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Meabe37

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I feel like we won't go back to the club in day 2. Unless we go there with Cait. I could see Millers still being missing later and her deciding to go there to check because she is worried and ask MC to come with her or something. Could be a solution to start connecting both part of the game and for MC to work on Cait hm.
 
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Skeltom

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I feel like we won't go back to the club in day 2. Unless we go there with Cait. I could see Millers still being missing later and her deciding to go there to check because she is worried and ask MC to come with her or something. Could be a solution to start connecting both part of the game and for MC work on Cait hm.
If it's anything like what has been happening since the start of the game it will either be Kate asking the MC to go check on Miller and him agreeing or Miller coming back and having the MC run off with him again. Both outcomes suck by the way, but it wouldn't be surprising in the least.
 

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I feel like we won't go back to the club in day 2. Unless we go there with Cait. I could see Millers still being missing later and her deciding to go there to check because she is worried and ask MC to come with her or something. Could be a solution to start connecting both part of the game and for MC work on Cait hm.
Since we aim to stay beyond what Kate said, it makes sense that we don't go out with Miller again today(or the next couple of days), plenty of fun to be had inside anyways, and the next time we go out there Kate might be by our side...
I suspect whatever is going on with Miller, that club and the police woman, will be why Kate ends up forgiving the MC and allowing him to stay...
Whatever this ends up being it might also coincide with Kate lowering her guard for the MCs advances.

I don't think I'd want to see MCs face and the devs don't seem to have settled on his looks either as evident by his morphing hair. Facial animations are really hard to do without them looking goofy. They don't have to try for my sake. That effort is better spent elsewhere.
There's one negative with no face MCs, when games go for strict "no face" we usually end up missing on the guy feasting on the girls titties...
 
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Meabe37

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If it's anything like what has been happening since the start of the game it will either be Kate asking the MC to go check on Miller and him agreeing or Miller coming back and having the MC run off with him again. Both outcomes suck by the way, but it wouldn't be surprising in the least.
I honestly don't see the MC agreeing to go with Miller again. Unless we need to see the cops lady to settle the money problem and it's definitively need to be addressed, that money is trouble.
 

Skeltom

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I honestly don't see the MC agreeing to go with Miller again. Unless we need to see the cops lady to settle the money problem and it's definitively need to be addressed, that money is trouble.
Normally I would agree, but this MC has been rolling over for these two from the beginning. Sure, he blames Miller for what happened but is it really his fault? He may have brought him there but he didn't get him drunk and he didn't make him accept a shady as fuck envelope. It doesn't help that there is almost a complete lack of player agency. The only real say the player has in anything is if they want to pursue a particular LI or not. Everything else is just kinetic.
 

Meabe37

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The only real say the player has in anything is if they want to pursue a particular LI or not. Everything else is just kinetic.
Like most if not all AVNs honestly. Nothing new here.

but this MC has been rolling over for these two from the beginning
Well they are his teachers/caretakers for the summer, they are also way older than him. MC is a normal (young) dude not a rebel delinquent so it seems fairly normal for him to listen to them.
 
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Skeltom

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Like most if not all AVNs honestly. Nothing new here.


Well they are his teachers/caretakers for the summer, they are also way older than him. MC is a normal (young) dude not a rebel delinquent so it seems fairly normal for him to listen to them.
His age and attitude have nothing to do with it. Ignoring the fact that he is an adult, not some snot nosed tween, the stuff they have him doing isn't his job. He went to camp to improve his craft and get credits, not help them run it. Every time he is pulled away is less time with the girls, not to mention 90% of it just stagnates whatever plot may be here because we still know almost nothing about the overarching theme after all this time. Largely in part do to said scenes.
 

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His age and attitude have nothing to do with it. Ignoring the fact that he is an adult, not some snot nosed tween, the stuff they have him doing isn't his job. He went to camp to improve his craft and get credits, not help them run it. Every time he is pulled away is less time with the girls, not to mention 90% of it just stagnates whatever plot may be here because we still know almost nothing about the overarching theme after all this time. Largely in part do to said scenes.
I sure hope future updates allow him to grow a spine and stand up to Miller, getting in trouble through no choice of mine is not a great feeling.

