Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Deleted member 324588]

So we’ve got *reads*

complaining about the Pandora system still, despite it being stated that the revamp wouldn’t be coming til AFTER this update.

back and forths on the mantic scenes being disconnected. That’ll just lead into the continuous ‘but my waifus must be pure, even the new girl that’s a pornstar that wants to fuck everything’.

her recruitment plot line is more or less the theme of the game. Fighting back against an oppressive regime that tries to outlaw sex by fucking whoever you want whenever you want is the ultimate expression of freedom in Prodigium.

And of course the length discussion, despite there now being numerous scenes in the game. *and still only among 4 girls*. Think y’all are seriously underestimating how much there’s gonna be to view by the time they get to the end of it. I found out the devotion levels after 20 award 2 points per level, which already indicates there’s gonna be a toooon more scenes. If 30+ gives 3 points per level, the ceiling is gonna be really damn high.

anyway, I had quite a lot of fun with the gameplay, the kloi are pretty challenging, and there’s some level 2 scenarios for bigger challenges. With replayable missions confirmed to be a thing eventually, doubt anyone can say there isn’t enough to do.

cheers, cya when the next inevitable NTR discussions wastes another 2 or 3 pages

 

[RandoCard3]

I honestly couldn't care less about how the sex scenes are presented any more due to it's shallow porno logic tone. The Captain just feels like a Deadpool parody. I'm only really here to see some nice looking sex scenes and the shmup sections.

They should have gone with a more Mass Effect 3: Citadel tone. Fun and light hearted, but capable of being real when it matters. Or the Guardians of the Galaxy films tone. As-is, I just feel like I'm watching a porn parody. Which is a shame, because there is some good lore there.

Still looking forward to the new update though. It just feels like they miss a good opportunity with this game.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I honestly couldn't care less about how the sex scenes are presented any more due to it's shallow porno logic tone. The Captain just feels like a Deadpool parody. I'm only really here to see some nice looking sex scenes and the shmup sections.

They should have gone with a more Mass Effect 3: Citadel tone. Fun and light hearted, but capable of being real when it matters. Or the Guardians of the Galaxy films tone. As-is, I just feel like I'm watching a porn parody. Which is a shame, because there is some good lore there.

Still looking forward to the new update though. It just feels like they miss a good opportunity with this game.

A porn parody from the Studio known for making porn parodies. Ya don't say?

Also despite everyone assuming its a Deadpool reference, the Captain's actually based off of the Hentai Kamen protagonist.

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There are real moments as you buiild up devotion points with the ladies, that's all building to their personal devotion quests, which'll be capped off with the 'nice looking sex scene' you're likely looking for. I get we'd all like for Pandora to be short film length, but that's just not realistic for a game, let alone their first one. Also I'd shudder to think of the overall game size if it were, it'd probably overdo COD xD

 

[orrayt3x]

A porn parody from the Studio known for making porn parodies. Ya don't say?

Also despite everyone assuming its a Deadpool reference, the Captain's actually based off of the Hentai Kamen protagonist.

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Nope, the only thing "hentai kamen" about the captain is the panty mask. Everything personality-wise is deadpool.

 

[RandoCard3]

A porn parody from the Studio known for making porn parodies. Ya don't say?

Also despite everyone assuming its a Deadpool reference, the Captain's actually based off of the Hentai Kamen protagonist.

You must be registered to see the links

There are real moments as you buiild up devotion points with the ladies, that's all building to their personal devotion quests, which'll be capped off with the 'nice looking sex scene' you're likely looking for. I get we'd all like for Pandora to be short film length, but that's just not realistic for a game, let alone their first one. Also I'd shudder to think of the overall game size if it were, it'd probably overdo COD xD

That's my mistake on missing the reference. I think I did know that's who he's based on, but I've never seen that film so I forgot. I think someone corrected me back during the initial release actually. So, that's my bad.

I don't mind how the scenes are at the moment. 50+ more of what we already have seems like a solid update to me. It's the general tone that bothers me. It makes it hard to get overly invested in anything. A hedonistic counterculture in response to a puritan authoritarian government is a solid setting for porn game regardless of the genre, but the tone makes it feel somewhat shallow. The Captain's and the Russian General's designs also make it hard to take any scenes with them in seriously.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Nope, the only thing "hentai kamen" about the captain is the panty mask. Everything personality-wise is deadpool.

