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NeroZee

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I agree that they did it because they want to release updates faster and easier, I still prefer quality>quantity tho.
What you specifically prefer has no bearing on anyone or anything but yourself, the only people that get to dictate what Zion needs to do is his patreon followers, not people that "concern troll" all day long how the game "back in my time the game used to be good!", bitching about how the game has gone to shit yet coming back each and every update.

Sad to say as a fan since 2019 but this game is becoming more and more of a inconsistent mess.
Actually the game has never been more coherent, the fact that it has art from others that covers almost entirely artwork that doesn't have anything to do with Succubi, Angels and love interests doesn't make the game an "inconsistent mess"

When the animations got removed people were mad, but at the end of the day ppl accepted that and expected well drawn images to continue.
The animation was removed specifically because Zion wanted to avoid the "inconsistent mess" you just cried about, imagine having animation for half the game only, it would be very confusing.

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Succubuses used to have a minimum of 2 well drawn images per scene & these images could range up to 6! (Not incl the full body png or final bosses) even npcs looked amazing!
They still have at least 2 well drawn images, the literally only succubi that had a lot more was the Spider succubi, mostly because it was the first introduction to the insect clan so Zion actually went overboard which he realized because it took Kain almost 2 months just to draw all the images for her alone.

Then we slowly went from that to I kid you not 1/2 image scenes that look alright (for the most part)
This is a flat out lie, unless you are using your subjective reasoning for saying you just dont like the new art, in which case you could easily argue the opposite. I could just as easily say i don't like Kains art so to me we went from 0(zero) good drawn images to 2 or more with the new art.

and npcs that look awful.
Once again if you want to jack off to random NPCs i guess you are shit out of luck, personally and according to most of his patreons they would rather good art be spent on the succubi, not random NPCs.


(Mostly copypasted from warlock saga) It's almost as if hes trying to skip having to make art for each one of the games seperately and hit two birds with one stone which makes no sense since these games are COMPLETELY different.
I really dont get this, i couldn't give less of a fuck who draws these guys.
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In fact i'd prefer if main artist didn't waist his time on them and focused just on the stuff i play the game for.


Yea which is why he has hired another artist to make even more art for Warlock Saga and future spin off games and i am gonna risk Zion getting angry at me for showing it, but fuck it, i just love rubbing it into peoples faces when they are blatantly wrong about shit they know nothing about.
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There's always gonna be white knights (totally not porn jesus) facepalming at the facts & defending this game because of dumb reasons like "if u cant make better game... then no critique it!!"...
And there will always be haters not knowing shit about what they are talking about and just being butthurt at changes that were outside of Zions control to begin with and always find new reasons to bitch and whine about.

It's basically a fuck u to whoever hated cyberpunk lol. But I think Zion needs some criticism so it might improve.
Oh dont worry about that, he has you blocked so he can't even see your posts, but even if he still did the criticism from his patreons is what really matters to him. Zion gets criticism and adjusts, which is why the game went from being updated every 8-10 months to 3-4 months, but that criticism mostly comes from people that pay him to make the game for them, not some rando pirates that are upset that the previous artist quit because he hurt his hand and Zion had to scramble quick to find an replacement for him which is entirely his fault because he didn't find a replacement that meets your specific standards.

One thing i will never understand, there are quite a few games on this website that i got really disappointed in for various reasons, which is why i said what i had to say about them and never looked back, but with this game i noticed that a lot of people get upset about it mostly for reasons that are out of Zions control like the artist quitting due to injury and animator quitting due to not wanting to be tied down to animating the game but doing what he wants to do in his free time, it's truly fascinating.
 
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Porn_Jesus

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What you specifically prefer has no bearing on anyone or anything but yourself, the only people that get to dictate what Zion needs to do is his patreon followers, not people that "concern troll" all day long how the game "back in my time the game used to be good!", bitching about how the game has gone to shit yet coming back each and every update.



Actually the game has never been more coherent, the fact that it has art from others that covers almost entirely artwork that doesn't have anything to do with Succubi, Angels and love interests doesn't make the game an "inconsistent mess"



The animation was removed specifically because Zion wanted to avoid the "inconsistent mess" you just cried about, imagine having animation for half the game only, it would be very confusing.


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They still have at least 2 well drawn images, the literally only succubi that had a lot more was the Spider succubi, mostly because it was the first introduction to the insect clan so Zion actually went overboard which he realized because it took Kain almost 2 months just to draw all the images for her alone.



This is a flat out lie, unless you are using your subjective reasoning for saying you just dont like the new art, in which case you could easily argue the opposite. I could just as easily say i don't like Kains art so to me we went from 0(zero) good drawn images to 2 or more with the new art.



Once again if you want to jack off to random NPCs i guess you are shit out of luck, personally and according to most of his patreons they would rather good art be spent on the succubi, not random NPCs.




I really dont get this, i couldn't give less of a fuck who draws these guys.
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In fact i'd prefer if main artist didn't waist his time on them and focused just on the stuff i play the game for.


Yea which is why he has hired another artist to make even more art for Warlock Saga and future spin off games and i am gonna risk Zion getting angry at me for showing it, but fuck it, i just love rubbing it into peoples faces when they are blatantly wrong about shit they know nothing about.
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And there will always be haters not knowing shit about what they are talking about and just being butthurt at changes that were outside of Zions control to begin with and always find new reasons to bitch and whine about.


Oh dont worry about that, he has you blocked so he can't even see your posts, but even if he still did the criticism from his patreons is what really matters to him. Zion gets criticism and adjusts, which is why the game went from being updated every 8-10 months to 3-4 months, but that criticism mostly comes from people that pay him to make the game for them, not some rando pirates that are upset that the previous artist quit because he hurt his hand and Zion had to scramble quick to find an replacement for him which is entirely his fault because he didn't find a replacement that meets your specific standards.

One thing i will never understand, there are quite a few games on this website that i got really disappointed in for various reasons, which is why i said what i had to say about them and never looked back, but with this game i noticed that a lot of people get upset about it mostly for reasons that are out of Zions control like the artist quitting due to injury and animator quitting due to not wanting to be tied down to animating the game but doing what he wants to do in his free time, it's truly fascinating.
That was beautiful. I couldn't do that with words but most of it made sense to me and the roasting was satisfying. Had to block him too, so damn annoying while nothing good comes from that person.^^


I want to know if i miss something or there isnt any Sex Scene on Pylia yet
That's right, there is no sex scene for her now, only a sweet romance scene. Zion takes it slowly to build up the relationship between the player and the love romances. There will be sex later, just not yet.


also are the ch. 3 and ch. 4 succubi in gallery room or no
Gallery room will be updated with the next chapter so all you can see for now is chapter 1 and 2 succubus plus the witch if you killed her. Therefore a full save won't help you that much but if you check my previous posts you will find a save that let you start at the beginning of chapter 4.
 

Jxiller

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Zion of Olympus a have a two question :
1. are the elves also protected from the corruption of the incubi and cannot be drained by the succubi?

2. You said if a succubi dies, it goes back to hell to be reset. Does that mean that when the Leaf Clan is completely wiped out by Aeolos, the clan hierarchy will change, right?
 

Succubus Hunter

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>Imagine being watched by unknown numbers of strangers while you fuck a waifu... man that's the scariest threat i would ever receive
That could be hot depending on the context. For example, just imagine if curvy half-orc were topping and opened a portal to allow her horde to watch how thoroughly she dominates her "Partner".
 

Porn_Jesus

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It's remarkable how belligerent people in this thread turn when this game is criticized.
I hope you don't think every single drop of comment is useful critique. There's a solid bunch of good stuff that the devs can use to optimize their work, get some fresh ideas or fix stuff.

Then there's some neutral stuff that doesn't hurt but also doesn't offer much.

Last but not least we have the good old crying and shit bombing that only serves as middle finger or ignorance from people who love to talk for the sake of talking and not thinking beforehand.

So what exactly makes you think people always go to war when someone dares to offer critique here?
 

NeroZee

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It's remarkable how belligerent people in this thread turn when this game is criticized.
It's one thing to criticize the game, it's another to state factually wrong things and on top of that insinuate that the dev is being nefarious and lazy.
It's actually remarkable how the people that LOVE to dish out criticism, cant take one themselves. Many such cases.
 

Zion of Olympus

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Zion of Olympus a have a two question :
1. are the elves also protected from the corruption of the incubi and cannot be drained by the succubi?

2. You said if a succubi dies, it goes back to hell to be reset. Does that mean that when the Leaf Clan is completely wiped out by Aeolos, the clan hierarchy will change, right?
1-Yep, they are more magical than humans, but they can be corrupted and drained just like them.

2-You can't wipe out a clan since there are billions of them. What you can do is go after the leader of that particular invasion.
It's always the main goal to go after the duchess/leader of a clan, since once they are defeated, the clan starts a civil war to decide who's the next ruler. So they will stop the invasion until the matter is settled, giving time for humanity to reorganize and defeat the ones that are still in the world, since they have no clear hierarchy and will no longer obey the previous structure of power.
 

Cocomilk

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Hello guys ! I have "finish" the game im in the end of chapter 4 (great game) but, i have 2 questions if you can help me !
- I got the cat for the replay room, they say go to your "cabin" where is it ?
- How to have the "love story" with Medea ?
Thanks for your help !

Edit: Ok i found it, im retarded
 
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Mr.Gamer

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What you specifically prefer has no bearing on anyone or anything but yourself, the only people that get to dictate what Zion needs to do is his patreon followers, not people that "concern troll" all day long how the game "back in my time the game used to be good!", bitching about how the game has gone to shit yet coming back each and every update.



Actually the game has never been more coherent, the fact that it has art from others that covers almost entirely artwork that doesn't have anything to do with Succubi, Angels and love interests doesn't make the game an "inconsistent mess"



The animation was removed specifically because Zion wanted to avoid the "inconsistent mess" you just cried about, imagine having animation for half the game only, it would be very confusing.


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They still have at least 2 well drawn images, the literally only succubi that had a lot more was the Spider succubi, mostly because it was the first introduction to the insect clan so Zion actually went overboard which he realized because it took Kain almost 2 months just to draw all the images for her alone.



This is a flat out lie, unless you are using your subjective reasoning for saying you just dont like the new art, in which case you could easily argue the opposite. I could just as easily say i don't like Kains art so to me we went from 0(zero) good drawn images to 2 or more with the new art.



Once again if you want to jack off to random NPCs i guess you are shit out of luck, personally and according to most of his patreons they would rather good art be spent on the succubi, not random NPCs.




I really dont get this, i couldn't give less of a fuck who draws these guys.
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In fact i'd prefer if main artist didn't waist his time on them and focused just on the stuff i play the game for.


Yea which is why he has hired another artist to make even more art for Warlock Saga and future spin off games and i am gonna risk Zion getting angry at me for showing it, but fuck it, i just love rubbing it into peoples faces when they are blatantly wrong about shit they know nothing about.
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And there will always be haters not knowing shit about what they are talking about and just being butthurt at changes that were outside of Zions control to begin with and always find new reasons to bitch and whine about.


Oh dont worry about that, he has you blocked so he can't even see your posts, but even if he still did the criticism from his patreons is what really matters to him. Zion gets criticism and adjusts, which is why the game went from being updated every 8-10 months to 3-4 months, but that criticism mostly comes from people that pay him to make the game for them, not some rando pirates that are upset that the previous artist quit because he hurt his hand and Zion had to scramble quick to find an replacement for him which is entirely his fault because he didn't find a replacement that meets your specific standards.

One thing i will never understand, there are quite a few games on this website that i got really disappointed in for various reasons, which is why i said what i had to say about them and never looked back, but with this game i noticed that a lot of people get upset about it mostly for reasons that are out of Zions control like the artist quitting due to injury and animator quitting due to not wanting to be tied down to animating the game but doing what he wants to do in his free time, it's truly fascinating.
You know, the only thing that I have against Kain is that he wasn't as adventurous with the poses as Devil is. Sure, the trade off is that the boobs are done little bit differently and they're not as "innocent...But at least the demons are still on the thicc side and the sex is entertaining. Hopefully Zion and Devil don't get too burnt out on the sex scenes, because we still have 4 more games of being suffocated by some crazy bitch's growing breasts. Speaking of which, hopefully he'll introduce ass expansion as an rare trait for the Leaf Clan.
You can't wipe out a clan since there are billions of them.
With numbers like these, it's an statistical miracle that humanity is still around, lmao.
 

Zion of Olympus

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You know, the only thing that I have against Kain is that he wasn't as adventurous with the poses as Devil is. Sure, the trade off is that the boobs are done little bit differently and they're not as "innocent...But at least the demons are still on the thicc side and the sex is entertaining. Hopefully Zion and Devil don't get too burnt out on the sex scenes, because we still have 4 more games of being suffocated by some crazy bitch's growing breasts. Speaking of which, hopefully he'll introduce ass expansion as an rare trait for the Leaf Clan.

With numbers like these, it's an statistical miracle that humanity is still around, lmao.
They don't invade with billions, though. Billions as in: scattered on the Scorching Hell, upon hundreds of conquered world, etc.
 

Mr.Gamer

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They don't invade with billions, though. Billions as in: scattered on the Scorching Hell, upon hundreds of conquered world, etc.
Yeah, that's closer to an believable ratio.

Speaking of food, how long can a succubus go without eating before starvation kicks in, anyways? Sure, most of them certainly aren't the type to capture some random guy and throw him a cell for a weekend desert; especially since hardly anyone can stand up to them, anyways. But after that scene with the bound Leaf Clan succubus, I can't help but wonder how much of her act was sincere, since she looked like that she wasn't there more than a few hours.
 
