RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[Xbob1]

It's not that he is working at a snails pace, ok he is not the fastest dev out there sure. His problem is that he is unfocused, i talk to him every other day he has showed me dozens and dozens of images of new girls and sex scenes, i was actually shocked how much Devil-V the artist for the game has improved i wish i could post some of the latest pictures here it's like night and day, so he is WAY ahead of Zion in terms of development. Zions biggest problem is that he is unfocused as i said and he got quite a bit unlucky with the artist as unbelievable as it sounds both artist hurt their hands so that delayed him and then one quit because he only wants to draw girls without doing any hardcore sex scenes with them so all of that resulted in him needing to find different artist to work on different games which in turn resulted in him becoming way too unfocused, he honestly wanted to quit at one point but luckily we convinced him not to.

Currently he isn't far from releasing it i should get the trial version in the next few days hopefully to test it out, after that he will release it but my biggest concern is to try and keep him focused on this game since i know he wants to finish up Warlock Saga and do something else as well... At the end of the day i have to respect his wishes while also trying to push him to focus on this game which i think has been working so far from what we talked about.

I've said it before but a general problem with western devs is their random need to just do as much as possible with no clear objective. So many developers like Zion end up making random games and side projects making the mainline product look abandoned or on hold. They bite off more than they can chew.

I think realistically the fault is 50/50. Zion is at fault for poor management of development and a lack of focus as you say. You could also argue that Zion should of been more familiar with the interests of the people he works with. However things such as key artist injuries that stop them from working is simply out of Zion's hands and something I would never blame Zion for. I am also not a fan of the hostility some people have been giving Zion. Yeah I understand people are frustrated, more so if you actually gave money but its just unproductive.

My real thoughts are that Zion could make a easy comeback if he gets his head in the game and just works on Succubus Covenant. I really don't want to see any more mid tier side games like Eden Crest.

 

[LazerShark]

I wonder if someone could take over SC from Zion. It's been years and we haven't even finished this era yet, when the devs promised us more than one era.

Or maybe someone could've just make another similar game like this where they could come up with the continuation of the lore. It's such a promising game to be abandoned

It's his project, dude. There are no 'devs' it's just Zion. The whole lore is his idea and the universe is his creation. How could someone take over or make a similar project when succubus covenant is essentially zion's vision? I hate the guy as much as the average degenerate on this thread, but come on, asking someone to take over is like asking for sc to be done for good.

 

[woklto]

People got fed up with zions empty promises and excuses, so they labeled this thread as abandoned. He is currently working on some other side game apparently instead of this one.
The rest of the comments are just one guy hard defending zion meanwhile everyone else dunking on him

Oh, thats not good. This seems to happen to many games that look promising.

 

[KFC Pork]

I've said it before but a general problem with western devs is their random need to just do as much as possible with no clear objective. So many developers like Zion end up making random games and side projects making the mainline product look abandoned or on hold. They bite off more than they can chew.

I think realistically the fault is 50/50. Zion is at fault for poor management of development and a lack of focus as you say. You could also argue that Zion should of been more familiar with the interests of the people he works with. However things such as key artist injuries that stop them from working is simply out of Zion's hands and something I would never blame Zion for. I am also not a fan of the hostility some people have been giving Zion. Yeah I understand people are frustrated, more so if you actually gave money but its just unproductive.

My real thoughts are that Zion could make a easy comeback if he gets his head in the game and just works on Succubus Covenant. I really don't want to see any more mid tier side games like Eden Crest.

Well said. Well said. Hope zion's cowgirls understand. Then stop mounting zion (U know what i mean) haha

In SC
artists can injure ...... can get injured easily(already happen two time) D
devs is a snail ... literally, he is also unfocused. He can get burnout easily for relearning the lore. I sure there is more about devs.
479pages on sc. I miss a lot.

