VN Ren'Py Summer Heat [v0.6.1] [Naughty Fox Games]

[Joshy92]

even less relevant for anything than when those people go around claiming "chick xyz is the best, yay!".

How dare you good sir my waifu is clearly better than your waifu

 

[Andrew39]

Sadly the pacing in this game has been an issue from the start, 4-5 updates covering just 1 in game day is just weird.
Hopefully the devs sort something out, because otherwise the story events moving forward will rightfully feel out of place given how little actual in game time has passed.
It's already insane how mc has basically had sex with a woman he just met a few hrs ago and already has other girls who he met for the first time feel for him in just a single day.

It's called 500 people payin minimum of $5 a month...I'd hold off on day 2 for another 12 months..

 

[NeroZee]

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"It's your turn... or are you just going to sit there?"

People complain about the nipple but forget that the devs have been tactically hiding girls more intimate parts from us until it's revealed to us directly in the game. Hell we know Eve has big boobs but we haven't seen so much as a cleavage from her so far, as i said before, it's all left for us to unwrap it in the game like a Christmas present when the time comes.

 

[camube]

i said it before and i still maintain this is one of the best looking daz3d renpy game out there.

it takes way too long to develop though.

as much as i like looking at pictures, i want to experience the story too and i feel like it would be a year or more wait before this game gets it's story going further than it is currently.

 

[NeroZee]

i said it before and i still maintain this is one of the best looking daz3d renpy game out there.

it takes way too long to develop though.

as much as i like looking at pictures, i want to experience the story too and i feel like it would be a year or more wait before this game gets it's story going further than it is currently.

Yea i can not hide that i am concerned with ever increasing work loads. 3-5 months per update is good for me, but anything above half a year... and you are literally risking 1-2 updates per year and that's really not good when games like this usually get a dozen updates before they are finished, what are we suppose to play the game for half a decade before we finally get to the conclusion?

With that said the devs said they were aware of this problem and have stated that they will try to keep the updates shorter and find a sweet spot of them taking like 45min-1 hour to complete while not taking 6+ months to develop.

This update itself is technically 1.5 updates into 1. They kinda implemented half of the next update into this one, so it's gonna have a lot more content than we usually get, but yea still i personally prefer medium levels of content with medium levels of time to make.

 

[NeroZee]

Sadly the pacing in this game has been an issue from the start, 4-5 updates covering just 1 in game day is just weird.
Hopefully the devs sort something out, because otherwise the story events moving forward will rightfully feel out of place given how little actual in game time has passed.
It's already insane how mc has basically had sex with a woman he just met a few hrs ago and already has other girls who he met for the first time feel for him in just a single day.

I am gonna basically copy paste what i said before when i saw this same concern

I have no idea what people are even talking about. The pacing is bad because it's been 4 updates and we are progressing only one day, so? What difference does that make exactly? If anything taking this "real time" approach to it is much better than if we arrived at the house and lets say the game faded to black and like 2 days passed, actually i would like to very much know what happened in those 2 days.
First impressions are the most important part, what you do with the girls in the first few minutes let alone the first day is gonna determine in 90% of the situations what they will think of you, whether they wanna fuck you or be romantically involved at all, whether they even like you or find you funny or boring, etc...

Yea we fucked Cassandra really quick but that was very intentional, she is an unapologetic cougar, that wanted to jump the MC the moment she saw him, that's her character, whether you like it or not it's not entirely unrealistic, especially in this setting. Secondly it's obviously done with a purpose and not just in this game but you get characters like this in many other games. The devs want to develop most relationships slowly, where you have many interactions with a girl before you get to fuck her, unfortunately that also means we have to wait many updates before we even get a blowjob from any of them, so in comes the character thats very promiscuous that is the developers way of saying "Here we gave you a girl you can fuck real quick so you can check out how our sex scenes look and satisfy your urge until we finally get to fucking all the rest of the girls".

It's a very good thing, Cassanda is also not the only character like this, the cop lady also looks to be the same, the cashier girl is also another potential one as well as some girls from fake tinder, we can guess this based on how forward girls are in their flirting, which is why i also think Bree is probably gonna be the first girl we get sexual with form the main cast, she isn't promiscuous but she made it very clear that she is really into the MC, so if you started hitting on her she aint turning you down. I dont get the problem i knew the car lady would fuck us the moment we saw her a second time, the devs even threw us for a loop where they made it like she wont actually this time but then surprised us at the last moment, which i liked, it made the update feel truly great and also showed how competent the devs are at the sex scenes. The girls dont just give you sexy looks whenever you are flirting but they amp it up to 11 during sex scenes as well, it's all around great stuff.