And Miller taking him into town also makes no sense so far... Why? I don't see what's his benefit in leaving a guy that is not suppoused to be there unsupervised in the club.
Miller trying to "help" with the girls at the camp was weird enough, taking this kid into town and into a gentlemans club...

Is he a member of the family? MCs uncle or something?
 
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Skeltom

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I sure hope future updates allow him to grow a spine and stand up to Miller, getting in trouble through no choice of mine is not a great feeling.

And Miller taking him into town also makes no sense so far... Why? I don't see what's his benefit leaving a guy that is not suppoused to be there unsupervised in the club.
Miller trying to "help" with the girls at the camp was weird enough, taking this kid into town and into a gentlemans club...

Is he a member of the family? MCs uncle or something?
I think Miller lost a son at some point and maybe the MC reminds him of them. He could be trying to bond with him like he couldn't do with his kid but if that's the case I think the devs have been going about it all wrong. Maybe in a car accident. Could be why he won't let anyone sit in the front seat. Just a theory though based on what I've seen.
 

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I think Miller lost a son at some point and maybe the MC reminds him of them. He could be trying to bond with him like he couldn't do with his kid but if that's the case I think the devs have been going about it all wrong. Maybe in a car accident. Could be why he won't let anyone sit in the front seat. Just a theory though based on what I've seen.
Could be, it makes some sense...
Mine came because the MCs deadbeat dad keeps being brought up so i'm starting to suspect something will come out of it.

Could be just an old friend(or enemy) of the dad instead of an uncle.
 
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Meabe37

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Could be why he won't let anyone sit in the front seat
My theory on that is that the front sit was for Caitlynn other sister (don't remember her name/ edit: Claire) Something seems to have happen to her (dead or missing?) and i think she was Miller wife, probably the reason why he quit being a cop too.

Edit: the biggest hints to that are the heart carving on the monkey bars S+C definitively stand Claire + Shawn. And at some point Cass and Cait talk about him and said he wasn't a good husband or something like that.
 
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Like most if not all AVNs honestly. Nothing new here.


Well they are his teachers/caretakers for the summer, they are also way older than him. MC is a normal (young) dude not a rebel delinquent so it seems fairly normal for him to listen to them.
I think the issue is the inclusion of the ms Miller relationship/scenes puts her more on a peer level.
So I'm not saying you're wrong, but for him to be a position under their authority and for it to actually feel like that, there shouldn't be possible relationships between them.
 

Meabe37

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I think the issue is the inclusion of the ms Miller relationship/scenes puts her more on a peer level.
So I'm not saying you're wrong, but for him to be a position under their authority and for it to actually feel like that, there shouldn't be possible relationships between them.
That exactly why she freaking out. But at the same time, relationship with power unbalanced are not impossible and probably not uncommon. Especially in relationship between people who are more than 20 years apart. Keep in mind that i'm not saying it's how it is gonna play out (it dosn't seems like it to me)and i personally hope not, just that it could be. But it's seems normal before they get close to each other that she is in a position of authority at the beginning given their situation.
 
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Glad I wasn't the only one who snoozed at those segments I felt were pure fluff. Yeah there were some sex scenes but I don't care because it's not with the main cast.

I don't want more side quests, I want more of Mia eve Sophie bree at camp.
It's nice to know that someone thinks the same as you, the first scene with Maria at night seemed better to me than everything MC did in the club because she is one of the protagonists. I don't like side quests, at least not until the main story develops.

