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Doni94

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Question, how does the taxes works on Patreon ? If I´m not mistaken, The naughty captain is from france, so if someone from another country that don´t use euro, will he be taxed ? Does patreon automatic convert to the money of the subscriver ?
 
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Question, how does the taxes works on Patreon ? If I´m not mistaken, The naughty captain is from france, so if someone from another country that don´t use euro, will he be taxed ? Does patreon automatic convert to the money of the subscriver ?
It automatically converts to the currency in your country as far as I know. It charges me in my country's currency but adds more than usual conversion rates, which I assume it includes taxes.
 
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IDjeeper

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It's the struggles of being a perfectionist, unfortunately. Although the music stuff isn't as bad as spending 10 hours posing a single shot.

But at least Naughty Captain recognizes his issues and tries to correct them.

Ocean...I'm less confident about. Things I've critiqued him on years ago (can check my posts in the WIAB thread) are still true to this day. I actually dropped their games several months ago. Perfectionism is probably the worst trait for a dev to have.
I personally think the addition of music is great if done well (Leap of Faith). the problem is music/voice should be added towards the end of the game/story's development so as not to lose licensing agreements due to expiration. Ocean and Drifty found that out and had to repay or change music.
 
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Question, how does the taxes works on Patreon ? If I´m not mistaken, The naughty captain is from france, so if someone from another country that don´t use euro, will he be taxed ? Does patreon automatic convert to the money of the subscriver ?
I would assume that a dev will need to report his Patreon income to the tax authorities.
 
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started to replay the game. Can't remember the dream sequence on the sofa; was awesome!
(Also I have to admid that I know want to bang my teacher, Miss Dragonborn more then any of the other girls. :ROFLMAO: )
 

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Wow, long time without playing this game and now no updates plus patreon ban :oops:
A shame, this started great but later it became slow with remakes and whatnot.
 
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SonsOfLiberty

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Dev Update #238

What a week.

As most, if not all, of you know, Patreon removed my account from their platform. I tried to appeal, but they barely answered me and I felt like they didn't even want to hear me out. There was never really a chance to get my page back. With it is gone most of the income Summer Scent was generating. Times were already difficult; they are now dire.

I have now to rely on Subscribe Star to fund and publish the game and my supporter's count is rather low. I have no doubt that it will improve in the coming weeks as more and more of my supporters will come to subscribe to this page. However, I also know that Subscribe Star isn't the most popular crowdfunding platform out there and some might be afraid or unwilling to support me here. I understand that perfectly. Subscribe Star is my only option.

So. What to do now? I'm not going to let go of Summer Scent, that is for sure. I haven't worked on that project for the last 4 years to abandon it now. So, I'm going to keep going and hope for the situation to improve.


My first objective is to complete and publish the current update. Then I will have a build compatible with Steam policies. It will most likely take months before the game is actually on sale but it will get there eventually.

Fingers crossed.


Despite that fiasco, I made some progress.

All scenes are fully rendered and coded. Day 2 Scene 1 and 10 are fully post-processed. As always, post-processing is the most boring and painfully tiring part of the job. It's so repetitive that it hurts. It would be easier to post-process every image as I render them, but I prefer to do them all in one batch to ensure the consistency of the results.

Next week I should be able to completely finish the coding and the post-processing. This means I should have a functioning build before next weekend. I hope to have, at least the music selection completed as well. I have found a lot of interesting tracks, and I now have to make some difficult choices.

The quick sum up :

  • Day 6 Part 4 will contain 2 new scenes: scenes 26 and 27.
  • Day 6 Part 4 will contain 2 reworked scenes from Day 2, Scenes 1 and 10.
  • Day 2, Scene 1 and 10 have been rewritten, posed and rendered.
  • Day 6, Scene 26 and 27 have been written, posed and rendered.
  • 9549 words of reworked content, and 12723 words of new content so far.
  • 4546 lines of code so far.
  • 698 shots are planned, 698 are posed, and 698 are rendered, 275 are post-processed.
  • I'm working on post-processing.
You can follow my progress on .

Thank you for your support!

The Naughty Captain



 

johnpouljones

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So. What to do now? I'm not going to let go of Summer Scent, that is for sure. I haven't worked on that project for the last 4 years to abandon it now. So, I'm going to keep going and hope for the situation to improve.

