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Zion of Olympus

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You know, the only thing that I have against Kain is that he wasn't as adventurous with the poses as Devil is. Sure, the trade off is that the boobs are done little bit differently and they're not as "innocent...But at least the demons are still on the thicc side and the sex is entertaining. Hopefully Zion and Devil don't get too burnt out on the sex scenes, because we still have 4 more games of being suffocated by some crazy bitch's growing breasts. Speaking of which, hopefully he'll introduce ass expansion as an rare trait for the Leaf Clan.

With numbers like these, it's an statistical miracle that humanity is still around, lmao.
They don't invade with billions, though. Billions as in: scattered on the Scorching Hell, upon hundreds of conquered world, etc.
 

Mr.Gamer

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They don't invade with billions, though. Billions as in: scattered on the Scorching Hell, upon hundreds of conquered world, etc.
Yeah, that's closer to an believable ratio.

Speaking of food, how long can a succubus go without eating before starvation kicks in, anyways? Sure, most of them certainly aren't the type to capture some random guy and throw him a cell for a weekend desert; especially since hardly anyone can stand up to them, anyways. But after that scene with the bound Leaf Clan succubus, I can't help but wonder how much of her act was sincere, since she looked like that she wasn't there more than a few hours.
 
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Most of what this guy replied with pretty much avoided/missunderstood everything i said. Anyways i laid everything out, so you can call me a liar all you want but theres no denying clear objective facts. (Sorry for my AWFUL paint.net skills :ROFLMAO:)
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* The game is not consistent: the general art style changed, theres warlock saga npcs & sex scenes, the scenes themselves dont have as much individual pngs as before. I don't get why you say I'm lying about this when it's clearly the truth :ROFLMAO:

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We constantly switch from amazing to awful. It's a inconsistent mess. You expect a game to get better as you progress, here the opposite happens. Maybe this is not important, but this + downgraded scenes + many other factors = pretty fucking important if u ask me.

* You literally said f95zone members opinions are irrelevant, even though zion talks here & reads reviews consistently. (Avoiding criticism, only positive reviews are liked by him. Check it yourself.) F95zone in general is a forum where it's only purpose is to debate and critique, it's also the biggest source of income for zion since most come from here and at the end of the day we're all human being with equal opinions.

Also if you're saying only patreons opinions relevant and we ignore all of what i said, then that contradicts

* The animations were removed because they took 8 months & were too difficult to implement to every scene. I'm not specifically complaining about that, the community accepted it but at the very least expected the way simpler non animated scenes to continue, instead they make it worse + less pngs + more factors which is a heavy downgrade.

* Zion blocked me, that's completely fine and I wish zion the best of luck! I hope the game gets better for everyones sake.
 

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Most of what this guy replied with pretty much avoided/missunderstood everything i said. Anyways i laid everything out, so you can call me a liar all you want but theres no denying clear objective facts. (Sorry for my AWFUL paint.net skills :ROFLMAO:)
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* The game is not consistent: the general art style changed, theres warlock saga npcs & sex scenes, the scenes themselves dont have as much individual pngs as before. I don't get why you say I'm lying about this when it's clearly the truth :ROFLMAO:

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We constantly switch from amazing to awful. It's a inconsistent mess. You expect a game to get better as you progress, here the opposite happens. Maybe this is not important, but this + downgraded scenes + many other factors = pretty fucking important if u ask me.

* You literally said f95zone members opinions are irrelevant, even though zion talks here & reads reviews consistently. (Avoiding criticism, only positive reviews are liked by him. Check it yourself.) F95zone in general is a forum where it's only purpose is to debate and critique, it's also the biggest source of income for zion since most come from here and at the end of the day we're all human being with equal opinions.

Also if you're saying only patreons opinions relevant and we ignore all of what i said, then that contradicts

* The animations were removed because they took 8 months & were too difficult to implement to every scene. I'm not specifically complaining about that, the community accepted it but at the very least expected the way simpler non animated scenes to continue, instead they make it worse + less pngs + more factors which is a heavy downgrade.

* Zion blocked me, that's completely fine and I wish zion the best of luck! I hope the game gets better for everyones sake.
I will take bland NPCs with high quality artwork of the girls over anything else any day of the week.

Sure, something has to give when it comes to the quantity vs quality; but I will enjoy a single pic of the Duchess getting her holes stuffed over anything that's poorly drawn.
 
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Zion of Olympus

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Yeah, that's closer to an believable ratio.

Speaking of food, how long can a succubus go without eating before starvation kicks in, anyways? Sure, most of them certainly aren't the type to capture some random guy and throw him a cell for a weekend desert; especially since hardly anyone can stand up to them, anyways. But after that scene with the bound Leaf Clan succubus, I can't help but wonder how much of her act was sincere, since she looked like that she wasn't there more than a few hours.
This is a good question. Depends. Becoming powerful as a succubus is a double edge sword. The more powerful she becomes, the more she'll need to "drink" to keep up her power and the faster it will drain away from her.

