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The day isn't too packed, too much isn't going on and you could easily argue there would be more time in the day assuming most tasks take 1-2hrs each. The problem is 3yrs, 5 updates, and what have we got? We don't need a unique render for every line of dialogue. An animation can be as few as 2 frames. We don't need arms waving all over to signify a discussion when you could literally just have a render with the characters mouth open and another with it shut. You could use the same two mouth open/closed renders for 80% of most conversations instead of spending additional days to weeks on the renders for one scene. We also don't need to spend 3-400 renders per scene looking every character up and down. The first time they're introduced, sure, give us a few additional renders. Scenes that are intimate, sure, go crazy.

I'd legitimately argue that the current sex scenes get a fraction of the renders as generic conversations do. I'd much rather see that reversed. Far too often during general conversations we'll get multiple renders per single line of dialogue. Even one render for every 2 lines of dialogue is excessive if every new render is going to be unique.

There's one stretch where we're given like 20 unique renders as we survey the scene, which then goes into an animation that's nearly 10sec long and does the exact same thing, all before a single line of dialogue is spoken. That's like a week of work based on what most devs say all for a single line of dialogue. It's cinematic as fuck, but THAT'S THE INTRODUCTION TO THE SCENE. It's not even the hottest part of that scene with Bree. I'd have less of an issue if that were done during the part after she wraps her legs around the MC and does a sit up. I'm an ass guy, and all that work was wasted on scene with her laying down ass up in baggy, crumpled up jogging pants. Where as the part of the scene that would have actually shown off her body got like 1/3 of the renders as well as no animation. That is INCREDIBLY poor planning. That suggests the intent was to go balls to the wall on that one scene and then they ejected once they realized how long it was taking. That's not the only example of that sort of behavior though.

If you had a team busting out 2-300 renders per day, be my fucking guest. When you're a two man operation, you gotta learn your lesson and start planning better.

And when we start looking at games like this, I'm definitely a bit concerned how the workload and overhead is being broken down. I've seen these partnerships break down and its easy to understand bc 99% of the expense ends up on the artist as well as north of 70% of the manhours spent on development. If its a two man team like this, you REALLY need both people working together on the renders. Especially if you're making enough money to justify the hardware costs, as they are.
The day 1 is too packed yes. MC got several handjobs/blowjobs with lots of different girls, one or two fucks (I don't even remember if he fucked Cassandra or if it was only a blowjob, but he fucked the whore at the club) and got pretty close to do lewd things with Bree and Sophie. Everything is optional, but nothing is exclusive and you can do all of that in a single playthrough. In a single day.

I agree some scenes could work with fewer renders, like conversations with Mike, but the attention to detail with micro management of the girls' poses and facial expressions makes it stand out.

The wait is hard though but we have to endure
 
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The day 1 is too packed yes. MC got several handjobs/blowjobs with lots of different girls, one or two fucks (I don't even remember if he fucked Cassandra or if it was only a blowjob, but he fucked the whore at the club) and got pretty close to do lewd things with Bree and Sophie. Everything is optional, but nothing is exclusive and you can do all of that in a single playthrough. In a single day.

I agree some scenes could work with fewer renders, like conversations with Mike, but the attention to detail with micro management of the girls' poses and facial expressions makes it stand out.

The wait is hard though but we have to endure
Apparently I completely missed almost all of Cassandra's content every time. I know you can fuck her in day 1, fuck the chick at the strip club, then both bj's are "technically" day 2. That's not a lot. My personal record in a day was 13 when I was a teenager. W/ my most recent ex, it was 7. And I don't think the amount of sexual content is the issue. Especially in a game that literally advertises catching them all or just focusing on your favorite.

The issue is that its been 3yrs and we have as much story progression as you'd expect in 1-2 updates for other VN's. Any 3-4 conversations in this game would be the equivalent in to an entire update in other VN's. It's too much, too condensed. It's literally right at the point where modeling and rigging these characters in UE5 and fully animating it might be faster. They've gone well overboard to the point that it's becoming detrimental. You could literally fully animate some of these scenes just with the existing renders, though lip-syncing would be fucked.
 
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Ok i lied... i'm back But i really don't feel like answering lmao.