My first objective is to complete and publish the current update. Then I will have a build compatible with Steam policies. It will most likely take months before the game is actually on sale but it will get there eventually.
This is the best news of the day. After all the bad news we've read here lately.
 

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Some thoughts after a first blind playthrough. From what I gather, I ended up on the neutral path.

While I like that this MC isn't innocent and made mistakes, I don't like how he blames himself for everything. He was 14-15 and relied on the word of people in authority (headmaster/parents). I understand that Eve never really defended herself, and forbade Cassie from meddling. Instead, in the three years that passed, Eve played into her reputation, almost? I can't blame the MC for seeing her behavior as confirmation that everything said was true. She's sneaking out, partying and drinking alcohol as a minor (the game is set in the US), so she's earned that part of her reputation at least.

Cassie, I can't make sense of her. At certain times, she appears as a dominant but loving mother, other times she's submissive toward Eve (against her better judgement) and is oblivious that she's desired by men due to her low self-esteem/body image.

Eve herself is doing her best to get on my nerves. What's with the "Perv" nickname? I'm fine with it being used in private settings, but when strangers are present (Sushi with Jaye)? She'll berate the MC after he puts himself in danger to protect the girls. I get it, she was afraid and worried about him, but she shows low empathy by scolding him for it. On the other hand, she seems to take the lead with helping Kelly with her depression, showing more empathy toward her. The message I get from her, is that the MC is only there at her whims, he's the fourth wheel in their throuple. She'll actively include Kelly, her tormentor, but constantly excludes the MC because of "girl time".
This might be a consequence of the path I took, but I don't see Eve as appealing. She'll neg and berate the MC, and happily demand/accept favors while giving nothing in return. I'm not seeing an effort from her side to repair the relationship.

Speaking of the MC, at no point does he stand up for himself or tell Eve that she's being inappropriate. This seems a constant, MC Archer doesn't have spine (unless the plot demands one), or an actual personality. He'll watch TV, play video games, or hang out with the girls. He doesn't seem to have actual interests or hobbies. It's said he loves engines and cars, but it's never shown. He'd be a lot more interesting if he had an old beater to work on, instead of constantly being bored.
Speaking of being bored, what was with that shopping spree? The MC didn't want to go, Cassie promised him she'd make it worth his time... But then he just ended up following them while being bored when they were playing dress-up. How exactly did Cassie make it worth his while? I bet he would've loved to be working on an engine instead.

With the neutral path, there are a few interactions that I'm missing. After the call with Jane and the girls, the MC doesn't even consider talking to his buddy about it. He's suspicious, noting that the girls' behavior changed, but he doesn't follow up on it.
When the topic of living together for college comes up, it looks like this is a given. The MC doesn't wonder (out loud) how that'd work when they'll eventually hook up with people and bring them home (they're all friends in his mind, after all).
Finally, Cassie's kiss at the end of Day 6, part 3: "It's fast, joyful and without any ambiguity, but our lips connect nonetheless."
I'm curious to see how part 4 deals with it, but for me, it was nothing but ambiguous. More so because of the MC's reaction to it. The player can't refuse the kiss or influence his behavior. Instead, he seems immediately infatuated with her.


Looking at what other paths are available, it becomes clear to me why the MC is such a blank-slate pervert. He can be a dom for one LI while subbing for another. This in itself can't work with an MC that has a strong personality. He has to be whatever the situation demands him to be. It also explains why the early game had some blackmail choices, the MC is too weak to assert actual dominance through words and deeds, instead he has to resort to blackmail and manipulation. Too bad.

All this aside, I actually like this game a lot. The story has me hooked and the role of each character is clear and impactful. Their personalities are informing the story (except for the MC), instead of the other way around. While I'm having some trouble unifying certain character traits, I do hope (and expect) that this is on purpose. Maybe other paths explore this more, or perhaps future content will. In any case, I'm eager to find out what happens next.
 

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Hardly surprising, Patreon banned him


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SonsOfLiberty

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Hardly surprising, Patreon banned him


Consent

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It was because of "incest".
 

SonsOfLiberty

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Well, so he was breaching multiple terms then.
They didn't care about the other content, and it's no worse than other games on site (some have incest in them and they got put under review and have their Patreon back), and no there is no incest actually in the game, the incest is a patch off site and here. You can't get the patch from anywhere except Lewd Patcher and from Sancho's mod.