 

[biggestbirb]

Can someone tell me where Sophies freeplay image is I cant seem to find it

 

[DuckDairyDip]

I have no issue with the pacing in terms of what it means story-wise since overall I think it gives a lot of time to let things breathe and get to know the characters. I think it might become an issue production wise. The longer things take the more things can come up and derail development. Failed HDD+backup, other priorities, technological advances + newer hardware which may prompt reworks, etc.

 

[NeroZee]

I have no issue with the pacing in terms of what it means story-wise since overall I think it gives a lot of time to let things breathe and get to know the characters. I think it might become an issue production wise. The longer things take the more things can come up and derail development. Failed HDD+backup, other priorities, technological advances + newer hardware which may prompt reworks, etc.

I think this would always be a concern in our minds no matter what. Seems that re-working stuff is getting more and more popular. Partly because some games take so long to develop the early entries become outdated and partly because some devs found a way to develop the same game twice where they dont have to worry about the story or plot or dialogue or coming up with anything new just re-rending the old scenes with added hardware for better quality.

With that said i don't know where we can even go more with this game, it's already one of the best looking games on this site in terms of renders, second only maybe to Oceanlabs games, but even then a very, very close second. So basically not enough to justify them going back to rework it just to make it like 1% better looking.

I think we wont have to worry about that any time soon, maybe in like 5 years if this game is still being made which i doubt, unless the updates become super slow this game will end in like 2-3 years max.

 

[mma456]

I am gonna basically copy paste what i said before when i saw this same concern

I have no idea what people are even talking about. The pacing is bad because it's been 4 updates and we are progressing only one day, so? What difference does that make exactly? If anything taking this "real time" approach to it is much better than if we arrived at the house and lets say the game faded to black and like 2 days passed, actually i would like to very much know what happened in those 2 days.
First impressions are the most important part, what you do with the girls in the first few minutes let alone the first day is gonna determine in 90% of the situations what they will think of you, whether they wanna fuck you or be romantically involved at all, whether they even like you or find you funny or boring, etc...

Yea we fucked Cassandra really quick but that was very intentional, she is an unapologetic cougar, that wanted to jump the MC the moment she saw him, that's her character, whether you like it or not it's not entirely unrealistic, especially in this setting. Secondly it's obviously done with a purpose and not just in this game but you get characters like this in many other games. The devs want to develop most relationships slowly, where you have many interactions with a girl before you get to fuck her, unfortunately that also means we have to wait many updates before we even get a blowjob from any of them, so in comes the character thats very promiscuous that is the developers way of saying "Here we gave you a girl you can fuck real quick so you can check out how our sex scenes look and satisfy your urge until we finally get to fucking all the rest of the girls".

It's a very good thing, Cassanda is also not the only character like this, the cop lady also looks to be the same, the cashier girl is also another potential one as well as some girls from fake tinder, we can guess this based on how forward girls are in their flirting, which is why i also think Bree is probably gonna be the first girl we get sexual with form the main cast, she isn't promiscuous but she made it very clear that she is really into the MC, so if you started hitting on her she aint turning you down. I dont get the problem i knew the car lady would fuck us the moment we saw her a second time, the devs even threw us for a loop where they made it like she wont actually this time but then surprised us at the last moment, which i liked, it made the update feel truly great and also showed how competent the devs are at the sex scenes. The girls dont just give you sexy looks whenever you are flirting but they amp it up to 11 during sex scenes as well, it's all around great stuff.

That's a very convoluted answer to the pacing issue. Devs are currently putting various daily events in the same day which makes you think that living all these moments "real time" makes it worth it. But are you really gonna enjoy the same type of events everyday? Not unless the devs are able to change the daily schedule of the characters and make it interesting every single time. Which isn't all that easy. Every single event has that initial spark that makes it special which you can't replicate every single time. That is why in all of fiction you mostly just witness the characters in actual events that are interesting and not every single moment of their day.
I can understand the whole Cassandra angle as needing to add that necessary type of spicy character that's not as reserved as other girl's since this is a porn game after all and it needs some kind of an equivalent exchange between story and porn.
Also no matter how you frame it, some of the character progression with main girls does not come across as it's only occurred within a few hours. The actual interactions and all are perfectly written and spot on but the actual time passed does not justify it at all for certain characters.

