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Just gonna gloss over the joke (which doesn’t really work, just look at the account dates)

There’s currently 114 scenes within Pandora at the present time. With only 5 girls that aren’t even maxed out in devotion yet, which means there’ll be even more for them to unlock.
Reminder that more than half of the Pandora scenes are duplicate model swaps.

How would you go about putting all of that into the main story?
You don't have to put them into the story narrative. They can be avoidable scenes. Originally, we were promised that we could encounter sex with Mantics during downtime in the ship, before they backtracked all of that stuff. Lily's Pandora scenes would be the easiest to implement. You could find her having sex with them randomly while entering her lab, or have them be special scenes of her "testing" their capabilities whenever a new one is unlocked. The majority of Mantic scenes in general could directly be related and caused by Lily's antics, like how the few doujins Subverse had made all related to their plots being related to Lily's experiments.

Remember when StudioFow described these?

"Whilst walking past the Laboratory, the player can hear sexually suggestive moans coming from within as a bipedal alien stud called Bulgetto pleasures your Chief Science Officer. There is nothing you can do about this, so don't even try."

"An enigmatic alien known only as Chodestool will engage in doggystyle copulation with various crew members if you forget to feed him"



Bear in mind not every scene is not something the general audience will like, see the people that think mantic sex is NTR.
The one's who complain to the extreme about that stuff will still put up a fuss over Pandora or any kind of update to it. Many suggestions have been made as to how to appease these people, one of which is to give players an option in the main menu to turn off Mantic sex scenes from occurring in the game. There are even some hentai games with avoidable rape scenes of the protagonist's heroine's that allow players to turn them off or avoid viewing them.

You’ll also need to rewrite the script, create a method for what unlocks what.
They already have these methods used for other things in the game right now. You would just use those same scripts and flags for different scenes. The script they have which triggers a devotion sex scene after dialogue would literally just need to take you to a mantic scene instead. There is no major changes that would need to be made. The same applies to the current flag system they have for new NPC dialogue unlocks within the ship as well.

pay the VA’s even more than what they’ve already done to do more lines.
Well, their original advertisement, promises, and Q/A pointed to us getting Mantic scenes that were more than just loops. If every change is going to go back to "but they'll have to pay the VA's", then maybe they shouldn't make such big promises they can't keep? Maybe they shouldn't have milestones for raising X amount of dollars for those kind of scenes if they're still going to say "sorry, but budget".

Also, they don't HAVE to voice dialogue for those scenes in the worst case scenario. We already have a dialogue system with model bust-ups they can use to contextualize scenes without needing to use voice audio. In fact, this solution right here would cost them very little money to implement. I can explain further how they'd just re-use already made assets to have Mantic scenes with context added to the ship.

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TL;DR: People have given them all kinds of feedback, many extremely unreasonable, many very reasonable, and many with complete understanding of their technical limitations. It's very tiring how some of us here will continue to act like nobody has referred these things every 20+ pages, as if it hasn't been discussed already here or on the various places Subverse gets ots feedback.
 
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You don't have to put them into the story narrative. They can be avoidable scenes. Originally, we were promised that we could encounter sex with Mantics during downtime in the ship, before they backtracked all of that stuff. Lily's Pandora scenes would be the easiest to implement. You could find her having sex with them randomly while entering her lab, or have them be special scenes of her "testing" their capabilities whenever a new one is unlocked. The majority of Mantic scenes in general could directly be related and caused by Lily's antics, like how the few doujins Subverse had made all related to their plots being related to Lily's experiments.

Remember when StudioFow described these?

"Whilst walking past the Laboratory, the player can hear sexually suggestive moans coming from within as a bipedal alien stud called Bulgetto pleasures your Chief Science Officer. There is nothing you can do about this, so don't even try."

"An enigmatic alien known only as Chodestool will engage in doggystyle copulation with various crew members if you forget to feed him"

Well, their original advertisement, promises, and Q/A pointed to us getting Mantic scenes that were more than just loops. If every change is going to go back to "but they'll have to pay the VA's", then maybe they shouldn't make such big promises they can't keep? Maybe they shouldn't have milestones for raising X amount of dollars for those kind of scenes if they're still going to say "sorry, but budget".
There's really no defense against this. If they delivered what they promised this game would be amazing. But honestly, I'm not angry at this point, just sad and disappointed that Subverse will go down as just another miss from devs trying to make a more "AAA/mainstream" adult game.
 