I don't remember deadpool being australian. Also silly fourth wall breaking humor isn't exactly owned by deadpool, most people just make that comparison because of his popularity due to the movies and the mask.

 

[orrayt3x]

I don't remember deadpool being australian. Also silly fourth wall breaking humor isn't exactly owned by deadpool, most people just make that comparison because of his popularity due to the movies and the mask.

Change "silly fourth wall breaking humor", with "panty masks" and you can literally say the same thing about Hentai Kamen. If anything, Shimoneta is the closest thing to subverse's plot; a pottymouthed Hero wearing a panty mask, fighting against a conservative government who is trying to ban all lewd things.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Change "silly fourth wall breaking humor", with "panty masks" and you can literally say the same thing about Hentai Kamen. If anything, Shimoneta is the closest thing to subverse's plot; a pottymouthed Hero wearing a panty mask, fighting against a conservative government who is trying to ban all lewd things.
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Well I specified Hentai Kamen cuz that's what the devs literally stated. Haven't heard of that one, will have to go looking

 

[WaterDealer]

Played through the game, and honestly for a studio with more than 5 employees working around 7 months, this was a letdown. The new Pandora scenes felt like they lacked inspiration, the story regarding the kloi was barely interesting, and the ground combat was slightly more intriguing only due to higher mob hp and damage.
Edit: The cinematics were gorgeous, not gonna lie, but it feels like they've spent far too much time on them instead of making the gameplay fun and engaging.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Eh... are they?
Quality wise, I'd say they aren't bad, just that they have no progression or pacing.

If you add a textbox, dialogue, insertion and creampie animations to all of the scenes, you'd do the whole context thing and be done.

LI? I don't get it.

The scenes in pandora is a reward you get for unlock them with points you make play the game. If you just extract the scenes and don't play the game at all, they equal to the same as just extract any images/anims from any games on this site without actually play the game/story at all.

Would you want someone to rate your game based on the lewd animations in "Sex Machine" alone and disregard anything else that make the game?

 

[Ragnarok97]

Can anyone upload the save with all things done and all new scenes unlocked?

 

[TheUnsaid]

The scenes in pandora is a reward you get for unlock them with points you make play the game. If you just extract the scenes and don't play the game at all, they equal to the same as just extract any images/anims from any games on this site without actually play the game/story at all.

Would you want someone to rate your game based on the lewd animations in "Sex Machine" alone and disregard anything else that make the game?

That statement would hold weight if Pandora wasn't a separate existence from the main game.

For most other games, there's context for the scenes.

Example:
In Evenicle, the first scene with Ramius is one in which she's drugged with a poison called Adam and is about to be gangraped by miscreants. The drug stimulates her sexually and makes it hard for her to resist even though she would normally never lose to a bunch of thugs.

That scene is an emotional scene, because in that world, once you have sex with a person, the goddess of that world gives you a magical ring meaning you're married. If you have sex with more than one person your ring turns black and you lose the goddesses favor. Plants you plant don't grow. You have bad luck. Monsters will attack you more often and you lose your place in society.

Getting gangraped is actually a terrible thing to happen to a person. Even more so in that world.

But she's drugged with Adam and at this rate she either has sex to cure the poison, or have sex with a random stranger. Protagonist is her first time after he saves her from this precarious position. He takes it easy on her, understanding her emotional state, and makes sure she knows he'll take care of her, and is generally emotionally supportive throughout the scene.

The scene overall ties in to the overall narrative, has a strong character moment for the heroine and the hero, and shapes the nature of their relationship at it's start so that more growth happens later.

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Regarding my game, if people just wanted to see the sex scenes they'd be doing themselves a disservice. But that's because the sex scenes are the actual battles. There's interactivity going on around it, where the scene's speed changes based on actions either party takes or the protagonist cums based on certain values.

Viewing the scenes as a gif doesn't give you the exact same experience you'd get viewing the scene as a battle while playing the game.

It's not comparable.
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Just gonna add that what I said was:
" If you add a textbox, dialogue, insertion and creampie animations to all of the scenes, you'd do the whole context thing and be done. "

Whether or not the developer's want context is an entirely separate discussion. Personally I think context improves the eroticism of the scenario and if they wanted to do it, I outlined a simple method.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Just gonna add that what I said was:
" If you add a textbox, dialogue, insertion and creampie animations to all of the scenes, you'd do the whole context thing and be done. "

Whether or not the developer's want context is an entirely separate discussion. Personally I think context improves the eroticism of the scenario and if they wanted to do it, I outlined a simple method.