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babykeem

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Most of what this guy replied with pretty much avoided/missunderstood everything i said. Anyways i laid everything out, so you can call me a liar all you want but theres no denying clear objective facts. (Sorry for my AWFUL paint.net skills :ROFLMAO:)
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* The game is not consistent: the general art style changed, theres warlock saga npcs & sex scenes, the scenes themselves dont have as much individual pngs as before. I don't get why you say I'm lying about this when it's clearly the truth :ROFLMAO:

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We constantly switch from amazing to awful. It's a inconsistent mess. You expect a game to get better as you progress, here the opposite happens. Maybe this is not important, but this + downgraded scenes + many other factors = pretty fucking important if u ask me.

* You literally said f95zone members opinions are irrelevant, even though zion talks here & reads reviews consistently. (Avoiding criticism, only positive reviews are liked by him. Check it yourself.) F95zone in general is a forum where it's only purpose is to debate and critique, it's also the biggest source of income for zion since most come from here and at the end of the day we're all human being with equal opinions.

Also if you're saying only patreons opinions relevant and we ignore all of what i said, then that contradicts

* The animations were removed because they took 8 months & were too difficult to implement to every scene. I'm not specifically complaining about that, the community accepted it but at the very least expected the way simpler non animated scenes to continue, instead they make it worse + less pngs + more factors which is a heavy downgrade.

* Zion blocked me, that's completely fine and I wish zion the best of luck! I hope the game gets better for everyones sake.
 

Mr.Gamer

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Most of what this guy replied with pretty much avoided/missunderstood everything i said. Anyways i laid everything out, so you can call me a liar all you want but theres no denying clear objective facts. (Sorry for my AWFUL paint.net skills :ROFLMAO:)
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* The game is not consistent: the general art style changed, theres warlock saga npcs & sex scenes, the scenes themselves dont have as much individual pngs as before. I don't get why you say I'm lying about this when it's clearly the truth :ROFLMAO:

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We constantly switch from amazing to awful. It's a inconsistent mess. You expect a game to get better as you progress, here the opposite happens. Maybe this is not important, but this + downgraded scenes + many other factors = pretty fucking important if u ask me.

* You literally said f95zone members opinions are irrelevant, even though zion talks here & reads reviews consistently. (Avoiding criticism, only positive reviews are liked by him. Check it yourself.) F95zone in general is a forum where it's only purpose is to debate and critique, it's also the biggest source of income for zion since most come from here and at the end of the day we're all human being with equal opinions.

Also if you're saying only patreons opinions relevant and we ignore all of what i said, then that contradicts

* The animations were removed because they took 8 months & were too difficult to implement to every scene. I'm not specifically complaining about that, the community accepted it but at the very least expected the way simpler non animated scenes to continue, instead they make it worse + less pngs + more factors which is a heavy downgrade.

* Zion blocked me, that's completely fine and I wish zion the best of luck! I hope the game gets better for everyones sake.
I will take bland NPCs with high quality artwork of the girls over anything else any day of the week.

Sure, something has to give when it comes to the quantity vs quality; but I will enjoy a single pic of the Duchess getting her holes stuffed over anything that's poorly drawn.
 
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Zion of Olympus

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Yeah, that's closer to an believable ratio.

Speaking of food, how long can a succubus go without eating before starvation kicks in, anyways? Sure, most of them certainly aren't the type to capture some random guy and throw him a cell for a weekend desert; especially since hardly anyone can stand up to them, anyways. But after that scene with the bound Leaf Clan succubus, I can't help but wonder how much of her act was sincere, since she looked like that she wasn't there more than a few hours.
This is a good question. Depends. Becoming powerful as a succubus is a double edge sword. The more powerful she becomes, the more she'll need to "drink" to keep up her power and the faster it will drain away from her.

Many succubi can go a few days without complete starvation and "death". A weaker/new succubi can go 1 week and a few more days without draining a man.
A strong succubi however, needs to feed daily. Take for example the queen. A few hours after a meal she already lost 1 to 5% of her mana. And if she's caught in a weakened state, her own servants will turn on her to take her place, so she must always be feeding, like you saw.

So yeah... 1 week and a few days for a new/weaker succubus, 1 week *at best* for a powerful succubi, if she manages to survive her own servants.
After a 3 days without feeding, their mana will probably be below 50% or close to it.
 

babykeem

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I will take bland NPCs with high quality artwork of the girls over anything else any day of the week.

Sure, something has to give when it comes to the quantity vs quality; but I will enjoy a single pic of the Duchess getting her holes stuffed over anything that's poorly drawn.
i get u but thats not all, the actual succubus sex scenes are also getting less images so the quality as a whole is dropping. that's why i made you guys that image to give you a example as to whats happening. So its bad npcs + less sex if anything. i think zion should eliminate one of the problems at least. we should at least get better & more sex scenes.
 
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