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Me when the Devs decide to nurf my ship for all the "boss" fights after i've spent all game upgrading it to be the fastest and best fighter out there: "how many ships can I crash into to blow up my ship three times?"
 

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yesh, she has her fun and den leaves
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Alright, I have to fix the premiums scenes and that would be it. it is 1.46GB for now, so the final result may be around it. About the new skins my answer is a NO. I got a lot of things to do on RL right now but I gave my word about Celestina. So, sorry about the new skins.
 
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Celestina has been added, I did not see a devotion quest video. Honestly, that DLC felt like a scam, I liked the game for what it offered, but the DLC, oh man...

Just to clarify, I know you were expecting the new outfits but it is a hell of a job and I have some RL issues going on, my apologies for that, for now, I will not do it.

Anyways, links are on the StudioFow thread OP under Subverse:

https://f95zone.to/threads/studio-fow-collection-2025-04-30-studio-f-o-w.15387/
 
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Mr. Weeaboo

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Celestina has been added, I did not see a devotion quest video. Honestly, that DLC felt like a scam, I liked the game for what it offered, but the DLC, oh man...

Just to clarify, I know you were expecting the new outfits but it is a hell of a job and I have some RL issues going on, my apologies for that, for now, I will not do it.

Anyways, links are on the StudioFow thread OP under Subverse:

https://f95zone.to/threads/studio-fow-collection-2025-04-30-studio-f-o-w.15387/
fow-Chan’s isn’t in it yet, so would think hers would come first.
 

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Celestina has been added, I did not see a devotion quest video. Honestly, that DLC felt like a scam, I liked the game for what it offered, but the DLC, oh man...

Just to clarify, I know you were expecting the new outfits but it is a hell of a job and I have some RL issues going on, my apologies for that, for now, I will not do it.

Anyways, links are on the StudioFow thread OP under Subverse:

https://f95zone.to/threads/studio-fow-collection-2025-04-30-studio-f-o-w.15387/
I think it's better than no Celestina sex at all, and I say that as someone who wasn't exactly screaming for her to be added. I don't really feel the need for every important female character to be fuckable in porn games.
 
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I really don't understand the NTR argument. This is a cuck game.
I mean, this game literally has an NTR switch.

The FMCs the developers call "waifus" are involved in promiscuous relationships with other people/creatures.
The FMCs have storylines involving rape. In one scene, the resistance even turns into pleasurable submission, which is practically a textbook example of a netorare plot. It's not netorase at all, since it's literally behind MC's back without knowing.

The forum argument is about not NTR because of fuck buddy relationships. So if that's the case, then the "romance" tag should be removed. Otherwise it's cuckolding.

But guess what? Devs say it is romance. Well, enjoy being a cuck then. Also, your "waifus" need to breed with aliens.

It's a Japanese word, and on the Japanese side, like DLsite and so on, this kinda game will have a 寝取られ warning. If it wants to go more specifically, they will use 寝取られ(寝取らせ) Netorare(Netorase). They don't just remove the netorare tag.
 

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I really don't understand the NTR argument. This is a cuck game.
I mean, this game literally has an NTR switch.

The FMCs the developers call "waifus" are involved in promiscuous relationships with other people/creatures.
The FMCs have storylines involving rape. In one scene, the resistance even turns into pleasurable submission, which is practically a textbook example of a netorare plot. It's not netorase at all, since it's literally behind MC's back without knowing.

The forum argument is about not NTR because of fuck buddy relationships. So if that's the case, then the "romance" tag should be removed. Otherwise it's cuckolding.

But guess what? Devs say it is romance. Well, enjoy being a cuck then. Also, your "waifus" need to breed with aliens.

It's a Japanese word, and on the Japanese side, like DLsite and so on, this kinda game will have a 寝取られ warning. If it wants to go more specifically, they will use 寝取られ(寝取らせ) Netorare(Netorase). They don't just remove the netorare tag.
Yeesh. Missing the forest for the trees there. It’s neither of those terms, the tag only got added here cuz people kept assuming and claiming it to be.