It's not comparable.

You can play through Subverse without unlock any scenes in Pandora. . It just give you a option to unlock scenes that tickle your fancy. There is no need for a larger story around, or context to these scenes, they just there for you to get excited about (or not).

 

[TheUnsaid]

There is no need for a larger story around, or context to these scenes, they just there for you to get excited about (or not).

I hear your opinion and I respect it. People are different.
I respectfully disagree though

Context in a scene surprisingly has multiple uses.

1) It can naturally improve the eroticism of a scene type. If one day your character wakes up from bed, and your girlfriend character is giving you a blowjob, the scene has the context of, "I woke up to a blowjob."

If you just unlock a blowjob animation on a bed, it's just a blowjob animation on a bed.

Even if you don't add any dialogue to, "I woke up to a blowjob," I believe the, "I woke up to a blowjob" scenario is much hotter than just the blowjob animation on a bed. The scenes can even be the same and have no dialogue but one would be innately hotter in my opinion than the other just from the context.

One is a blowjob you're getting for whatever reason. The other is the girl being so horny and desiring your body so strongly, she decides to give you a small present as you wake up.

2) Context is a vessel for character dynamics.

Characters don't stop having personalities as soon as they get bedded. If a scene is missionary, you can make the context of that scene, "woman's first experience." Maybe that scene is more about the man getting the woman wet, seeing her breathe heavily in excitement and nervousness as he slowly inches in, waits for her to calm down as he presses onwards pushing her initial fear and feeling of pain slowly but surely into pleasure.

Or... it could be the 900th time you've had missionary sex.

Instead of her going to bed, she grabs you by the neck and pulls you into bed. Her feet are clutched around your back saying she doesn't want you to pull back, and as you press in, she needed a lot less preperation and is wet in anticipation for the sexual pleasure that she knows is coming.

Same scene. Different context.

The character dynamic in this instance, is how comfortable the characters are with each other physically.

3) It's useful for establishing relationship dynamics and changes.

A scene where Killi's being pounded by a mantic from behind changes based on context.

Did Killi get frustrated by the lack of battle going on and decide to ask Lily to cook her up a mantic battle opponent and then lose? The mantic beat Killi, and Lily approaches saying, that she made this specific mantic's battlelust also affect his actual lust. Killi tired and exhausted from fighting at full strength has no power to resist as the hulking mantic pins her to the ground and makes use of her body.

Or....

Killi got frustrated sexually. She keeps buying bigger and bigger dildos and nothing is bringing her the pleasure she wants. She's extremely horny, so she goes and asks Lily to cook her up something special. Lily's mantic is brought to life, and Killi gets near the bed and puts her ass up. The mantic sees this and drives into her as Killi is finally getting what she wants.

Exact same visual imagery.
Killi doggystyled by mantic.

Context of the scene decided who was leading, and could be the deciding factor of erotic preference for some people.

The relationship dynamic here is who is leading the scene?

 

[Joshua Tree]

I hear your opinion and I respect it. People are different.
I respectfully disagree though

Context in a scene surprisingly has multiple uses.

1) It can naturally improve the eroticism of a scene type. If one day your character wakes up from bed, and your girlfriend character is giving you a blowjob, the scene has the context of, "I woke up to a blowjob."

If you just unlock a blowjob animation on a bed, it's just a blowjob animation on a bed.

Even if you don't add any dialogue to, "I woke up to a blowjob," I believe the, "I woke up to a blowjob" scenario is much hotter than just the blowjob animation on a bed. The scenes can even be the same and have no dialogue but one would be innately hotter in my opinion than the other.

2) Context is a vessel for character dynamics.

Characters don't stop having personalities as soon as they get bedded. If a scene is missionary, you can make the context of that scene, "woman's first experience." Maybe that scene is more about the man getting the woman wet, seeing her breathe heavily in excitement and nervousness as he slowly inches in, waits for her to calm down as he presses onwards pushing her initial fear and feeling of pain slowly but surely into pleasure.

Or... it could be the 900th time you've had missionary sex.

Instead of her going to bed, she grabs you by the neck and pulls you into bed. Her feet are clutched around your back saying she doesn't want you to pull back, and as you press in, she needed a lot less preperation and is wet in anticipation for the sexual pleasure that she knows is coming.

Same scene. Different context.

3) It's useful for establishing relationship dynamics and changes.

