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LingMLBBB

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Jul 3, 2023
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Lol yeah agreed. August at the earliest. I think Zion might have underestimated things like: 1) He added way more succubi in the final chapter than any other. 2) He actually needs to get the love interest quests somewhere interesting? (Actually not sure about this one, might just leave 'em mid-way for the sequel.) 3) Has to build out the tribe more. 4) Has to put something of a conclusion/cliff-hanger in. Just a guess, we'll see. It'll be good to finally see some progress on the story after all this timeeee.
Actuslly we get 7 succubus 1boss 4underlings 1or2 from other clan for each 6month update. For me it is not that much if we do the math here.
we should have like 14 or more succbuss for 1year and more months. Plus It is pretty less compare to EC.
Hope we dont need wait more than 6months again for SC.
 

Shadowoff

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Dec 1, 2019
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Hey dude you got links to these games or names in ENG so i can search them?
1[Omochi Daifuku] Inyuu Quest ~An RPG that is squeezed by both enemies and friends
2.-

3.- Trinity Dungeon ~Succubus, Girls and Erotic Dungeon~
4.- Dieselmine – Cornelica, Town of Succubi
5.- [RPG] Succubus Farm (Milking Farm)
6.- Your Sweet House ~Succubus Mama & Eldritch Mansion~
7.- Yuka: Scattered Shards of the Yokai
8.- Dieselmine - A Lose Hero in the Castle of the Succubi
9.-Alchemy Fantasy R ~She is a Baby Alchemy Pot~
10.- Bitch Bokujou – NTR Knight’s Story
11.- Castle of Temptation ( Incomplete)
12.- Cucked Witch Amelia v1.11
13.- Female Knight Rimish - The Fern Dedication Chronicles
14.- Hero Under Heel
15 .- Lust Grimm Again
16 .-Mage Kanade’s Futanari Dungeon Quest
17.- Maman's Dungeon
18 .-Mira_and_the_Mysteries_of_Alchemy
19.- Mirena's Manor
20.- Red Haired Demon
21.- Shrine Maiden of Scorching Flames
22.- Succubus Puttel
23.- Succubus Wonderland
24.- Succubus Covenant
25.- Succubus Temptation
26.- Tail Of Desire
27.- Tower Of Trample
28.- Warlock Saga
29.- We're Hop
30.- Witch Of Steel Annerose (Visual Novel)
31.- Carrol In Wonderland
32.- Sugar*plum - Summer Memory With Yasaka [Oneshota Reverse Rape RPG]
33.- The Hidden Village of Witches and Catgirls
 

bigbamf1010

New Member
Dec 5, 2021
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1[Omochi Daifuku] Inyuu Quest ~An RPG that is squeezed by both enemies and friends
2.-

3.- Trinity Dungeon ~Succubus, Girls and Erotic Dungeon~
4.- Dieselmine – Cornelica, Town of Succubi
5.- [RPG] Succubus Farm (Milking Farm)
6.- Your Sweet House ~Succubus Mama & Eldritch Mansion~
7.- Yuka: Scattered Shards of the Yokai
8.- Dieselmine - A Lose Hero in the Castle of the Succubi
9.-Alchemy Fantasy R ~She is a Baby Alchemy Pot~
10.- Bitch Bokujou – NTR Knight’s Story
11.- Castle of Temptation ( Incomplete)
12.- Cucked Witch Amelia v1.11
13.- Female Knight Rimish - The Fern Dedication Chronicles
14.- Hero Under Heel
15 .- Lust Grimm Again
16 .-Mage Kanade’s Futanari Dungeon Quest
17.- Maman's Dungeon
18 .-Mira_and_the_Mysteries_of_Alchemy
19.- Mirena's Manor
20.- Red Haired Demon
21.- Shrine Maiden of Scorching Flames
22.- Succubus Puttel
23.- Succubus Wonderland
24.- Succubus Covenant
25.- Succubus Temptation
26.- Tail Of Desire
27.- Tower Of Trample
28.- Warlock Saga
29.- We're Hop
30.- Witch Of Steel Annerose (Visual Novel)
31.- Carrol In Wonderland
32.- Sugar*plum - Summer Memory With Yasaka [Oneshota Reverse Rape RPG]
33.- The Hidden Village of Witches and Catgirls
Legendary. Thank you !
 

elperdido77

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Apr 22, 2022
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¡Gracias! Solo estaba explicando por qué tomé esas decisiones jajajajaja
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hola tengo una deuda, despues me meto en el campamento del capitulo 3 donde hay un sucubo que se enciende con una luz verde y me voy a dormir, ahi me dicen que busque la cabeza de los bárbaros pero donde esta ?
 
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Will zion release ch5 in july?
Yes for like (y)
No for haha :ROFLMAO:

There will be play testing before release and only 3 days left not gonna make it.
Unless zion secretly already doing play testing and release at the end of july .
I mean, he's always a little optimistic on dates, and he said he was aiming for end of July before he had to take a few weeks off. So no, it's clearly not coming out till at least august. Though I would not be surprised by it taking till September. Putting a game in a completely finished state is a lot of work, and it might take longer than expected to finish off all the little things that pop up.
 

FrostFire88

Newbie
May 19, 2018
57
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I like the game a lot, Zion and the artists do great work, and it's pretty obvious Chapter 5 is pretty close to completion. I'm fine with waiting a tad longer. Delays and shit happens.

That said I hope he one day backpeddles on the whole 100 Chapters thing, and restructures the series to allow for a more reasonable development and release timeframe. It's taken almost 5 years to release the first 5 chapters. I'm glad he has ambition and big ideas, but unless he plans to live to be 100+ years old, with nothing going wrong that disrupts development, it's time to snap out of fantasy land.
 

Porn_Jesus

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Jun 21, 2017
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That said I hope he one day backpeddles on the whole 100 Chapters thing, and restructures the series to allow for a more reasonable development and release timeframe. It's taken almost 5 years to release the first 5 chapters. I'm glad he has ambition and big ideas, but unless he plans to live to be 100+ years old, with nothing going wrong that disrupts development, it's time to snap out of fantasy land.
You probably missed the news. It's 60 chapters now. One era got cancelled and each era will have three games with 5 chapters each. 15 chapters per era, not 20 anymore.
 

FrostFire88

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May 19, 2018
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You probably missed the news. It's 60 chapters now. One era got cancelled and each era will have three games with 5 chapters each. 15 chapters per era, not 20 anymore.
Definitely missed that news. Even if he said 30 Chapters total, I would still think that's crazy ambitious given the current pace that's been set, which is 1 Chapter per year.
 

dregatar

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Jan 1, 2021
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It's so clear that Zion is pretty much burned out or just has the intention to milk the Patreon money as much as he can. Even with the initial promise of giving periodical updates about the development, after finishing the part of writing the H-Scenes and story in late April, there was complete silence. Then late June comes and gives an update with a pretext (can be true or false) that his mother was sick and didn't get to work on the game for 10 days. I'm really sorry for him if this happened, since I was in the same boat with a mother who had medical issues, but people deserved the truth in the fact that the development was halted for two months. . Then in July he starts revealing the layout for the maps, which were, to be honest, like a slap in the face for me. Four maps with bland and generic tiles, which even a newbie dev could finish up in a couple of hours tops. Atop of it all, the maps are symmetrical in sides, WITH 0 DIFFERENCES WHATSOEVER, thing which a developer can confirm is the biggest sign of rushing and not giving a fuck, since you create one half of the map and just duplicate it on the other side. Basically he just started working on the game again at the beginning of July and is probably in a rush mode to finish up this chapter. I guarantee it won't come out any time sooner than September and it will be a piece bland rushed garbage, with some unbalanced fights and 3 hours tops of gameplay, with 0 soul or creativity.

Just to make a comparison with a truly dedicated developer, Torotoro started making Paradox Part 3 1 year before this guy and he is currently test phasing a game with over 120 hours worth of content. I was really rooting for this project because I saw ambition, but that quickly faded away when he released the Ch3 demo which was truly laughable.

Oh and as a reference to his empty promises, check out his reply from way back:
And hopefully 2021 will be the year that we gain your trust back.
Even if you don't support us directly, keep tuned on us.
There will be a big announcement in a few weeks, and once Kain returns we are going to intensify our work on the main series.

6 months for a chapter is something that it will not happen again. It must not.
I'll announce once Kain returns, and I ask for you to judge us based on this year.

Thank you for the support you gave us. And I'm sorry we failed you last year.
 
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LingMLBBB

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Jul 3, 2023
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I have read lot of posts about how this
It's so clear that Zion is pretty much burned out or just has the intention to milk the Patreon money as much as he can. Even with the initial promise of giving periodical updates about the development, after finishing the part of writing the H-Scenes and story in late April, there was complete silence. Then late June comes and gives an update with a pretext (can be true or false) that his mother was sick and didn't get to work on the game for 10 days. I'm really sorry for him if this happened, since I was in the same boat with a mother who had medical issues, but people deserved the truth in the fact that the development was halted for two months. . Then in July he starts revealing the layout for the maps, which were, to be honest, like a slap in the face for me. Four maps with bland and generic tiles, which even a newbie dev could finish up in a couple of hours tops. Atop of it all, the maps are symmetrical in sides, WITH 0 DIFFERENCES WHATSOEVER, thing which a developer can confirm is the biggest sign of rushing and not giving a fuck, since you create one half of the map and just duplicate it on the other side. Basically he just started working on the game again at the beginning of July and is probably in a rush mode to finish up this chapter. I guarantee it won't come out any time sooner than September and it will be a piece bland rushed garbage, with some unbalanced fights and 3 hours tops of gameplay, with 0 soul or creativity.

Just to make a comparison with a truly dedicated developer, Torotoro started making Paradox Part 3 1 year before this guy and he is currently test phasing a game with over 120 hours worth of content. I was really rooting for this project because I saw ambition, but that quickly faded away when he released the Ch3 demo which was truly laughable.

Oh and as a reference to his empty promises, check out his reply from way back:
Yes I miss those ages . Most jap games come with over 70 hours and lot of arts need to wait 1year but worth.
I am glad those game creators didnt become petroners.:ROFLMAO:
Those people who know this game engine is easy to use. I am pleased with you guys.
 

Johnlie2803

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Oct 29, 2020
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Any more updates from the devs? I begin to build up hope since the news that they plan to release the next chapter. Is the next update really happen on August?
 
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Any more updates from the devs? I begin to build up hope since the news that they plan to release the next chapter. Is the next update really happen on August?
It's not confirmed, but Zion said in discord recently that he's planning on breaking the tribal expansion part into a separate update in order to try and get the content out sooner. Based on that, I think a month from now isn't unlikely for the next update. It was also said that the recollection room would come out either with the tribal expansion, or at a later date. I'm guessing one of the discord admins will help make the recollection room while he starts on WS again.
 
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FrostFire88

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May 19, 2018
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It's so clear that Zion is pretty much burned out or just has the intention to milk the Patreon money as much as he can. Even with the initial promise of giving periodical updates about the development, after finishing the part of writing the H-Scenes and story in late April, there was complete silence. Then late June comes and gives an update with a pretext (can be true or false) that his mother was sick and didn't get to work on the game for 10 days. I'm really sorry for him if this happened, since I was in the same boat with a mother who had medical issues, but people deserved the truth in the fact that the development was halted for two months. . Then in July he starts revealing the layout for the maps, which were, to be honest, like a slap in the face for me. Four maps with bland and generic tiles, which even a newbie dev could finish up in a couple of hours tops. Atop of it all, the maps are symmetrical in sides, WITH 0 DIFFERENCES WHATSOEVER, thing which a developer can confirm is the biggest sign of rushing and not giving a fuck, since you create one half of the map and just duplicate it on the other side. Basically he just started working on the game again at the beginning of July and is probably in a rush mode to finish up this chapter. I guarantee it won't come out any time sooner than September and it will be a piece bland rushed garbage, with some unbalanced fights and 3 hours tops of gameplay, with 0 soul or creativity.

Just to make a comparison with a truly dedicated developer, Torotoro started making Paradox Part 3 1 year before this guy and he is currently test phasing a game with over 120 hours worth of content. I was really rooting for this project because I saw ambition, but that quickly faded away when he released the Ch3 demo which was truly laughable.

Oh and as a reference to his empty promises, check out his reply from way back:
I think this paints a much bleaker picture than what's happening. I mean I don't quite get your point about the map design and fight balance for Chapter 5. Combat and and Map Design has never been SC's strong suits. These seem like odd reasons to think Chapter 5 is going to be bad.

As for burn out, I'm not convinced he's totally burned out and trying to milk people's money on Patreon. Reading his posts on Patreon, he's clearly still passionate about the world he's created and the genre. I think if anything he's disheartened his project hasn't been panning out the way he originally intended, and to be fair, that's definitely on him. You're supposed to start and aim small, and if things go well you can grow from there. He set himself up for failure by making big promises like 100 Chapters, 2 Chapters a year, animated H-Scenes, etc etc.

I don't think it's fair either to compare him to TrTr. They're a larger and more experienced team. I don't look at Paradox Part 3 as a shining example of good project management either. While Part 3 will probably turn out great, it's very clear development didn't go as smoothly and as quick as they originally intended. Shit happens. Zion found that out the hard way multiple times, and he definitely needs to rethink and restructure Succubus Covenant into a size that's more manageable for him.
 
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I think this paints a much bleaker picture than what's happening. I mean I don't quite get your point about the map design and fight balance for Chapter 5. Combat and and Map Design has never been SC's strong suits. These seem like odd reasons to think Chapter 5 is going to be bad.

As for burn out, I'm not convinced he's totally burned out and trying to milk people's money on Patreon. Reading his posts on Patreon, he's clearly still passionate about the world he's created and the genre. I think if anything he's disheartened his project hasn't been panning out the way he originally intended, and to be fair, that's definitely on him. You're supposed to start and aim small, and if things go well you can grow from there. He set himself up for failure by making big promises like 100 Chapters, 2 Chapters a year, animated H-Scenes, etc etc.

I don't think it's fair either to compare him to TrTr. They're a larger and more experienced team. I don't look at Paradox Part 3 as a shining example of good project management either. While Part 3 will probably turn out great, it's very clear development didn't go as smoothly and as quick as they originally intended. Shit happens. Zion found that out the hard way multiple times, and he definitely needs to rethink and restructure Succubus Covenant into a size that's more manageable for him.
Yeah agreed. Look at any city map SC has and it's kinda overly big, symmetrical, and uninteresting. I hope his map making skills improve over time but it's not a big deal. TrTr was from the start using multiple artists, and didn't have issues with having the lead artist on the team get injured twice and having to take breaks to focus on side projects. He put out a full game and a chapter for another game in that time.

I do think Zion has some issues with project management and workflow, but I think it's a bit silly to say he's milking shit on patreon. Honestly, he could (and should imo) do a lot more to incentivize people to subscribe on patreon. His polls about which succubus should be the guest succubus, letting the patrons vote to design features, and giving higher tier patrons more votes would absolutely amp up patronage, but he isn't doing that. Even just putting out more consistent monthly reports would give people more reason to subscribe, but I honestly think he's just putting his nose down and working on the game.
 

kwunt

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Feb 17, 2018
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If it's a $50K scam, people would have been wary and recognized, but it's a $5, so it's going to pass indifferently
 
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