 

[mma456]

I think we wont have to worry about that any time soon, maybe in like 5 years if this game is still being made which i doubt, unless the updates become super slow this game will end in like 2-3 years max.

This again counters your own point. If we get like 2-3 updates per year for 3 yrs with only 1 in game day of progression as the pacing, do you seriously think the games gonna wrap itself up in just 3-4 in game days?

 

[NeroZee]

That's a very convoluted answer to the pacing issue. Devs are currently putting various daily events in the same day which makes you think that living all these moments "real time" makes it worth it. But are you really gonna enjoy the same type of events everyday? Not unless the devs are able to change the daily schedule of the characters and make it interesting every single time. Which isn't all that easy. Every single event has that initial spark that makes it special which you can't replicate every single time. That is why in all of fiction you mostly just witness the characters in actual events that are interesting and not every single moment of their day.
I can understand the whole Cassandra angle as needing to add that necessary type of spicy character that's not as reserved as other girl's since this is a porn game after all and it needs some kind of an equivalent exchange between story and porn.
Also no matter how you frame it, some of the character progression with main girls does not come across as it's only occurred within a few hours. The actual interactions and all are perfectly written and spot on but the actual time passed does not justify it at all for certain characters.

Really? I thought it was fairly straightforward. See what you are doing is a lot of speculation right now. You could be right, maybe the devs fumble the bag entirely and the daily events turn out to be boring but also maybe they don't. We already know from the previews that they are expanding things. The 7/11 we were at is getting bigger to add more locations we will visit, the abandoned school is also gonna be a place we will visit and we also saw a preview of what looks to be a night club/strip club we will visit with Miller next update. So yea i think the devs can come up with new and interesting ways to make it all exciting, they have managed so far anyway. And honestly plenty of other games have paved the way for it already. In the house alone we can have movie nights, we can have all kinds of parties with different themes, we can have fun games to play that are always a classic like spin the bottle, etc... and that's just the house. Besides the locations and events themselves are not as important to me as the interactions with the girls. I can sit with Bree in her bed taking her pictures all day long and that was way more exciting to me than anything else we could have done besides sex itself obviously.

I mean sure some girls are clearly more forward than they would realistically be in this amount of time frame in most cases at least, but as you said it's a porn game... We have to have SOME suspension of disbelief. Because lets be honest 99% of these vanilla games revolves around every single super-mega hot woman in the game having the hots for what are usually very average to OK looking dudes, with no or terrible income, no fame, no talent and sometimes due to poor writing, no charm either. Yet we all accept because the alternative would literally be not to play 99% of these games.

The idea that we go into this house where we are surrounded by nothing but 10/10 women who are all strangers to us and they all and i mean literally all eventually at least manage to fall for us is super unrealistic, but we have to have that for the game to work. So i don't mind that the girls are already showing interest in the MC.

And as i said i think with the writing so far, time skipping would do it more harm than good, every interaction with the girls matter. They aren't casual, they are very flirtatious in some cases and due to some girls being super horny, having like a time skip of 2 days or a week, wouldn't work because we would have to assume nothing happened in that time except for more flirting and talking, when some of the girls are already prime and ready for the taking. So i said sit back and enjoy the ride as much as you can, the girls here are written better than in pretty much every game i have seen on this website and there are some really bad games out there that have next to no flirting and girls that literally have sex with you as soon as they see you.

 

[NeroZee]

This again counters your own point. If we get like 2-3 updates per year for 3 yrs with only 1 in game day of progression as the pacing, do you seriously think the games gonna wrap itself up in just 3-4 in game days?

I mean nothing says the days will stretch this much in the future, as i said this is our first day getting to know each other so it's literally the most important day, we are probably gonna get updates that conclude one or at least half the day. I mean what do you expect? For the summer class to last like 6 months or something? Summer classes usually last between 1 to 4 weeks for the most part, so given how short that amount of time is, i would say every single day can count towards something. Especially early on, first impressions are the most important here, the devs are taking their time to show us the girls and the setting we will be at, once that is over i assume we are gonna pick up the pace more, unless the whole thing will last 1 week, which is also possible. Hopefully it's closer to the 4 weeks, but we will have to wait and see.

