much agreed, 2~4 months maybe for a chapter of a game with such quality (renders, models, posing, facial expressions, writing, atmosphere) is pretty much fair imo, considering there's only two devs working on it
I mean to be fair, while this game does have good quality renders, there is not really much story to speak of so far and there are zero animations that I can recall. We haven't even reached the evening of day one in the story yet and the game released 7 months ago. That doesn't really bode well for the future imo. Most of the top tier games around here release 0.1 with more content than this game has so far.
I hope chapter 4 is a big enough update. Because honestly summer heat doesn’t play out like it’s 3 chapters long.
Like you said, you can't compare Badik with SH, Robison and NPX are new devs and this is their first game, before Badik DPC worked on AL so he was already an experienced Dev when he started working on Badik
To expand on this even further, DPC has nearly 13k Patreons which provides substantial funding towards full time development, extra equipment, and rapid replacement for broken rigs. Most VNs start as passion projects for first time devs until they can build up a sizable following to justify going into fulltime development, which ended up being the case for Chasing Sunsets which also started off rather slow (no animations, slightly confusing story, etc.).
As I mentioned above with Chasing Sunsets, most first time devs start off rather slow and with varying quality for each design aspect behind a VN. Another example of a VN which started off a bit rough was Once in a Lifetime where both the story and renders were average and the animations felt a bit stiff. Around v0.6 and v0.7 Caribdis vastly improved on all three aspects and has expanded his skills even further with Eternum.
Despite my desire to have updates to play! as! often! as! possible!, I sort of think you should do this Northpx. It's like when cafes and bars (for example) have a day of the week in the name, I always think to myself 'this place really should open only on wednesdays' (if wednesday is the day). And then the additional thought, 'if they want to open other days of the week, they should open additional venues with those days in the name.'
I'm also the kind of person that wishes it was summer in the winter buts wa
Reckon this is you ename144 ? allanl9020142 what is the game?
I am similar but in reverse - I wish it was winter in the summer.
Being A DIK. I'm sure if you know about ename then you probably already know lol. Also how you "mention" someone in a post? I never figured that out.
Just type an @ in front of the username, without a blank.
You mention people by typing @ and then the username. A list of usernames will appear but sometimes it takes a few letters before they pop up in my experience.Being A DIK. I'm sure if you know about ename then you probably already know lol. Also how you "mention" someone in a post? I never figured that out.
Also, I guess I got distracted and never finished that last bit. I meant to say "wishes it was summer in the winter but wants it to be winter when it's summer so it all works for me"
Thanks for the kind words. BaDIK was the first game I started tracking, back when DPC gave fairly regular numbers in his updates. I miss those days.
I agree. Although I'd obviously like longer updates I actually think the developers / development of Summer Heat has moved at a pretty good pace given the quality of the renders and the fact that it's their first game. And I wasn't trying to compare the two (not sure if you're reading my post as if I was or responding to general / previous comments about development time of Summer Heat vs others), just saying I find the development time of Being a DIK to be quite slow (even though obviously Dr Pinkcake gives you A LOT when the update does come) and that, combined with the volume of posts in that thread, make it too much effort to follow regularly (for me).Thanks for the kind words. BaDIK was the first game I started tracking, back when DPC gave fairly regular numbers in his updates. I miss those days.
Regarding the development for Summer Heat, I'm a fan but I haven't been following the development closely. So I don't have any charts of the dev cycle for you, nor could I estimate when it might be done.
As for comparisons to other games' dev cycles, I think that can generate more noise than signal. Development time ultimately boils down to how much content is in the update, how much time the devs can spend on it, and how powerful their rendering setup is. But there's a lot of potential variation in those categories. High profile games by experienced devs (like BaDIK) have far more resources to throw at the problem than a new game like SH, so right away you need to rate development on a curve. Even then, a given update can be more or less ambitious, and even the individual renders or (especially) animations can vary considerably in complexity. SH has had relatively short playtimes per update so far, but it's also had fairly high quality renders. The devs are relatively new at this, too, so they may still be ironing out the best way to handle their development cycle.
Basically, comparing development between games is very much apples to oranges, and even comparing updates within a game can be apples to apple juice. So far I think Summer Heat has been worth the time it's taken to create the first three chapters, so I'm willing to wait for Chapter 4 and judge it on its own merits. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to finish.
Haha yea, there's a lot of posts on there. I just knew that DPC would have updates every Friday from Patreon and would go on here because someone would post it. I mostly stumbled onto the people doing charts while browsing through the posts around that time then I just started following them.
It's funny because I actually learned about Summer Heat from someone on the BADIK thread lol. As for tracking development, the devs do give weekly updates but from what I've seen they don't really give out a lot of numbers to play around with. Usually just "Overall progress is at X%". There doesn't seem to be much to see so far but I just have a good feeling about this game. Like they just need to get the ball rolling and then they'll really be picking up some steam.Thanks for the kind words. BaDIK was the first game I started tracking, back when DPC gave fairly regular numbers in his updates. I miss those days.
Regarding the development for Summer Heat, I'm a fan but I haven't been following the development closely. So I don't have any charts of the dev cycle for you, nor could I estimate when it might be done.
As for comparisons to other games' dev cycles, I think that can generate more noise than signal. Development time ultimately boils down to how much content is in the update, how much time the devs can spend on it, and how powerful their rendering setup is. But there's a lot of potential variation in those categories. High profile games by experienced devs (like BaDIK) have far more resources to throw at the problem than a new game like SH, so right away you need to rate development on a curve. Even then, a given update can be more or less ambitious, and even the individual renders or (especially) animations can vary considerably in complexity. SH has had relatively short playtimes per update so far, but it's also had fairly high quality renders. The devs are relatively new at this, too, so they may still be ironing out the best way to handle their development cycle.
Basically, comparing development between games is very much apples to oranges, and even comparing updates within a game can be apples to apple juice. So far I think Summer Heat has been worth the time it's taken to create the first three chapters, so I'm willing to wait for Chapter 4 and judge it on its own merits. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to finish.
