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Speaking about Succubus eating habit, Zion of Olympus, if I am not wrong, one of the clans, the Lunar Clan, goes against the parasitic lifestyle of Scorching Hell, right?

How did they manage to survive this long? Also, will they play a larger role in next installments since I can see them being a good source to know more about Succubus?
 

babykeem

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also i wanna emphasise, zion has way more support rn than he did when he worked on update 1. This game has way more potential, i dont see why we get less sex scene images and less quality in general. It should be going to the moon!

also zion pls dont be mad at me u know i love u <3
 
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Ir0n Ma1den

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How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.

And does the succubi engage in lesbian sex, or have some sort of sexual intercorse with each other. And supposdly the succubi and the humans have a common enemy can they work toghther and form an alliance with each other???
 

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How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.

And does the succubi engage in lesbian sex, or have some sort of sexual intercorse with each other. And supposdly the succubi and the humans have a common enemy can they work toghther and form an alliance with each other???
I think lesbian is quite a problem, doesn't make sense sex without any pleasure for both sides(I presume that succubus don't feel pleasure, just hungry) so there's no way that happens, that's what I think but hey looks like the incubus can make them fell something like pleasure so that's not impossible.
 

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How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.
From the current power scaling I'd say she and the generals can one shot the player. Our current gear and health won't be enough to survive that encounter.
 

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We constantly switch from amazing to awful. It's a inconsistent mess. You expect a game to get better as you progress, here the opposite happens. Maybe this is not important, but this + downgraded scenes + many other factors = pretty fucking important if u ask me.

All I can understand from reading your post is that you only take art into account when rating the quality of the game, which I guess is very subjective but you are obviously ignoring the other factors of the game that could be seen as just as/more important than just the art of a game.

The game has gotten significantly better since release if you take into account the gameplay, writing and pacing.
Only switches in quality in art we get are of the npcs, which I don't think many people even care about.

In my opinion I think the game is a lot more enjoyable to play today than it was on release, and I would rather they keep this up than that they just offer us good art but a shitty game.

(Btw "queen" succubus has more scenes)
 

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All I can understand from reading your post is that you only take art into account when rating the quality of the game, which I guess is very subjective but you are obviously ignoring the other factors of the game that could be seen as just as/more important than just the art of a game.

The game has gotten significantly better since release if you take into account the gameplay, writing and pacing.
Only switches in quality in art we get are of the npcs, which I don't think many people even care about.

In my opinion I think the game is a lot more enjoyable to play today than it was on release, and I would rather they keep this up than that they just offer us good art but a shitty game.

(Btw "queen" succubus has more scenes)
Well yes, it's more fun to play now since you have the release, all chapters + this. so its more fun than the release alone obviously. but im comparing this update to the previous ones. gameplay is still pretty much the same in combat, theres a few more things to do which is good. The npcs arent a huge part of the problem, the bigger issue is that the quality also drops in the sex scenes themselves (What we both want). The scenes have less images than before and are lazier, there's even this abomination.
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Instead of scenes having more images of different point of views for example, we just get 1 image and thats it. When before the bare minimum for a scene was 3 images in earlier updates! Half of the sex scenes in this update were 1 image which says a lot.

we should increase in quality, not downgrade you know
 

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Speaking about Succubus eating habit, Zion of Olympus, if I am not wrong, one of the clans, the Lunar Clan, goes against the parasitic lifestyle of Scorching Hell, right?

How did they manage to survive this long? Also, will they play a larger role in next installments since I can see them being a good source to know more about Succubus?
-There will be a Lunar Clan Succubus in the next game.

-They have mana drain, that stagnates their mana. It doesn't drop it but it also don't go up. When they feed on a man, that man usually offers himself to her. But they try their best to stay away from it. They will however, inevitably, succumb to it and suck a man dry to restore their mana, since mana drain can only "keep what they already have" and not replenish.

How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.

And does the succubi engage in lesbian sex, or have some sort of sexual intercorse with each other. And supposdly the succubi and the humans have a common enemy can they work toghther and form an alliance with each other???
There is nothing on this level of power that can be accomplished by one person alone in SC. Not even an Incubus or a Master of Destruction could do that. Even the void clan could "only" suck the life out of the planet.