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this game its a wasted opportunity. just make the gameplay like summertime saga but in 3D and deep story or like last hope, its way better than space combat with boomer joke.
 

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The fact that this game amassed such funding, yet they hire interns to work full time as a project for their resume should tell you all you need to know about where this game is headed.
 
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Lol this one is so fkn scummy. Any time some one blame your favourite dev a milker, show this...
 

Radon671

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These guys are known mainly for rape monster porn,are you really surprised they are scummy outside of their weird tastes?
They got millions $ of funding, this game could be just completely outsourced. Instead they just spend all money and did this sht.
 

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Well, after V.0.4 removed half the space and ground missions from the game, (All Tier 2 missions + all plans for future Tier 2 and 3 missions) I was concerned about the games direction under the new manager. (rip Tibold.) The new dev diary sounds particularly concerning.

They intend to have fewer missions in upcoming updates - "Subverse is not a mobile game"
Fewer sex scenes during the story "Sex for the sake of sex is just going to exacerbate the problem".
Cancelled plans for future interactive sex scenes - "Considering the amount of effort required".
Are removing the ability to replay story missions, because you "Cant replay Virmire in Mass Effect or Ostagar in dragon age".
They're also developing a New Vegas-styled reputation system for enemy factions, a year into early access, for some reason.

Between feature-creep and content-removal, the new manager seems less competent than the prior one, which says something.
 

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Well, after V.0.4 removed half the space and ground missions from the game, (All Tier 2 missions + all plans for future Tier 2 and 3 missions) I was concerned about the games direction under the new manager. (rip Tibold.) The new dev diary sounds particularly concerning.

They intend to have fewer missions in upcoming updates - "Subverse is not a mobile game"
Fewer sex scenes during the story "Sex for the sake of sex is just going to exacerbate the problem".
Cancelled plans for future interactive sex scenes - "Considering the amount of effort required".
Are removing the ability to replay story missions, because you "Cant replay Virmire in Mass Effect or Ostagar in dragon age".
They're also developing a New Vegas-styled reputation system for enemy factions, a year into early access, for some reason.

Between feature-creep and content-removal, the new manager seems less competent than the prior one, which says something.
Half is a bit much, there were a few tier 2 missions added to Dragon.
 

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Well reading it now...yeah pretty much looks like they heard everything.



Now to guess what the next complaint will be...something like 'they're trying to do too much?'
 

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Well, after V.0.4 removed half the space and ground missions from the game, (All Tier 2 missions + all plans for future Tier 2 and 3 missions) I was concerned about the games direction under the new manager. (rip Tibold.) The new dev diary sounds particularly concerning.

They intend to have fewer missions in upcoming updates - "Subverse is not a mobile game"
Fewer sex scenes during the story "Sex for the sake of sex is just going to exacerbate the problem".
Cancelled plans for future interactive sex scenes - "Considering the amount of effort required".
Are removing the ability to replay story missions, because you "Cant replay Virmire in Mass Effect or Ostagar in dragon age".
They're also developing a New Vegas-styled reputation system for enemy factions, a year into early access, for some reason.

Between feature-creep and content-removal, the new manager seems less competent than the prior one, which says something.
Definitely a mixed bag. Some stuff was good; as an example I actually am glad they are reducing the number of missions as there were way too many, and they were definitely repetitive and tedious, particularly the grid missions (sure wish they'd get the Captain into the grid missions to be a badass and earn some affection). Also glad they are taking at least part of our suggestions regarding the generation of more lead-in for the sex scenes with narrative tie-in.

On the downside, I think it's a bit silly that they keep harping on romance / dating, etc. They've set the tone for this game that it's casual sex, or is the ship in one big polyamorous relationship? (lol) This one definitely falls under the category of a potential conflict and it hurts the game overall due to conflicting items like this. It's either casual sex or romance and I think it's a tough sell to say you're trying to make a romance game when you've got the girls running around on the ship talking about fucking monsters, lol...I would have bought the game if it had been angled more at a romance game, but we'll see what they do - I don't see how they're going to pull this off convincingly without putting an option system into the game to de-canonize the monster stuff, but I'll wait and see. Another negative is removing replayable missions - this was a heavily requested feature. Not a good move to take that away. They're clearly trying to save money / dev time on this one.
 