A scene where Killi's being pounded by a mantic from behind changes based on context.

Did Killi get frustrated by the lack of battle going on and decide to ask Lily to cook her up a mantic battle opponent and then lose? The mantic beat Killi, and Lily approaches saying, that she made this specific mantic's battlelust also affect his actual lust. Killi tired and exhausted from fighting at full strength has no power to resist as the hulking mantic pins her to the ground and makes use of her body.

Or....

Killi got frustrated sexually. She keeps buying bigger and bigger dildos and nothing is bringing her the pleasure she wants. She's extremely horny, so she goes and asks Lily to cook her up something special. Lily's mantic is brought to life, and Killi gets near the bed and puts her ass up. The mantic sees this and drives into her as Killi is finally getting what she wants.

Exact same visual imagery.
Killi doggystyled by mantic.

Context of the scene decided who was leading, and could be the deciding factor of erotic preference for some people.

When something become optional at that level, it loose any context what so ever. It doesn't need a larger story. It's like watch the center fold in some lewd magazine. It doesn't need a larger story to go with it, it's just there to get you excited (or not).
What Pandora does is make you pick your fetish or poison if you so desire.

You can play through the game and ignore pandora what so ever. Some games on this site have mechanics where you solve puzzles and what not to unlock extra images. Do they need a whole story around them or are they just there to get you excited about?

If you watch some random porn clip on pornhub or whatever site you prefer. Do you need a larger context to what going on in that scene as well?

 

[TheUnsaid]

When something become optional at that level, it loose any context what so ever.

No it doesn't. Each optional scene can have context on their own.

For instance, you can make it so the wake up blowjob never happens, and it'll still have context when it happens.

It's like watch the center fold in some lewd magazine. It doesn't need a larger story to go with it, it's just there to get you excited (or not).

The erotic design of a lewd magazine and an erotic video game are different.

Games are interactive so they should play to their strengths of being interactive when it comes to how things are designed around it.

What Pandora does is make you pick your fetish or poison if you so desire.

I think this is a good mentality, but again that doesn't mean you need to sacrifice all context to do it. That idea with Killi and the mantics I stated before can work even with a Pandora, "pick your fetish" system.

In fact, you cannot unlock some Pandora scenes right now without making certain mantics so there's a small understanding of this.

You can play through the game and ignore pandora what so ever.

Almost.
The sexual content that happens in Pandora is all canon. You cannot avoid the sexual proclivities of the female heroines in the main story since they talk about their sexual escapades in the main narrative.

Even if you never unlock a single scene of Lily fucking a mantic, she still fucks mantics.

Some games on this site have mechanics where you solve puzzles and what not to unlock extra images. Do they need a whole story around them or are they just there to get you excited about?

This whole time it's been a discussion right?

I'm not saying I'm objectively right on this, and that you're objectively wrong. I'm just saying I disagree with your opinion and believe context can improve eroticism.
Those simple puzzle games where you unlock extra images, would indeed be more erotic if after you got the full image, it was a full scene with something happening in my opinion.

If you watch some random porn clip on pornhub or whatever site you prefer. Do you need a larger context to what going on in that scene as well?

There's a difference between what porn videos can do, and what porn video games can do. The two should have different expectations because they're different media.

Just like how expectations for books and 2 hour movies are completely different on a character writing standpoint.

 

[Cormac]

Sorry if I couldn't see this here, but, has the new game update been posted here or will they still post it? Just to know

 

[Joshua Tree]

There's a difference between what porn videos can do, and what porn video games can do. The two should have different expectations because they're different media.

Just like how expectations for books and 2 hour movies are completely different on a character writing standpoint.

When someone upload the pandora scenes to pornhub, and some rando dude click on the clips... what does that person care about context other than what's going when watching? People in this thread that just do the same, watch the scenes from pandora and ignoring the game else, what do they care about context?

You wish for Pandora to be something greater than it is. That's fine, but it is what it is. Extra optional lewdness you can unlock to get excited about. With the huge amount of scenes in Pandora when the game is completed, to expect a story around each scene and context wouldn't really be possible. Nor tie the scenes individually into the game as a part of the story as some people want. You have to look at it realistic.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Sorry if I couldn't see this here, but, has the new game update been posted here or will they still post it? Just to know

It get posted when and if it get available. Just make room for a 25gb download and be patient

 

[Cormac]

It get posted when and if it get available. Just make room for a 25gb download and be patient

Oh, thanks c: