RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[Alkasal]

I've said it before but a general problem with western devs is their random need to just do as much as possible with no clear objective. So many developers like Zion end up making random games and side projects making the mainline product look abandoned or on hold. They bite off more than they can chew.

I think realistically the fault is 50/50. Zion is at fault for poor management of development and a lack of focus as you say. You could also argue that Zion should of been more familiar with the interests of the people he works with. However things such as key artist injuries that stop them from working is simply out of Zion's hands and something I would never blame Zion for. I am also not a fan of the hostility some people have been giving Zion. Yeah I understand people are frustrated, more so if you actually gave money but its just unproductive.

My real thoughts are that Zion could make a easy comeback if he gets his head in the game and just works on Succubus Covenant. I really don't want to see any more mid tier side games like Eden Crest.

Well, it's really sad to know Succubus Covenant is dead (abandoned). But WHY SOME PEOPLE before write anything,,, why not they just try to read Zion_of_Olympus Twiter account? That's because it clearly says THEY -not just one developer- ...

Idk what would happened but that team (Zion of Olympus) is not a serious company or perhaps that problem is not so difficult if we get not every people dream as a child to develop porn games, and that " philosophy of lack " if is a team is close to the washout

 

[salty1]

does anyone have the discord link for the game ?

 

[BaamAlex]

does anyone have the discord link for the game ?

The game can be downloaded on page one

 

[yeahboi84]

does anyone have the discord link for the game ?

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[mysorcpwns]

I just met the head of the Hammerfall tribe (dad of the huntress). Where do I go next, after leaving the tribe area and separating from the huntress?

 

[Nullx54]

To me this is just another classic case of a developer biting off more than they can chew. Warlock Saga is kinda meh and I don't really understand its desperate need for existence since Succubus Covenant is not finished and Eden Crest was uhhh...something that happened I guess..

I always assumed that if we were going to get multiple games, it would be a generation/era type of thing with the Succubus Covenant intro showing advanced humanity that it can basically tap into the past lives of people. So I thought we were going to get like games during like medieval, steampunk and modern era etc and not multiple side games in the same bronze age one.

I just don't understand why developers are so obsessed with making so many different games in as little time possible, ending up with unfinished or unsatisfying products and overall turning a fanbase on its creator for not properly working on the main product, we see this happen again and again on this forum.

I told myself that "I will wait for chapter 5 to review the game."
Man what a wait it has been..
By no means do I think Zion is a bad guy, but christ this developer trend is getting real old real fast.

Not gonna lie but that is the case, the only reason why I still hold out for Zion is that I know that he IS working on SC. That said it's pretty much apparent that better time and product management is needed. Devs with longer release cycles should aim for 3-4 months, 5 months tops or risk abandoning the game. I don't see this game as deserving the abandoned tag (saw recently someone argue for an "in-limbo" tag for works that are in dev hell, etc). At the same time I don't dispute is at 3 months of ratio silence or a 1 year of no release while on the phone will warrant it. I agree that WS and EC should have been games that came after chapter 5 was done but while in the middle of making a game is risky during development.

 

[SuccubusLover69]

Not gonna lie but that is the case, the only reason why I still hold out for Zion is that I know that he IS working on SC. That said it's pretty much apparent that better time and product management is needed. Devs with longer release cycles should aim for 3-4 months, 5 months tops or risk abandoning the game. I don't see this game as deserving the abandoned tag (saw recently someone argue for an "in-limbo" tag for works that are in dev hell, etc). At the same time I don't dispute is at 3 months of ratio silence or a 1 year of no release while on the phone will warrant it. I agree that WS and EC should have been games that came after chapter 5 was done but while in the middle of making a game is risky during development.

Look dude, whatever his intentions are, there could have been a 4.1, 4.2 release fixing all the bugs from chapter 4 or add all succubus to the gallery. It's not like he would have redo this work in chapter 5. It just shows his true intentions was to milk his patreons as much as he could.

 

[Nullx54]

Look dude, whatever his intentions are, there could have been a 4.1, 4.2 release fixing all the bugs from chapter 4 or add all succubus to the gallery. It's not like he would have redo this work in chapter 5. It just shows his true intentions was to milk his patreons as much as he could.

Just because I am willing to give a bit of extra leeway does not mean it's limitless, You can only stretch the goodwill and patience of the fans so far. In fact Zion was working on reworking the lore as well among other stuff so for you to say he has been milking his Patreon is a bit off the mark. if you made your argument less out of being butthurt over the lack of updates and more to warn people about a grifting dev it have had far more merit.

 

[SuccubusLover69]

Just because I am willing to give a bit of extra leeway does not mean it's limitless, You can only stretch the goodwill and patience of the fans so far. In fact Zion was working on reworking the lore as well among other stuff so for you to say he has been milking his Patreon is a bit off the mark. if you made your argument less out of being butthurt over the lack of updates and more to warn people about a grifting dev it have had far more merit.

And lore rework changes my point how? I smell copium.

 

[Jojomuq]

My favorite succbus is desdemona i hope she kinda remind mind of Kenpachi, unlike him she's evil cuz she was born as a succbus but i think her personality is much more complex. She seem to only enjoy killing the strong while sparing the weak not by kindess, but to her desire to become the strongest. I'm in love with her. I hope she gets more content . (Sorry for my bad english)

 

[Maryus]

So.. in the end... it's abandoned?

 

[Jojomuq]

So.. in the end... it's abandoned?

no

 

[Jimmyodi841]

Eh?
Abandoned?
I need to see the Succubus drawn by Shiki in action!!

 

[DrownP]

Okey... Maybe it explain why take so long to develop Ch.5. The game hasn't been abandoned, just a "big project" that needs years to complete. People who complain "it take so long" are because they haven't made a game in RPG Maker MZ so they don't understand it may take 5-10 years to make a RPG game. Counting from the year SC released, 2021, 2 years are actually not enough to develop a full RPG game.
I know another author,

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, taking half and three years, from 2018 to 2021, to make one game

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, with 267 CGs inside all drawn by himself, a few characters have L2D, unique enemys on the road with lots of different conversations.
However, it still depends on whether the final product quality is similar in order to refer to it, since Zion canceled the animations, all the enemy on the roads are demon flowers, But made a big background story and settings, everyone talking about it happily in Discord, a really good enviroment there but in F95 are all complainations, not a creator can stand it. And, during the development,

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keep sending out the DEMO to the supporters. What everyone got in Discord "important news" are "day xxx will have something big" "This is a CG of XXX" "I finish the map XXX" "XXX artist join our XXX" "I finish writing XXX" "Kain have new XXX". "New project". I don't see a DEMO or video of CH.5 gameplay during these years(Maybe just I missed it, or higher patreon supporters can have something other people don't know).
Not abandoned, the game is still under development, but Just wish it's not going to be another "The Day Before". That Really scare people bro. Be patient.
I am more interesting in their annual project, it focus on one succubus grow from tiny girl to tall-busty mama.

 

[kotlsupp2000]

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Okey... Maybe it explain why take so long to develop Ch.5. The game hasn't been abandoned, just a "big project" that needs years to complete. People who complain "it take so long" are because they haven't made a game in RPG Maker MZ so they don't understand it may take 5-10 years to make a RPG game. Counting from the year SC released, 2021, 2 years are actually not enough to develop a full RPG game.
I know another author,

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, taking half and three years, from 2018 to 2021, to make one game

You must be registered to see the links

, with 267 CGs inside all drawn by himself, a few characters have L2D, unique enemys on the road with lots of different conversations.
However, it still depends on whether the final product quality is similar in order to refer to it, since Zion canceled the animations, all the enemy on the roads are demon flowers, But made a big background story and settings, everyone talking about it happily in Discord, a really good enviroment there but in F95 are all complainations, not a creator can stand it. And, during the development,

You must be registered to see the links

keep sending out the DEMO to the supporters. What everyone got in Discord "important news" are "day xxx will have something big" "This is a CG of XXX" "I finish the map XXX" "XXX artist join our XXX" "I finish writing XXX" "Kain have new XXX". "New project". I don't see a DEMO or video of CH.5 gameplay during these years(Maybe just I missed it, or higher patreon supporters can have something other people don't know).
Not abandoned, the game is still under development, but Just wish it's not going to be another "The Day Before". That Really scare people bro. Be patient.
I am more interesting in their annual project, it focus on one succubus grow from tiny girl to tall-busty mama.

Stop simping, boy it's just using rpg maker drag and drop assets everywhere hes not creating a game engine, 90% of the work is from commission of various artists at this point depends on how much Zion is paying them. About music he just grabs free non-copyright ambient music, he could have finished the succubus covenant ch.5 or whatever a long time long but he decides to milk the popularity and make side projects.

 

[F69Devil]

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Okey... Maybe it explain why take so long to develop Ch.5. The game hasn't been abandoned, just a "big project" that needs years to complete. People who complain "it take so long" are because they haven't made a game in RPG Maker MZ so they don't understand it may take 5-10 years to make a RPG game. Counting from the year SC released, 2021, 2 years are actually not enough to develop a full RPG game.
I know another author,

You must be registered to see the links

, taking half and three years, from 2018 to 2021, to make one game

You must be registered to see the links

, with 267 CGs inside all drawn by himself, a few characters have L2D, unique enemys on the road with lots of different conversations.
However, it still depends on whether the final product quality is similar in order to refer to it, since Zion canceled the animations, all the enemy on the roads are demon flowers, But made a big background story and settings, everyone talking about it happily in Discord, a really good enviroment there but in F95 are all complainations, not a creator can stand it. And, during the development,

You must be registered to see the links

keep sending out the DEMO to the supporters. What everyone got in Discord "important news" are "day xxx will have something big" "This is a CG of XXX" "I finish the map XXX" "XXX artist join our XXX" "I finish writing XXX" "Kain have new XXX". "New project". I don't see a DEMO or video of CH.5 gameplay during these years(Maybe just I missed it, or higher patreon supporters can have something other people don't know).
Not abandoned, the game is still under development, but Just wish it's not going to be another "The Day Before". That Really scare people bro. Be patient.
I am more interesting in their annual project, it focus on one succubus grow from tiny girl to tall-busty mama.

These defenders of game devs are an epidemic and there's no cure for it. Some people are just meant to lose all their money. They subcribe to monthly patreon feed and then the dev gets distracted with side projects and extend the game for the longest time possible. It is their monthly income this is their business model and it works because there are people like you that are overly optimistic with disposable income, probably living the good life in his 3rd world country with all that patreon money selling hopium while you copium. Keep huffing and puffing.

 

[DrownP]

Stop simping, boy it's just using rpg maker drag and drop assets everywhere hes not creating a game engine, 90% of the work is from commission of various artists at this point depends on how much Zion is paying them. About music he just grabs free non-copyright ambient music, he could have finished the succubus covenant ch.5 or whatever a long time long but he decides to milk the popularity and make side projects.

These defenders of game devs are an epidemic and there's no cure for it. Some people are just meant to lose all their money. They subcribe to monthly patreon feed and then the dev gets distracted with side projects and extend the game for the longest time possible. It is their monthly income this is their business model and it works because there are people like you that are overly optimistic with disposable income, probably living the good life in his 3rd world country with all that patreon money selling hopium while you copium. Keep huffing and puffing.

Wait, you guys think I am defending? Think bro, think. I am just tired after seeing what dev said. Don't rush like a Blind Cow.

 

[WinKid]

So.. in the end... it's abandoned?

Eh?
Abandoned?
I need to see the Succubus drawn by Shiki in action!!

No.

Considering the dev's track record, he's still working on it but likely got distracted by something.

Like, there's this game, the Warlock Saga, that one other game, some short comics, etc. The guy has a problem in keeping himself focused on one task at a time.

 

[Kyunbix]

2 years of development for a few hours of gameplay...
This guy just can't focus on one project, so he spent some time on making side games. Because of that everyone waiting for ch5 needs to wait even longer. Let's be real, ch5 should be out there already, but we are still waiting ;/

 

[Yusha has fallen]

No.

Considering the dev's track record, he's still working on it but likely got distracted by something.

Like, there's this game, the Warlock Saga, that one other game, some short comics, etc. The guy has a problem in keeping himself focused on one task at a time.

Zion is the best drama queen also the best director also the best scripter also the best scammer.
Rest like extra more than 6 months for burn out from relearning the lore, but still act like no enough. He gonna get burn out again for relearning the next game after ch5. Then repeat the same script. XD That is the spoiler and the future