The waifu term isn’t literal. People took it to be. They don’t need to breed, this isn’t that kind of game. The only girl being ‘stolen’ was DEMI from tibold before the events of the game. And the only cuck if any is the main villain, who started a rebellion purely to try and marry his love interest.
 

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Yeesh. Missing the forest for the trees there. It’s neither of those terms, the tag only got added here cuz people kept assuming and claiming it to be.

The waifu term isn’t literal. People took it to be. They don’t need to breed, this isn’t that kind of game. The only girl being ‘stolen’ was DEMI from tibold before the events of the game. And the only cuck if any is the main villain, who started a rebellion purely to try and marry his love interest.
Yeah, I understand whatchu mean. But there is a problem, like you said, "The waifu term isn’t literal." Yeah, if it's a fuck-around game, no one will care. But the devs added romance, "being in love" shit, to make the term real. Sharing NTR. Welp, that blows.

At this point I just blame devs for not thinking straight before being so eager to make fetish fans happy.
 
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Yeah, I understand whatchu mean. But there is a problem, like you said, "The waifu term isn’t literal." Yeah, if it's a fuck-around game, no one will care. But the devs added romance, "being in love" shit, to make the term real. Welp, that blows.

At this point I just blame devs for not thinking straight before being so eager to make fetish fans happy.
It’s called polyamory, it’s not a wild concept. They all fuck around, and still love and care for another. Sova calls them one big fucking family and it’s quite literal in that sense :p
 

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It’s called polyamory, it’s not a wild concept. They all fuck around, and still love and care for another. Sova calls them one big fucking family and it’s quite literal in that sense :p
Hence, that's why I called it a cuck game. Because this relationship is essentially netorase, literally sharing.

I think this form really should change its tag systems. NTR is a Japanese word, right? and people arguing whether it's netorare or netorase in a LOT of games in the form. Depends on the interpretation/cultural difference.

You know what the funny thing is? The mod just replied to me and said this.
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Then why are you using a Japanese word? If it's a cultural difference, then why don't you just use tags like swapping, polyamory, cuckoldry, etc.?

We were fucking arguing for nothing then since some people are somehow redefining the word.
 
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Hence, that's why I called it a cuck game. Because this relationship is essentially netorase, literally sharing.

I think this form really should change its tag systems. NTR is a Japanese word, right? and people arguing whether it's netorare or netorase in a LOT of games in the form. Depends on the interpretation/cultural difference.

You know what the funny thing is? The mod just replied to me and said this.
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Then why are you using a Japanese word? If it's a cultural difference, then why don't you just use tags like swapping, polyamory, cuckoldry, etc.?

We were fucking arguing for nothing then since some people are somehow redefining the word.
So do you want to remove the romance tag or you want to add the netorare tag? :unsure:
 

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So do you want to remove the romance tag or you want to add the netorare tag? :unsure:
Well, if this form keeps using the term NTR.

Like the mod said, "If only ONE of them has a romance path, that's enough for the tag."
Then, by that logic, there are rape scenes. The resistance turns into pleasurable submission, fitting the definition of netorare.
 
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Well, if this form keeps using the term NTR.

Like the mod said, "If only ONE of them has a romance path, that's enough for the tag."
Then, by that logic, there are rape scenes. The resistance turns into pleasurable submission, fitting the definition of netorare.
I think this is where the discussion just keeps looping.

Rape or mind-control scenes don’t automatically make something NTR. Netorare is specifically about losing someone to another person with the whole jealousy/humiliation angle. That’s not really how those scenes are framed in Subverse.

Also, having a romance path doesn’t mean “locked monogamy by default”. The game is pretty upfront that the relationships are non-exclusive and more poly/open, not “she got stolen from the MC”.

If this forum wants to use “NTR” as a super broad label for any non-exclusive romance, that’s fine as a tagging choice but that doesn’t suddenly make it netorare by actual genre or JP definitions.

At that point, it’s less about Subverse itself and more about how loose the tag is being used here.
 
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