Pics or it didn't happen..! (jk ;)) But obviously also: Becca, pretty crucial if you ask me :drool: ;)
I better broadcast the moment on some streaming platform like that crazy guy who recently didn't sleep for 11 days to break a stupid record. jk


the issue is simply the setup of the game. we're at an art camp for a limited time (only two weeks or so) with these girls. this alone means that you have to make almost every day count, filling it with different scenarios and interactions, since you don't have that much to work with. you obviously can't just skip ahead a bit where it can be assumed you've gotten closer to the girls, you have to show every moment. so right away, you're presented with the problem of having to strike a balance between not making these girls jump on your dick from day 1, but also developing the relationships fast enough to where you end up having sex with them within two weeks. this is further compounded by the fact that the actual update cycle is in total conflict with this whole balancing act. it took five updates for one day to pass. this is a porn game first and foremost, and so obviously priority #1 is to have sex scenes in the game, but how do you do that when a full day hasn't even passed yet? you have only two options: make a bunch of random side girls for the mc to fuck and take the time to properly develop relationships with the main girls (as much as you can while keeping in mind the issues pointed out, anyway), or you accelerate the relationships with the girls and have them jerking you off and whatnot after two days. both of these options feel pretty bad for both the devs and the players. so they're kind of stuck in a catch 22, and simply have to try their best to make it feel like things aren't progressing too quickly with the girls even if they sort of already have. i didn't really feel any "cold shoulders" in this update, not even from eve who was probably just acting like that because she wasn't truly alone with you, but i did notice a vibe shift. so oh well. that being said, i don't feel sympathy for the devs, because, well, ten months for this update lol.
I agree with you on several things Sukuna.
The rules prohibit naming other VNs, but the Devs could have put a warning at the beginning of the game (preferably with an angry Kate in a swimsuit) "this game moves slowly because it prioritizes the development of relationships and sees it as illogical for MC to have sexual interactions with the protagonists so quickly", with that said, you dedicate 100% of the development to the 6 protagonists (I don't forget Mike) and you use the dating app that many people like a lot to show tits and pussies since version 0.1, by dedicating all the time to the protagonists making time advance faster, after 2 years of the game we would surely be days ahead and perhaps on a date with Sophie, (we should only change the reason why Kate wants to throw you out, let's assume that she suspects that MC is a Wendigo and that's why she wants to get rid of him in 3 days), also as the first week passes, the MC receives messages on the dating app to meet side girls in person, with the stories of the protagonists already better developed, you take the MC out of the camp and take him to a bar to meet Becca, and that's it, everyone is happy.
 
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El Mapa

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My review so far (0.6)

Character Development: The main character really stands out with his natural dialogue and solid personality. He handles situations well and avoids coming off as unrealistic or sleazy, which is a big plus VN games

Notable Relationships: The relationships between MC + Mia and MC + Mike are some of the best parts. Their backstory unfolds nicely over time, and Mike’s decision to dodge conversations about his sister’s situation adds a cool layer of awkwardness. It’s clear he’d rather steer clear of the topic, though he’s more open about similar stuff with other women.

Plot and Pacing: The story is fun, but the pacing can be a bit off. Things often happen in just a few hours, even though players experience a longer span of time. Slowing things down a bit (or making time go faster in-game) could make the story feel more immersive.

Character Designs: The character designs are fantastic, with each one looking unique and interesting. However, the relationship between Bree and Sophie starts strong but gets a bit annoying later on, especially with Sophie becoming overly controlling.

Strip club Scene Critique: The second club scene feels a bit forced, with the protagonist suddenly getting a lot of attention out of nowhere. It’s a hot scene, but it could’ve used a bit more effort to make it feel more believable.


Overall a 9.6/10 game for me, able to scratch that itch of lack of good games lately and going straight up to my top list
 

Skeltom

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Finally I found time to play the update and it's a big disappointment

Without animations it's like 2-3 months of work for team of 2 people and not full time

I'm curious about next update, hope it will be better
Yeah, the animations did more harm that anything. Assuming it's one render per frame at 60 fps that's a lot of extra renders. If even a third of them were used for the plot and character progression we may have actually been getting somewhere.

900 Bree (Lying in bed, Kissing)

480 Sophie (Standing on the stairs)

3960 Mia (Kissing, *Another* lewd scene)

01:30, 5340 (Total)
 
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