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Well reading it now...yeah pretty much looks like they heard everything.



Now to guess what the next complaint will be...something like 'they're trying to do too much?'
That is part of what can happen in early access of a game. There is plenty of games out ther that never went into early access that had content re-written, ripped out, and mechanics redone several times over. If people now end up complain they try to hard to do better, well that is a new one..
 

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My feelings are mostly good on this blog. A few issues I have are:
  • Removing replayable story missions feels unnessacary. I doubt I'd use it myself, so I'm not that fussed, but if it's not negatively impacting another part of development, I see no good reason to remove it.
  • What's the deal with the interactive Talon scene? Was it good? What did involve? I haven't reached that far, so I don't know what it means that we're not getting more, but it sounds bad that we aren't?
  • I actually really like that they're willing to slow down the sex when the plot calls for it as this thing is tonally all over the place and makes it hard to care when the story wants me too. The problem I have is that, there's no actually stopping that until the characters get more practical resigns. Whoever is charge of art direction doesn't seem to realise that a character doesn't need to be practically naked to be sexy. The Captain and Blythe just kill any sense of tension whenever they're on screen. I'd at least like the option to have a normal, non-panty mask for The Captain. Then you have Blythe with her armour that shapes itself to let her missile tits hang out. She looks hilariously stupid, and the scene acts like she's supposed be intimidating. Maybe it's just me, but I can't give a shit about the plot that FOW seems to want me to care about while everyone looks like the cast of a porno accidently arrived on the set of Star Trek, and just filmed it anyway.
Anyway, those are my opinions that I'm sure you all totally care about.
 

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Definitely a mixed bag. Some stuff was good; as an example I actually am glad they are reducing the number of missions as there were way too many, and they were definitely repetitive and tedious, particularly the grid missions (sure wish they'd get the Captain into the grid missions to be a badass and earn some affection). Also glad they are taking at least part of our suggestions regarding the generation of more lead-in for the sex scenes with narrative tie-in.

On the downside, I think it's a bit silly that they keep harping on romance / dating, etc. They've set the tone for this game that it's casual sex, or is the ship in one big polyamorous relationship? (lol) This one definitely falls under the category of a potential conflict and it hurts the game overall due to conflicting items like this. It's either casual sex or romance...trying to do both is going to be tough to pull off convincingly. Another negative is removing replayable missions - this was a heavily requested feature. Not a good move to take that away. They're clearly trying to save money / dev time on this one.
They didn't say they were removing all the replayable, just story critical ones. Which so far I'd say are the tutorial stuff and the boss fights. And the main reason people wanted replayable missions is cuz they either wanted to play more, or wanted to get gold. But as they stated, they wanna retool the system to be more than just earning shiny ranks.

As for romance...you can't be silly and fall in love at the same time? Sounds pretty unimaginative.
 

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Definitely a mixed bag. Some stuff was good; as an example I actually am glad they are reducing the number of missions as there were way too many, and they were definitely repetitive and tedious, particularly the grid missions (sure wish they'd get the Captain into the grid missions to be a badass and earn some affection). Also glad they are taking at least part of our suggestions regarding the generation of more lead-in for the sex scenes with narrative tie-in.

On the downside, I think it's a bit silly that they keep harping on romance / dating, etc. They've set the tone for this game that it's casual sex, or is the ship in one big polyamorous relationship? (lol) This one definitely falls under the category of a potential conflict and it hurts the game overall due to conflicting items like this. It's either casual sex or romance...trying to do both is going to be tough to pull off convincingly. Another negative is removing replayable missions - this was a heavily requested feature. Not a good move to take that away. They're clearly trying to save money / dev time on this one.
When you say "our suggestions", I assume you mean the ones that gave feedback on steam... If loud enough masses there ended up ask for pink unicorns... there would be pink unicorns :ROFLMAO: What people complain about in this thread means nill end of the day, unless they put forward the feedback where it counts.
 
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