I started doing so but i just felt like was just repeating what i said earlier today or 20 others times already somewhere is this 780 pages thread. So yeah i'm lazy so you can search for my answer in what i said today or 200 pages ago... maybe XD
 
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Apparently I completely missed almost all of Cassandra's content every time. I know you can fuck her in day 1, fuck the chick at the strip club, then both bj's are "technically" day 2. That's not a lot. My personal record in a day was 13 when I was a teenager. W/ my most recent ex, it was 7. And I don't think the amount of sexual content is the issue. Especially in a game that literally advertises catching them all or just focusing on your favorite.
Congratulations but it was with the same partner. Imagine with 13 different ones. And let's not talk about Lily Phillips :HideThePain:

There is also handjob from Mia before sleeping, handjob from Eve (or not). And he also has the time to flirt and is close to being lewd with Bree and Sophie.

I've no issues with the amount of lewd, but when you think about it it's too much in a single day, and they're all strangers except Mia.
 
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Congratulations but it was with the same partner. Imagine with 13 different ones. And let's not talk about Lily Phillips :HideThePain:

There is also handjob from Mia before sleeping, handjob from Eve

I've no issues with the amount of lewd, but when you think about it it's too much in a single day, and they're all strangers except Mia.
It's a porn game, and a rather tame one. In a lot of games, if you just stick to the side chicks, that number is not impressive. And that's excluding harem games, which I fucking hate, but would blow those numbers out of the water. It's going to be hard to convince me that there's too much sex going on in a porn game. I'm mostly looking at actual events that are transpiring. This is an art camp for college credits that also, oddly, has PE. So I'm looking at classes, setting up the MC's room, rigging the lights, PE, trip to the store, trip to the club, etc. Are those a reasonable number of events? Yes.
 
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What did you mean?
How many times in a day I had sex. The 13 times I was 19yo. We were snowed in up at my parents cabins and stayed in bed all day in large part bc it was too cold to get out of bed and get the fire going. We decided to find entertaining ways to stay warm while entertaining each other, since all we had was a radio in the bedroom. Pretty sure I was nutting dust at the end.
 
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It's a porn game, and a rather tame one. In a lot of games, if you just stick to the side chicks, that number is not impressive. And that's excluding harem games, which I fucking hate, but would blow those numbers out of the water. It's going to be hard to convince me that there's too much sex going on in a porn game. I'm mostly looking at actual events that are transpiring. This is an art camp for college credits that also, oddly, has PE. So I'm looking at classes, setting up the MC's room, rigging the lights, PE, trip to the store, trip to the club, etc. Are those a reasonable number of events? Yes.
I didn't say there is too much porn, I said there is too much in one day. But let's agree to disagree and stop here.
 

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How many times in a day I had sex. The 13 times I was 19yo. We were snowed in up at my parents cabins and stayed in bed all day in large part bc it was too cold to get out of bed and get the fire going. We decided to find entertaining ways to stay warm while entertaining each other, since all we had was a radio in the bedroom. Pretty sure I was nutting dust at the end.
It sounds a bit like you had sex with your own parents 13 times a day :Kappa: :LUL:
 

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It sounds a bit like you had sex with your own parents 13 times a day :Kappa: :LUL:
Hey man we are not judging, everyone like what they like, you know, it's cool ;)


Wha- What do you mean i already made that joke ? Noooo... :oops:
 

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I didn't say there is too much porn, I said there is too much in one day. But let's agree to disagree and stop here.
Elmwood University has more encounters in similar time span and has been out for half 11 months. You have 2 bj's, sex in the hot tub, sex with that girl again the next day, handy from twins, sex with another chick after breaking into the prof's office, you finger both twins and then wraps with a threesome. That games renders aren't on the same level, but aren't dramatically worse either. And that game doesn't even have a Mia-type figure who has a history with the MC. I'm not saying that to try to praise it, just to draw parallels between the sexual content, the quality of content, amount of non-lewd content AND the timeline the games have existed.

You're wrong, and I'll gladly agree to disagree bc of it. Even on a real life scale, I've known several dudes that would occasionally hook up w/ 4-5 chicks on occasion in a given day. It's kinda how things line up. And things do line up in this game. Bree and Sophie both went on this trip to hookup. Townie girl wants to hookup w/ anyone NOT from the town, and this is a tiny town. Mia wants you and contributes half of the encounters in the game herself. Eve seems to be interested in using you for her own ends, which we don't know. Cassandra I'm unsure of, but horny cougar is a trope for a reason. And all of these chicks only other option is a self-destructive gambling addict w/ a shit sense of humor and no boundaries.
 
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It sounds a bit like you had sex with your own parents 13 times a day :Kappa: :LUL:
lmao No. They weren't even present. That time. Both of them did walk in on me and that ex on separate occasions though. And my mom stole my car to give me and that ex time to finish when she did. My parents were the type of people that would just walk into any place us kids were w/o warning, even as adults. Think I was the only one that it pissed off. Maybe bc I'm the only one they ever walked in on.
 
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