 

[Cakei]

I just want to add my comment to the thread, regarding the artists of the injured hand, in the case of Kainkout, I read some posts on Twitter (X) about the event, including that he planned to retire, about the other artist I have nothing to say that I know , I guess we can't blame Zion for this.
As for games, SC was the reason I followed this game, but more than anything it was the art of Kainkout, I guess I'm more of an art>plot type, no matter how much they say the plot is good, yes the I don't like the art that accompanies it or the setting, I just passed on it, I liked EC, but it was more because of Kainkout's art, the plot seemed interesting, but it was left halfway.
Of course there are exceptions to the rule like black souls 1 and 2, the takamakuran games, etc., to a point I'm playing it like any other rpg to discover its story and actively trying to avoid fights or H scenes to advance the plot.
And with SC it is in art=plot, I try to play it like any rpg because the story looks interesting to say the least and seeing the new artist I will continue to expect more from SC, because the art is good, the story is interesting.
As for WS, it's just one chapter, I don't have much to say, the art is nice, but I didn't pay attention to the story, because I'm here for SC.
Now as for the development of the game, unless you take care of EVERYTHING, art, music, programming, history, etc., well, it does take time, but the art is commissioned, the music is taken from other sources, so all that remains is programming and history, programming like any language takes time and seeing that it is 4 years old I want to believe that you have already mastered the RPG Maker tool, since it does not have advanced plugins, basic combat, basic exploration, etc., so I think there is not many excuses to make, the other would be the story, whether you have already developed it to the end or are doing it along the way, it depends on the developer.
The problem here is the lack of communication from Zion or rather the lack of updating the state of the game, you cannot simply say that the game is delayed and not give an explanation as to why.
BUT, I'm not defending it, I want the game to finish at least and I hope that with this supposed pause the rhythm improves.
Sorry about the wall of text, but I had to get it out.

 

[BaamAlex]

Can someone with Patreon access update the kemono page? There is a new post from him.

 

[Yusha has fallen]

Can someone with Patreon access update the kemono page? There is a new post from him.

XD the abandoned tag work like magic. Still we only gonna get ch5 demo for more than a year.

 

[PaYrO212]

I suggest everyone to join the DC server because he post more there than here. The game is not abandon, and chapter 5 is nearby

 

[Lex3rd2]

I suggest everyone to join the DC server because he post more there than here. The game is not abandon, and chapter 5 is nearby

Yeah yeah, keep believing in what he posts. What he showing and saying is NOT a sign of progress. I'm on this Discord Server for quite long and for some reason I'm ain't byin' it.

 

[SuccubusLover69]

I suggest everyone to join the DC server because he post more there than here. The game is not abandon, and chapter 5 is nearby

copium.rar

 

[Deleted member 1911333]

I've said it before but a general problem with western devs is their random need to just do as much as possible with no clear objective. So many developers like Zion end up making random games and side projects making the mainline product look abandoned or on hold. They bite off more than they can chew.

I think realistically the fault is 50/50. Zion is at fault for poor management of development and a lack of focus as you say. You could also argue that Zion should of been more familiar with the interests of the people he works with. However things such as key artist injuries that stop them from working is simply out of Zion's hands and something I would never blame Zion for. I am also not a fan of the hostility some people have been giving Zion. Yeah I understand people are frustrated, more so if you actually gave money but its just unproductive.

My real thoughts are that Zion could make a easy comeback if he gets his head in the game and just works on Succubus Covenant. I really don't want to see any more mid tier side games like Eden Crest.

Well, it's really sad to know Succubus Covenant is dead (abandoned). But WHY SOME PEOPLE before write anything,,, why not they just try to read Zion_of_Olympus Twiter account? That's because it clearly says THEY -not just one developer- ...

Idk what would happened but that team (Zion of Olympus) is not a serious company or perhaps that problem is not so difficult if we get not every people dream as a child to develop porn games, and that " philosophy of lack " if is a team is close to the washout

 

[salty1]

does anyone have the discord link for the game ?

 

[BaamAlex]

does anyone have the discord link for the game ?