Many succubi can go a few days without complete starvation and "death". A weaker/new succubi can go 1 week and a few more days without draining a man.
A strong succubi however, needs to feed daily. Take for example the queen. A few hours after a meal she already lost 1 to 5% of her mana. And if she's caught in a weakened state, her own servants will turn on her to take her place, so she must always be feeding, like you saw.

So yeah... 1 week and a few days for a new/weaker succubus, 1 week *at best* for a powerful succubi, if she manages to survive her own servants.
After a 3 days without feeding, their mana will probably be below 50% or close to it.
 

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I will take bland NPCs with high quality artwork of the girls over anything else any day of the week.

Sure, something has to give when it comes to the quantity vs quality; but I will enjoy a single pic of the Duchess getting her holes stuffed over anything that's poorly drawn.
i get u but thats not all, the actual succubus sex scenes are also getting less images so the quality as a whole is dropping. that's why i made you guys that image to give you a example as to whats happening. So its bad npcs + less sex if anything. i think zion should eliminate one of the problems at least. we should at least get better & more sex scenes.
 

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Speaking about Succubus eating habit, Zion of Olympus, if I am not wrong, one of the clans, the Lunar Clan, goes against the parasitic lifestyle of Scorching Hell, right?

How did they manage to survive this long? Also, will they play a larger role in next installments since I can see them being a good source to know more about Succubus?
 

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also i wanna emphasise, zion has way more support rn than he did when he worked on update 1. This game has way more potential, i dont see why we get less sex scene images and less quality in general. It should be going to the moon!

also zion pls dont be mad at me u know i love u <3
 
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Ir0n Ma1den

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How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.

And does the succubi engage in lesbian sex, or have some sort of sexual intercorse with each other. And supposdly the succubi and the humans have a common enemy can they work toghther and form an alliance with each other???
 

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How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.

And does the succubi engage in lesbian sex, or have some sort of sexual intercorse with each other. And supposdly the succubi and the humans have a common enemy can they work toghther and form an alliance with each other???
I think lesbian is quite a problem, doesn't make sense sex without any pleasure for both sides(I presume that succubus don't feel pleasure, just hungry) so there's no way that happens, that's what I think but hey looks like the incubus can make them fell something like pleasure so that's not impossible.
 

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How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.
From the current power scaling I'd say she and the generals can one shot the player. Our current gear and health won't be enough to survive that encounter.
 

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We constantly switch from amazing to awful. It's a inconsistent mess. You expect a game to get better as you progress, here the opposite happens. Maybe this is not important, but this + downgraded scenes + many other factors = pretty fucking important if u ask me.

All I can understand from reading your post is that you only take art into account when rating the quality of the game, which I guess is very subjective but you are obviously ignoring the other factors of the game that could be seen as just as/more important than just the art of a game.

The game has gotten significantly better since release if you take into account the gameplay, writing and pacing.
Only switches in quality in art we get are of the npcs, which I don't think many people even care about.

In my opinion I think the game is a lot more enjoyable to play today than it was on release, and I would rather they keep this up than that they just offer us good art but a shitty game.

(Btw "queen" succubus has more scenes)
 

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All I can understand from reading your post is that you only take art into account when rating the quality of the game, which I guess is very subjective but you are obviously ignoring the other factors of the game that could be seen as just as/more important than just the art of a game.

The game has gotten significantly better since release if you take into account the gameplay, writing and pacing.
Only switches in quality in art we get are of the npcs, which I don't think many people even care about.

In my opinion I think the game is a lot more enjoyable to play today than it was on release, and I would rather they keep this up than that they just offer us good art but a shitty game.

(Btw "queen" succubus has more scenes)
Well yes, it's more fun to play now since you have the release, all chapters + this. so its more fun than the release alone obviously. but im comparing this update to the previous ones. gameplay is still pretty much the same in combat, theres a few more things to do which is good. The npcs arent a huge part of the problem, the bigger issue is that the quality also drops in the sex scenes themselves (What we both want). The scenes have less images than before and are lazier, there's even this abomination.
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Instead of scenes having more images of different point of views for example, we just get 1 image and thats it. When before the bare minimum for a scene was 3 images in earlier updates! Half of the sex scenes in this update were 1 image which says a lot.

we should increase in quality, not downgrade you know
 

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Speaking about Succubus eating habit, Zion of Olympus, if I am not wrong, one of the clans, the Lunar Clan, goes against the parasitic lifestyle of Scorching Hell, right?

How did they manage to survive this long? Also, will they play a larger role in next installments since I can see them being a good source to know more about Succubus?
-There will be a Lunar Clan Succubus in the next game.

-They have mana drain, that stagnates their mana. It doesn't drop it but it also don't go up. When they feed on a man, that man usually offers himself to her. But they try their best to stay away from it. They will however, inevitably, succumb to it and suck a man dry to restore their mana, since mana drain can only "keep what they already have" and not replenish.