 

[mma456]

Really? I thought it was fairly straightforward. See what you are doing is a lot of speculation right now. You could be right, maybe the devs fumble the bag entirely and the daily events turn out to be boring but also maybe they don't. We already know from the previews that they are expanding things. The 7/11 we were at is getting bigger to add more locations we will visit, the abandoned school is also gonna be a place we will visit and we also saw a preview of what looks to be a night club/strip club we will visit with Miller next update. So yea i think the devs can come up with new and interesting ways to make it all exciting, they have managed so far anyway. And honestly plenty of other games have paved the way for it already. In the house alone we can have movie nights, we can have all kinds of parties with different themes, we can have fun games to play that are always a classic like spin the bottle, etc... and that's just the house. Besides the locations and events themselves are not as important to me as the interactions with the girls. I can sit with Bree in her bed taking her pictures all day long and that was way more exciting to me than anything else we could have done besides sex itself obviously.

I mean sure some girls are clearly more forward than they would realistically be in this amount of time frame in most cases at least, but as you said it's a porn game... We have to have SOME suspension of disbelief. Because lets be honest 99% of these vanilla games revolves around every single super-mega hot woman in the game having the hots for what are usually very average to OK looking dudes, with no or terrible income, no fame, no talent and sometimes due to poor writing, no charm either. Yet we all accept because the alternative would literally be not to play 99% of these games.

The idea that we go into this house where we are surrounded by nothing but 10/10 women who are all strangers to us and they all and i mean literally all eventually at least manage to fall for us is super unrealistic, but we have to have that for the game to work. So i don't mind that the girls are already showing interest in the MC.

And as i said i think with the writing so far, time skipping would do it more harm than good, every interaction with the girls matter. They aren't casual, they are very flirtatious in some cases and due to some girls being super horny, having like a time skip of 2 days or a week, wouldn't work because we would have to assume nothing happened in that time except for more flirting and talking, when some of the girls are already prime and ready for the taking. So i said sit back and enjoy the ride as much as you can, the girls here are written better than in pretty much every game i have seen on this website and there are some really bad games out there that have next to no flirting and girls that literally have sex with you as soon as they see you.

No doubt there about the girl's being one of the best written girl's when it comes to these games.
As I said there's basically no fault in the writing or the interactions at all.
Also you're right about there being new additions being made regarding locations along with the potential of indoor events like movie nights, etc that will indeed increase the variety in day to day interactions than just the normal summer camp stuff, my only concern would be that hopefully they are able to manage that between all the girls as I'm pretty sure you will eventually need to choose a path.
I can say that we agree on most of the stuff aside from the pacing, but let's agree to disagree on that and the initial cracks that I noticed when the devs said how they ended up adding future updates content in the upcoming release is not due to pacing but an overall bigger update.

 

[.hn]

Can't wait for the next update. You have something really beautiful here

 

[wizardcock]

While everyone is having very important discussions about development timelines, i just miss Sophie

 

[lipe2410]

Not unless the devs are able to change the daily schedule of the characters and make it interesting every single time

This again counters your own point. If we get like 2-3 updates per year for 3 yrs with only 1 in game day of progression as the pacing, do you seriously think the games gonna wrap itself up in just 3-4 in game days?

The game has "horror" as some of the planned tags. This alone already tells me this story won't cover a whole summer camp vacation with normal daily routines.

 

[DoceDoceComoMel]

The game has "horror" as some of the planned tags. This alone already tells me this story won't cover a whole summer camp vacation with normal daily routines.

Exactly. I don't know why all this fuss about the slowness of covering the days. Just stop and think, there is a "horror" tag in the planned tags, now what "type" of horror that would be I still have no idea. However, a group of young people plus the scenario already presented reminds me a lot of "Friday the 13th". Therefore, if this tag is really implemented, it is obvious that the duration, in days, will not be long.

 

[DoceDoceComoMel]

That says a lot...

 

[Phase_01]

I never noticed the planned horror tag.

You mean to tell me Mia could actually be a real yandere??