The game can be downloaded on page one

 

[yeahboi84]

does anyone have the discord link for the game ?

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[mysorcpwns]

I just met the head of the Hammerfall tribe (dad of the huntress). Where do I go next, after leaving the tribe area and separating from the huntress?

 

[Nullx54]

To me this is just another classic case of a developer biting off more than they can chew. Warlock Saga is kinda meh and I don't really understand its desperate need for existence since Succubus Covenant is not finished and Eden Crest was uhhh...something that happened I guess..

I always assumed that if we were going to get multiple games, it would be a generation/era type of thing with the Succubus Covenant intro showing advanced humanity that it can basically tap into the past lives of people. So I thought we were going to get like games during like medieval, steampunk and modern era etc and not multiple side games in the same bronze age one.

I just don't understand why developers are so obsessed with making so many different games in as little time possible, ending up with unfinished or unsatisfying products and overall turning a fanbase on its creator for not properly working on the main product, we see this happen again and again on this forum.

I told myself that "I will wait for chapter 5 to review the game."
Man what a wait it has been..
By no means do I think Zion is a bad guy, but christ this developer trend is getting real old real fast.

Not gonna lie but that is the case, the only reason why I still hold out for Zion is that I know that he IS working on SC. That said it's pretty much apparent that better time and product management is needed. Devs with longer release cycles should aim for 3-4 months, 5 months tops or risk abandoning the game. I don't see this game as deserving the abandoned tag (saw recently someone argue for an "in-limbo" tag for works that are in dev hell, etc). At the same time I don't dispute is at 3 months of ratio silence or a 1 year of no release while on the phone will warrant it. I agree that WS and EC should have been games that came after chapter 5 was done but while in the middle of making a game is risky during development.

 

[SuccubusLover69]

Not gonna lie but that is the case, the only reason why I still hold out for Zion is that I know that he IS working on SC. That said it's pretty much apparent that better time and product management is needed. Devs with longer release cycles should aim for 3-4 months, 5 months tops or risk abandoning the game. I don't see this game as deserving the abandoned tag (saw recently someone argue for an "in-limbo" tag for works that are in dev hell, etc). At the same time I don't dispute is at 3 months of ratio silence or a 1 year of no release while on the phone will warrant it. I agree that WS and EC should have been games that came after chapter 5 was done but while in the middle of making a game is risky during development.

Look dude, whatever his intentions are, there could have been a 4.1, 4.2 release fixing all the bugs from chapter 4 or add all succubus to the gallery. It's not like he would have redo this work in chapter 5. It just shows his true intentions was to milk his patreons as much as he could.

 

[Nullx54]

Look dude, whatever his intentions are, there could have been a 4.1, 4.2 release fixing all the bugs from chapter 4 or add all succubus to the gallery. It's not like he would have redo this work in chapter 5. It just shows his true intentions was to milk his patreons as much as he could.

Just because I am willing to give a bit of extra leeway does not mean it's limitless, You can only stretch the goodwill and patience of the fans so far. In fact Zion was working on reworking the lore as well among other stuff so for you to say he has been milking his Patreon is a bit off the mark. if you made your argument less out of being butthurt over the lack of updates and more to warn people about a grifting dev it have had far more merit.

 

[SuccubusLover69]

Just because I am willing to give a bit of extra leeway does not mean it's limitless, You can only stretch the goodwill and patience of the fans so far. In fact Zion was working on reworking the lore as well among other stuff so for you to say he has been milking his Patreon is a bit off the mark. if you made your argument less out of being butthurt over the lack of updates and more to warn people about a grifting dev it have had far more merit.

And lore rework changes my point how? I smell copium.

 

[Jojomuq]

My favorite succbus is desdemona i hope she kinda remind mind of Kenpachi, unlike him she's evil cuz she was born as a succbus but i think her personality is much more complex. She seem to only enjoy killing the strong while sparing the weak not by kindess, but to her desire to become the strongest. I'm in love with her. I hope she gets more content . (Sorry for my bad english)