I like to call this "Anime Level of Power", like Frieza putting his hand on the ground and destroying the world in dragon ball. There is nothing even close to it in SC.

The closest thing was an summoning during the Sumer Empire time to counter the void clan, and that demanded 2/3 of all slaves of the Empire to be sacrificed to power the spell with their blood and all of the most powerful mages making the spell work.

All power in SC is like western RPGs/series, like dragon age or the witcher.
When you see a powerful warrior, imagine a badass witcher. When you see a powerful mage, imagine a Tevinter mage from dragon age or a mage from the witcher series (games. I didn't watch the series yet).

So no, even the Queen is "just" a powerful mage.

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Succubi do have lovers. Black Rose and Daisy or Rafflesia and Black Horn. But they spend their time mostly draining men together or enjoy each others company.
 

Mr.Gamer

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This is a good question. Depends. Becoming powerful as a succubus is a double edge sword. The more powerful she becomes, the more she'll need to "drink" to keep up her power and the faster it will drain away from her.

Many succubi can go a few days without complete starvation and "death". A weaker/new succubi can go 1 week and a few more days without draining a man.
A strong succubi however, needs to feed daily. Take for example the queen. A few hours after a meal she already lost 1 to 5% of her mana. And if she's caught in a weakened state, her own servants will turn on her to take her place, so she must always be feeding, like you saw.

So yeah... 1 week and a few days for a new/weaker succubus, 1 week *at best* for a powerful succubi, if she manages to survive her own servants.
After a 3 days without feeding, their mana will probably be below 50% or close to it.
At least that explains why Dahlia has a bunch of skeletons around her grove, lmao.

But as long as you're willing to show the Queen enjoying an fivesome or another noble doing a double blowjob in their free time, I doubt if anyone else will point out how can they retain their power just by draining one guy at a time.
i get u but thats not all, the actual succubus sex scenes are also getting less images so the quality as a whole is dropping. that's why i made you guys that image to give you a example as to whats happening. So its bad npcs + less sex if anything. i think zion should eliminate one of the problems at least. we should at least get better & more sex scenes.
Well, you're either being immobilized or becoming an general's throne half the time, or you're too busy fucking her from behind while standing to lay her down to plow her because you're having the best sex of your life.

Besides, I doubt if anyone will last long enough to switch positions, anyways.
 

Ir0n Ma1den

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Can a succubi bond with a human male?? For example can the queen or desdemona find a man who is a little bit more then food to them?
 

Zion of Olympus

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Can a succubi bond with a human male?? For example can the queen or desdemona find a man who is a little bit more then food to them?
It's possible for a succubus to fall in love with a human, but that won't last long. It always end in tragedy.
 

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Well, you're either being immobilized or becoming an general's throne half the time, or you're too busy fucking her from behind while standing to lay her down to plow her because you're having the best sex of your life.

Besides, I doubt if anyone will last long enough to switch positions, anyways.
yeah man but even the one scene on the throne had 3 images, like her going up to him, one showing the ass from behind, her riding from the front. its not just 1 image but many different images that make the scene much better. you get me?

this new update has 1 image on half of the sex scenes, really lazy compared to before.

and yea switching positions would be instant death but it could work, like you're doing doggy until you run out of stamina then she takes over from the top.
 

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Well yes, it's more fun to play now since you have the release, all chapters + this. so its more fun than the release alone obviously. but im comparing this update to the previous ones. gameplay is still pretty much the same in combat, theres a few more things to do which is good. The npcs arent a huge part of the problem, the bigger issue is that the quality also drops in the sex scenes themselves (What we both want). The scenes have less images than before and are lazier, there's even this abomination.
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Instead of scenes having more images of different point of views for example, we just get 1 image and thats it. When before the bare minimum for a scene was 3 images in earlier updates! Half of the sex scenes in this update were 1 image which says a lot.

we should increase in quality, not downgrade you know
Yea I can agree that I would also like if we could get back more pngs per sex scene and higher quality art would also be appreciated. But calling the game an "Incossistent mess" just seems kinda harsh for what we got.

