictly working with what they got from Kickstarter. So the game devs they've hired aren't working for free, they're legit contracted to work with them. So right now the priority is finishing what's there. Anything else like refinements, system changes, additional scenes, the backer DLC, can be done afterwards.

They didn't ask for more money because they don't want to become like say Star Citizen, which took on more and more money, leading to tons of feature creep.

So for what they got, and what they've done with it, without any real slowdown besides the initial launch (which had a myriad of good reasons, like bringing on new staff and the lead dev going on paternity leave), they've stuck to consistent 3-4 month updates. Now they're on the verge of finishing, possibly even this year if we're lucky.

 

[Febui]

The thing is though they don't have a support system, they're strictly working with what they got from Kickstarter.

Only having the shoot-em-up mode would also have been an upgrade. And more effort to merge sex scenes into the game through writing events could fit in better. Rather than doing one mode really badly, just do one less mode.

You present the tradeoff being slowing down, but if it's the money pool that is the real kicker, the better tactic is narrowing the scope and doing fewer things, but better

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Only having the shoot-em-up mode would also have been an upgrade. And more effort to merge sex scenes into the game through writing events could fit in better. Rather than doing one mode really badly, just do one less mode.

You present the tradeoff being slowing down, but if it's the money pool that is the real kicker, the better tactic is narrowing the scope and doing fewer things, but better

I rather like the grid combat, seeing as the waifus are actual trained fighters, it provides an avenue to show what they can do and why we’re recruiting them in the first place. In the ship they’re the copilots, so if it’d only been that, you could only show off their skills via cinematics. Which is a thing I detest in games when coolness is only shown off in cutscenes xD

 

[Febui]

I rather like the grid combat, seeing as the waifus are actual trained fighters, it provides an avenue to show what they can do and why we’re recruiting them in the first place.

Fair point, but I think if you cut the underdone mode, you have room for making more ship designs and portraying girls in action that way. (and of course even less excuse to not handle the porn well)
It's pure what-if-ery since the game's already been written and designed for years with both modes, but I do believe it'd have turned out a better, tighter experience without the grid combat.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Fair point, but I think if you cut the underdone mode, you have room for making more ship designs and portraying girls in action that way. (and of course even less excuse to not handle the porn well)
It's pure what-if-ery since the game's already been written and designed for years with both modes, but I do believe it'd have turned out a better, tighter experience without the grid combat.

Agreed in that its obviously too late to change. And if game history has shown anything, trying to change things vastly in the midst of development can end up with disastrous results. This is why things they've mentioned like the Pandora overhaul aren't likely to occur til after the game is at 1.0 and all the intended scenes are there.

 

[kagome999]

the game is 5% porn the rest is trash even illusion games top subverse ages ago to me anyway

 

[SilverFJPC21]

Haven't played this since it first came out. Are the sex scenes still just some normal animations you buy and see without any interaction or stages, or have they added more depth to them?

 

[SpicyHotBeef]

Reviews may say it, but the devs and the VA's have all mentioned it being a game with porn, not just a porn game.

Yeeaah for me I've come to accept it for what it is--and it being the Cyberpunk 2077 of porn games.
Still looking forward to that Pandora system overhaul though.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Yeeaah for me I've come to accept it for what it is--and it being the Cyberpunk 2077 of porn games.
Still looking forward to that Pandora system overhaul though.

So we should be expecting that Keanu appearance anyday now, sweet

 

[Redboi8]

So we should be expecting that Keanu appearance anyway now, sweet

Keanu - best waifu! <3

 

[CaperAdInfernus]

Miss this studio when it was focused on movies with sex without consent! Now it's just happiness in the few sex scenes of this bad game!

 

[deiter69]

Reviews may say it, but the devs and the VA's have all mentioned it being a game with porn, not just a porn game.

I love this argument, it makes the game look even worse in comparison with actual good games instead of the low standards of porn games.

They don't need to be dynamic or clickable like every other game. That they play in real time is already significantly different from your average VN.

Yeah, it has all of the drawbacks of real time and none of the benefits, because you only watch the scenes from one angle anyways, you know, like your average VN!

 

[DynamoThunder]

Yes? That tends to happen when a developer actually updates their game frequently.

i wouldnt call it frequent, but pointman is an idiot for suggesting they're not trying to deliver

 

[Deleted member 324588]

i wouldnt call it frequent, but pointman is an idiot for suggesting they're not trying to deliver

Depends on what you’re comparing it to. NLT might be doing it every two weeks, but I wouldn’t call those substantial. Heck at this point I’ve been fully waiting out for Genesis Order to be complete, I couldn’t take the brief time you get to play when I did for Treasure of Nadia.

But in comparison to say Milfy City or Something Unlimited, hoo boy there is a noticeable difference. And those folks are doing significantly less challenging builds for their efforts.

 

[PANDAemic]

Here's my save file for up to 0.8

All Pandora scenes unlocked for all girls
Extra Pandora Points for each girl for future updates
All girls level 40
All girls devotion 40
Maxed out ship
All Mantics unlocked
All Mantics level 40
All Side Quest complete
Majority of anamolies completed

Almost as complete as it gets, I'll eventually complete the anamolies when they fix the tracker since its bugged.