How strong are the higher succubi such as the queen and her general, For example if desdmona(The blonde viking succubus with the PC mouse bikini) got very angry with some people and planet, can she her self if she was serious able to destroy it. And what about the queen, if she ever gets angry can she destroy whole planet.

And does the succubi engage in lesbian sex, or have some sort of sexual intercorse with each other. And supposdly the succubi and the humans have a common enemy can they work toghther and form an alliance with each other???
There is nothing on this level of power that can be accomplished by one person alone in SC. Not even an Incubus or a Master of Destruction could do that. Even the void clan could "only" suck the life out of the planet.

I like to call this "Anime Level of Power", like Frieza putting his hand on the ground and destroying the world in dragon ball. There is nothing even close to it in SC.

The closest thing was an summoning during the Sumer Empire time to counter the void clan, and that demanded 2/3 of all slaves of the Empire to be sacrificed to power the spell with their blood and all of the most powerful mages making the spell work.

All power in SC is like western RPGs/series, like dragon age or the witcher.
When you see a powerful warrior, imagine a badass witcher. When you see a powerful mage, imagine a Tevinter mage from dragon age or a mage from the witcher series (games. I didn't watch the series yet).

So no, even the Queen is "just" a powerful mage.

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Succubi do have lovers. Black Rose and Daisy or Rafflesia and Black Horn. But they spend their time mostly draining men together or enjoy each others company.
 

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This is a good question. Depends. Becoming powerful as a succubus is a double edge sword. The more powerful she becomes, the more she'll need to "drink" to keep up her power and the faster it will drain away from her.

Many succubi can go a few days without complete starvation and "death". A weaker/new succubi can go 1 week and a few more days without draining a man.
A strong succubi however, needs to feed daily. Take for example the queen. A few hours after a meal she already lost 1 to 5% of her mana. And if she's caught in a weakened state, her own servants will turn on her to take her place, so she must always be feeding, like you saw.

So yeah... 1 week and a few days for a new/weaker succubus, 1 week *at best* for a powerful succubi, if she manages to survive her own servants.
After a 3 days without feeding, their mana will probably be below 50% or close to it.
At least that explains why Dahlia has a bunch of skeletons around her grove, lmao.

But as long as you're willing to show the Queen enjoying an fivesome or another noble doing a double blowjob in their free time, I doubt if anyone else will point out how can they retain their power just by draining one guy at a time.
i get u but thats not all, the actual succubus sex scenes are also getting less images so the quality as a whole is dropping. that's why i made you guys that image to give you a example as to whats happening. So its bad npcs + less sex if anything. i think zion should eliminate one of the problems at least. we should at least get better & more sex scenes.
Well, you're either being immobilized or becoming an general's throne half the time, or you're too busy fucking her from behind while standing to lay her down to plow her because you're having the best sex of your life.

Besides, I doubt if anyone will last long enough to switch positions, anyways.
 

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Can a succubi bond with a human male?? For example can the queen or desdemona find a man who is a little bit more then food to them?
 

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Can a succubi bond with a human male?? For example can the queen or desdemona find a man who is a little bit more then food to them?
It's possible for a succubus to fall in love with a human, but that won't last long. It always end in tragedy.
 

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Well, you're either being immobilized or becoming an general's throne half the time, or you're too busy fucking her from behind while standing to lay her down to plow her because you're having the best sex of your life.

Besides, I doubt if anyone will last long enough to switch positions, anyways.
yeah man but even the one scene on the throne had 3 images, like her going up to him, one showing the ass from behind, her riding from the front. its not just 1 image but many different images that make the scene much better. you get me?

this new update has 1 image on half of the sex scenes, really lazy compared to before.

and yea switching positions would be instant death but it could work, like you're doing doggy until you run out of stamina then she takes over from the top.
 

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Well yes, it's more fun to play now since you have the release, all chapters + this. so its more fun than the release alone obviously. but im comparing this update to the previous ones. gameplay is still pretty much the same in combat, theres a few more things to do which is good. The npcs arent a huge part of the problem, the bigger issue is that the quality also drops in the sex scenes themselves (What we both want). The scenes have less images than before and are lazier, there's even this abomination.
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Instead of scenes having more images of different point of views for example, we just get 1 image and thats it. When before the bare minimum for a scene was 3 images in earlier updates! Half of the sex scenes in this update were 1 image which says a lot.

we should increase in quality, not downgrade you know
Yea I can agree that I would also like if we could get back more pngs per sex scene and higher quality art would also be appreciated. But calling the game an "Incossistent mess" just seems kinda harsh for what we got.

I liked the new update and am content with what we got but obviously there are things I would have liked to have seen more of, such ass more pngs and high quality art for every scene but I just don't know how much longer that would have taken. I am happy with the update, but there is also things I could criticize but I just think there are better ways to phrase it.
 
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