I liked the new update and am content with what we got but obviously there are things I would have liked to have seen more of, such ass more pngs and high quality art for every scene but I just don't know how much longer that would have taken. I am happy with the update, but there is also things I could criticize but I just think there are better ways to phrase it.
 

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yeah man but even the one scene on the throne had 3 images, like her going up to him, one showing the ass from behind, her riding from the front. its not just 1 image but many different images that make the scene much better. you get me?

this new update has 1 image on half of the sex scenes, really lazy compared to before.

and yea switching positions would be instant death but it could work, like you're doing doggy until you run out of stamina then she takes over from the top.
Well, the last thing that we need is Zion killing another artist's career; but there's only one or two "good" angles when it comes to viewing sex.

For instance, hardly anyone would want to see the MC's ass when he's spooning a sex demon.
 
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babykeem

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Yea I can agree that I would also like if we could get back more pngs per sex scene and higher quality art would also be appreciated. But calling the game an "Incossistent mess" just seems kinda harsh for what we got.

I liked the new update and am content with what we got but obviously there are things I would have liked to have seen more of, such ass more pngs and high quality art for every scene but I just don't know how much longer that would have taken. I am happy with the update, but there is also things I could criticize but I just think there are better ways to phrase it.
yea im not the best at arguing but i still tried to show everyone though the images and stuff. I called it inconsistent cause in update 1 everything fit in well, but now theres 3 different art styles (Warlock saga art, Good ol kains art, and the new art) and the scenes only have 1 image instead of the old minimum requirement of 3 images (and some are terrible). it just feels really messy. we already removed the animations and its so popular now so i expected the game to run smoothly and only get better, but it got worse for some reason...
 
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Well yes, it's more fun to play now since you have the release, all chapters + this. so its more fun than the release alone obviously. but im comparing this update to the previous ones. gameplay is still pretty much the same in combat, theres a few more things to do which is good. The npcs arent a huge part of the problem, the bigger issue is that the quality also drops in the sex scenes themselves (What we both want). The scenes have less images than before and are lazier, there's even this abomination.
View attachment 1544060
Instead of scenes having more images of different point of views for example, we just get 1 image and thats it. When before the bare minimum for a scene was 3 images in earlier updates! Half of the sex scenes in this update were 1 image which says a lot.

we should increase in quality, not downgrade you know
To end this drama, here is what I have to say:

-New artist means a new deal. I didn't expect Kain to leave so soon. I had to consider the new prices and everything. Considering that when he left I was already working with multiple and expensive artists. He was Brazilian like me, so it was cheaper for us since I didn't have to pay international taxes for transference of money that are heavy indeed.

-On the second game, every succubus will have 2 different sex scenes so I can explore them more.

-That scene you are constantly picking upon was a bonus image that I wanted to include but couldn't ask V since he had already finished all his work for that month and I asked the old WS artist to include this bonus, that wasn't even in the plans and he gracefully accepted with the little time he had before release.

-Your "criticism" is just a bunch of passive aggressive "jokes", that don't add to anything and are nothing more than an annoyance. For example, you pick two pictures and say something like "Netflix adaptation". What was the contribution in that?

-I like and enjoy everyone's comment and ideas that comes here politely. I took into consideration many opinions here and included them in the game. Many of those who I ignore want me to do things that betray my vision for the series or just want to be smartasses about the game. I won't stress myself with them.

-My time isn't free. I'm working on multiple projects (main game/warlock saga/comic series/eden crest). If you want your criticism to be heard, there are proper channels to do that, such as Patreon, where I'll listen to people who actually support the game. Otherwise I'll just answer questions from fans that might one day support the project so I can continue to create what they want.
 

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To end this drama, here is what I have to say:

-New artist means a new deal. I didn't expect Kain to leave so soon. I had to consider the new prices and everything. Considering that when he left I was already working with multiple and expensive artists. He was Brazilian like me, so it was cheaper for us since I didn't have to pay international taxes for transference of money that are heavy indeed.