Considering the games that are still on Patreon and have had their Patreon under review and now are back, it seems stupid that he got the boot without even a review, just straight removed.
 

weirdscix

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They didn't care about the other content, and it's no worse than other games on site (some have incest in them and they got put under review and have their Patreon back), and no there is no incest actually in the game, the incest is a patch off site and here. You can't get the patch from anywhere except Lewd Patcher and from Sancho's mod.

Considering the games that are still on Patreon and have had their Patreon under review and now are back, it seems stupid that he got the boot without even a review, just straight removed.
Which is why I didn't think it was the incest that caused it, that can be hit/miss depending on how the dev handles it, the non consent though, they are far, far stricter with. I'm still doubtful if it will ever be approved on Steam, their policies are less defined, and it all depends on who reviews it.

Edit: I had a look at Steamworks policies again " Content that is patently offensive or intended to shock or disgust viewers " could easily be applied
 

The Naughty Captain

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any idea why they removed it? Probably incest
Incest. Nothing else.
Knowing that there was no incest in the game I published there.

I wonder if Naughty Captain is going to be able to continue working on this?
These games aren't cheap to make and he just lost a huge source of income.

I really hope everything works out for him.
I'll keep working on it, yes.

Some thoughts after a first blind playthrough. From what I gather, I ended up on the neutral path.

...

All this aside, I actually like this game a lot. The story has me hooked and the role of each character is clear and impactful. Their personalities are informing the story (except for the MC), instead of the other way around. While I'm having some trouble unifying certain character traits, I do hope (and expect) that this is on purpose. Maybe other paths explore this more, or perhaps future content will. In any case, I'm eager to find out what happens next.
Playing different paths will give you different parts of the characters' stories.
A lot of things make more sense once you know more about the characters.

Well, so he was breaching multiple terms then.
I wasn't.
There is no non con content in Summer Scent.
And again, funny thing is, there wasn't even any incest content in the game I published on my patreon page.
They didn't give a fuck about it anyway.

Edit: I had a look at Steamworks policies again " Content that is patently offensive or intended to shock or disgust viewers " could easily be applied
I don't see how that would apply to my game.
 

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I had to migrate to Subscribestar several years ago thanks to the way Patreon was doing things that just didn't make sense. And with how they've been acting lately, it's just gotten worse. I don't know how long before others wake up to this and make that migration as well.
 
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Incest. Nothing else.
Knowing that there was no incest in the game I published there.
Maybe Patreon read the description on :

maybe the problem.jpg

But, that's just guessing from my side. They should at least give you a proper answer and like they do with other devs an action plan. There was another dev under review in the last weeks. In that game is open incest, sex with animals, rape of minors, some serious violations against copyrights, and some stuff more. That dude is allowed on that platform after nearly four weeks of review and had nothing to change but the name and the header. So, I've to say Patreon is a "little bit" inconsistent and mendacious in their behavior towards the artists on their platform.
 

The Naughty Captain

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Maybe Patreon read the description on :

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But, that's just guessing from my side. They should at least give you a proper answer and like they do with other devs an action plan. There was another dev under review in the last weeks. In that game is open incest, sex with animals, rape of minors, some serious violations against copyrights, and some stuff more. That dude is allowed on that platform after nearly four weeks of review and had nothing to change but the name and the header. So, I've to say Patreon is a "little bit" inconsistent and mendacious in their behavior towards the artists on their platform.
Maybe. I'll never know for sure.
The version I published on Itch, Patreon and Subscribe Star were the same, based around a "soon to be adopted" situation.
I cannot deny that I played with fire as Jack and Eve were addressing each other as brother and sister, just as pseudo-adopted siblings would. However, that was complying even with the latest version of their tos. As there was no blood nor legal relationship between them. And they didn't like that when I pointed it out as they stopped answering my emails.

And yes, their decisions are abitrary.
 
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Maybe. I'll never know for sure.
The version I published on Itch, Patreon and Subscribe Star were the same, based around a "soon to be adopted" situation.
I cannot deny that I played with fire as Jack and Eve were addressing each other as brother and sister, just as pseudo-adopted siblings would. However, that was complying even with the latest version of their tos. As there was no blood nor legal relationship between them. And they didn't like that when I pointed it out as they stopped answering my emails.

And yes, their decisions are abitrary.
They stopped answering means theres no chance anymore to get the page back?

Quite a few of patreon sites of avns i like got temporarily removed but they usually manage to get the site restored.
 
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