prodigy

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Guys just need to stop jumping on the hype train and setting their expectations so high. The game is actually pretty enjoyable if you take it as it is and have no real expectations for it.
I did, and I feelt like I'm playing flashgame on newgrounds form 10 years ago. You could find better thought through games here and with percentage of budget of this thing.
 

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But does anyone know if the game is over or is it only a first part, I have already done the first act and I can not advance anymore, please help
 

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Thats an exaggeration and you know it.
Not really, as I can't give you example of good flash games from 10 years ago, I did not write that they were good but on other hand i can give you examples of pron games with actuall good gameplay as old as those. On top of my mind, segoku rance, lula sexy empire and ect. And I'm quiet sure they were ran on lower budget as this.
 

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As far as the MC goes, remember this: Studio FOW are animators, not game designers. They do fixed scenes with fixed characters and that's it. So it should be no surprise that the MC is a fixed character stuck in a fixed plot with fixed dialog. Options & choices fall under the realm of game design, which is something that they had no experience with until now.

That this should play out like a long series of Studio FOW animations sprinkled with some minigames to act as speedbumps shouldn't surprise anyone. It's like when Bethesda made Fallout76. Sure they knew Fallout, but had they ever even tried to do a MMO before?

The game you want doesn't exist but I can tell you how it could: If, instead of trying to do everything themselves, Studio FOW teamed up with an experienced game developer to create something grand. Let the veteran game designer work out the mechanics, the open world, the character customization, dialog and plot... and let Studio FOW make great animations to go with it.

Of course it's too late now, but maybe if they do a sequel they'll keep that idea in mind.
 

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The game you want doesn't exist but I can tell you how it could: If, instead of trying to do everything themselves, Studio FOW teamed up with an experienced game developer to create something grand. Let the veteran game designer work out the mechanics, the open world, the character customization, dialog and plot... and let Studio FOW make great animations to go with it.
You are aware that FOW themselves only made the animations for this game, and did things like the UI art, and the game parts were made by a person they brought on specifically for this project that had experience with making games in unreal engine?

They even went over this back during the initial Kickstarter announcement. The people who animated the movies, like Kunoichi, where not the ones who made the game parts of this game.
 
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Not really, as I can't give you example of good flash games from 10, I did not write that they were good but on other hand i can give you examples of pron games with actuall good gameplay as old as those. On top of my mind, segoku rance, lula sexy empire and ect. And I'm quiet sure they were run on lower budget as this.
But they were also a lot smaller in scope and generally lesser in the presentation department. Also the budget isn't as big as everyone says. $2 million only sounds like a lot of money, but as far as game development is concerned, its not. Have better games been made for less? Yes. Were they generally simpler and less ambitious? Also yes.
 
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prodigy

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But they were also a lot smaller in scope and generally lesser in the presentation department. Also the budget isn't as big as everyone says. $2 million only sounds like a lot of money, but as far as game development is concerned, its not. Have better games been made for less? Yes. Were they generally simpler and less ambitious? Also yes.
Maybe Subverse was ambitious but they not ever close to be called complex. This 2 games what I reccalled had more complexity in each stage (yes they had multiple stages with different gameplay!) than this abomination of a game.
 
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Maybe Subverse was ambitious but they not ever close to be called complex. This 2 games what I reccalled had more complexity in each stage (yes they had multiple stages with different gameplay!) than this abomination of a game.
Why am I even arguing with you? If you don't like the game that's your problem, quit trying to make it mine too.
 
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prodigy

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Why am I even arguing with you? If you don't like the game that's your problem, quit trying to make it mine too.
I'm not arguing, you insist that his thing is something grand and complex, you were one writting that other games were simpler and that lands far from truth. It looks like you want to convince yourself or you just lack or experience with other games.
 

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I'm not arguing, you insist that his thing is something grand and complex, you were one writting that other games were simpler and that lands far from truth. It looks like you want to convince yourself or you just lack or experience with other games.
Thanks for pointing that one out to me, galaxy brain. I'll get back to you when I grow a taste for quality.
 

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Thanks for pointing that one out to me, galaxy brain. I'll get back to you when I grow a taste for quality.
Oh, it is one me now? Ok you win this game is grand and complex, in size of which it take on hard drive- it beat crap of that old games that did not even reach 1gb in size. I hope that you happy now that you won this contest!
 

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Oh, it is one me now? Ok you win this game is grand and complex, in size of which it take on hard drive- it beat crap of that old games that did not even reach 1gb in size. I hope that you happy now that you won this contest!
Thank you for conceding so graciously. It feels good to be right for once.
 
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