-On the second game, every succubus will have 2 different sex scenes so I can explore them more.

-That scene you are constantly picking upon was a bonus image that I wanted to include but couldn't ask V since he had already finished all his work for that month and I asked the old WS artist to include this bonus, that wasn't even in the plans and he gracefully accepted with the little time he had before release.

-Your "criticism" is just a bunch of passive aggressive "jokes", that don't add to anything and are nothing more than an annoyance. For example, you pick two pictures and say something like "Netflix adaptation". What was the contribution in that?

-I like and enjoy everyone's comment and ideas that comes here politely. I took into consideration many opinions here and included them in the game. Many of those who I ignore want me to do things that betray my vision for the series or just want to be smartasses about the game. I won't stress myself with them.

-My time isn't free. I'm working on multiple projects (main game/warlock saga/comic series/eden crest). If you want your criticism to be heard, there are proper channels to do that, such as Patreon, where I'll listen to people who actually support the game. Otherwise I'll just answer questions from fans that might one day support the project so I can continue to create what they want.
One of the reasons I wanted to talk about this was because I remember when I questioned you about why you couldn't add back the animations since they were already done, and you said it's because the game would be inconsistent if the previous scenes had animations while the rest didn't. And here we are, inconsistency at it's finest. Your vision of the game is really confusing and I can't know the inner workings of your brain as to what works and what doesn't, blaming me for that is immature. However, since consistency was such a important factor. I pointed out the major inconsistencies within the game from a very objective standpoint as well as my opinion on it. And here you are saying everything I said are passive aggressive jokes, ignoring the facts:
Succubuses used to have a minimum of 2 well drawn images per scene & these images could range up to 6! (Not incl the full body png or final bosses) even npcs looked amazing! Then we slowly went from that to I kid you not 1/2 image scenes that look alright (for the most part) and npcs that look awful. (Mostly copypasted from warlock saga) It's almost as if hes trying to skip having to make art for each one of the games seperately and hit two birds with one stone which makes no sense since these games are COMPLETELY different.
Wheres the joke? And if i had a joke or two, then so what? Are you going to ignore everything because of that? You're just blinded and read whatever you think is right completely ignoring criticism. If I say the game is getting worse with facts backing it up then how is it not supportive? The reason I said all of this is because ultimately I wish this game could get better. Instead of trying to focus on multiple projects, try finishing the first one and be as "consistent" as possible while doing it instead of making many projects then using that as a excuse as to why this games quality is getting worse. Let me remind you that most of the people that support you is because of succubus convenant, not any other games.

I hope you can actually take criticism for what it is and not just listen to yes men. There's been writers, professional reviews etc all trying to give you ideas & criticism but you and your gang of white knights pretty much bullied them all out or simply dont listen to them. Please try to make it make sense instead of blinding yourself
 
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-On the second game, every succubus will have 2 different sex scenes so I can explore them more.
This is actually a step up from the competition, which generally uses only one route in a given scenario. Sure, there's some VNs that shows off some alternate routes; but these doesn't really have the same amount of pressure of your short-term decisions in SC. Plus, it actually gives us an excuse to surrender to them to see how vindictive that they are.

If I say the game is getting worse with facts backing it up then how is it not supportive?
What facts? Outside of the RPG stuff gradually getting harder and the art is a little bit different on a technical level. Sure, the NPCs don't look so great, but this is actually normal for video games. The new artist has a different style than Kain, but at least he's giving the girls the same build as Kain did (with larger breasts). The only missed opportunity here is the titfucking; but that doesn't really pan out well when he has an ravenous monster who wants it shoved inside one of her holes.

But you have to remember that it takes time (and money) just to draw a portrait of one of the demons and it takes longer to get the proportions right when they're having sex. (Source: I used to draw some sketches in a notebook out of boredom. Took me forever to get the curves right.)
 

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Zion i told you not the feed the troll i will reply to his trash post tomorrow since he got so many things wrong, the guy doesn't even know the differences between the duchess and the queen lol.

Just ignore him, also i told you to limit your time on f95, if not just not come here at all. You dont need to anymore anyway, focus on your patreons and what they want.
 
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