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I would really suggest that you end the game first and then go on for the revamp of what so ever is needed. Every time I see a dev is going for a revamp be it for good games like Summer's gone or milking shit like Midnight Paradise. It is solidified that very moment that the story progression is about to come to a halt or extremely slow for the next 1 or 2 years.
Some devs do it as an excuse to hide the fact that they have no idea where to take the story in future but can't abandon the game and the money coming from patrons so they just announce an unasked and unrequired revamp. Some do it to amplify the game's experience from the start but the bottom line is same ...... story progression just goes for a free fall.
I know one dev who is quite successful in this field and goes by the name DrPinkCake, he knows there is no point in revamping the earlier chapters but improve the one coming next while keeping the pace of story. It also helps in improving the fanbase as it quite intriguing for them to see the difference between from what the game started to how it is today. He knows that after the game ends, if he wants to do it then he will have enough time to revamp the earlier chapters while the fanbase will remain constant.
I get it you want it to become more sellable by improving renders but that alone won't be enough. If your game has good reviews as well as a good rep of giving timely updates with good story progress, fanbase will automatically increase and so will the patrons but if the renders are good but the rep and reviews go down as you know people will start to rant about the gap between updates and how the revamp made it worse, like it or not it won't really help but may ruin the chances for more people to get intrigued by it as many people do see the reviews before trying the game and deciding is it worth spending money upon.
Rest is up to you
Some devs do it as an excuse to hide the fact that they have no idea where to take the story in future but can't abandon the game and the money coming from patrons so they just announce an unasked and unrequired revamp. Some do it to amplify the game's experience from the start but the bottom line is same ...... story progression just goes for a free fall.
I know one dev who is quite successful in this field and goes by the name DrPinkCake, he knows there is no point in revamping the earlier chapters but improve the one coming next while keeping the pace of story. It also helps in improving the fanbase as it quite intriguing for them to see the difference between from what the game started to how it is today. He knows that after the game ends, if he wants to do it then he will have enough time to revamp the earlier chapters while the fanbase will remain constant.
I get it you want it to become more sellable by improving renders but that alone won't be enough. If your game has good reviews as well as a good rep of giving timely updates with good story progress, fanbase will automatically increase and so will the patrons but if the renders are good but the rep and reviews go down as you know people will start to rant about the gap between updates and how the revamp made it worse, like it or not it won't really help but may ruin the chances for more people to get intrigued by it as many people do see the reviews before trying the game and deciding is it worth spending money upon.
Rest is up to you
- Jun 14, 2020
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There's a solution for you: stop the payment on Patreon when you think it's not worth it. If you're not paying anything, well, why should a dev bother about what a pirate thinks about his work?
- Apr 24, 2020
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Well, we can tell which wolf Trevor fed....
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why dont the mc stand up for him self more it seems like he gets push around alot and yes i got femdom on but still come on
- Mar 13, 2021
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Since many people here don't pay attention to Patreon posts, I'm going to post the Author's last Patreon public post:
31 March
The three scenes of the main branch are mostly complete.
I've sent the scripts to my proofreaders. I began working on scene 22 and I'm reworking my original ideas. I should be able to write it with about 3k words and 100 renders or so. Maybe a bit less, we'll see. Scene 22 is part of the Moronic Hero Path.
I'm increasingly thinking about cutting some useless content from the game.
Cassie's failed love pseudo path for starter, which doesn't bring much and is probably not played at all. But I'm also thinking of removing all the options allowing you to ditch Cassie or Eve, or escape a relationship after you triggered it.
As of now, on multiple paths, you have choices leading to such situations and I don't see the point of it anymore. If you choose to romance a girl, it's not to ditch her later on. No one will play that choice. If you have second thoughts, you can always reload or restart the game.
It will simplify the code and the writing a bit, but will also lead to some major code changes. I estimate that about 3k to 5k words would disappear from the script, in various scenes. Needless to say that it is likely to cause issues with your savefiles. I'm not entirely sure of the consequences of such changes and I have some testing to do. I will keep you updated on that matter, as soon as I know more.
The quick sum up :
You can follow my progress on
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The Naughty Captain
31 March
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The three scenes of the main branch are mostly complete.
I've sent the scripts to my proofreaders. I began working on scene 22 and I'm reworking my original ideas. I should be able to write it with about 3k words and 100 renders or so. Maybe a bit less, we'll see. Scene 22 is part of the Moronic Hero Path.
I'm increasingly thinking about cutting some useless content from the game.
Cassie's failed love pseudo path for starter, which doesn't bring much and is probably not played at all. But I'm also thinking of removing all the options allowing you to ditch Cassie or Eve, or escape a relationship after you triggered it.
As of now, on multiple paths, you have choices leading to such situations and I don't see the point of it anymore. If you choose to romance a girl, it's not to ditch her later on. No one will play that choice. If you have second thoughts, you can always reload or restart the game.
It will simplify the code and the writing a bit, but will also lead to some major code changes. I estimate that about 3k to 5k words would disappear from the script, in various scenes. Needless to say that it is likely to cause issues with your savefiles. I'm not entirely sure of the consequences of such changes and I have some testing to do. I will keep you updated on that matter, as soon as I know more.
The quick sum up :
- Day 6 Part 2 will contain 8 scenes (Scenes 19 to 26).
- Scenes 19 to 21 are written, posed, rendered and coded (logic ready).
- 21 647 words so far.
- 4627 lines of code.
- 681 renders are planned, 681 shots are posed and 681 are rendered.
- I'm working on writing scene 22.
You can follow my progress on
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.Thank you for your support!
The Naughty Captain
- Jan 31, 2019
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such a missed opportunity to not name the MC Adam by default. lol
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Dev Update #189
Scene 22.
It's written. With 2675 words, it's pretty much within the limits of my estimation.
It's ready for posing. I cut it and planned 94 shots but I will probably revise this figure downwards as I'm sure there will be a couple of shots I'll be able to reuse.
I already started posing it. I did some prep work and posed a few shots. I'm going to try a couple of new things with this scene but I don't expect any difficulties.
Music!
I'm still searching for it. And so far I'm failing. Every music licensing platform refuses to work with adult content creators. So I'm gonna have to find and directly contact artists, and try to negotiate an alternative agreement. At that point, my hopes are pretty low.
The quick sum up :
- Day 6 Part 2 will contain 8 scenes (Scenes 19 to 26).
- Scenes 19 to 21 are written, posed, rendered and coded (logic ready). Scene 22 is written.
- 24 322 words so far.
- 4627 lines of code.
- 775 renders are planned, 685 shots are posed and 681 are rendered.
- I'm working on posing scene 22.
You can follow my progress on
You must be registered to see the links
.Thank you for your support!
The Naughty Captain
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On music, while we wait for it, we might ask the Great KoGa3 for a nice music mod (just check what he did for Hillside)
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- Jun 18, 2017
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Dev Update #190
There is very little to report this week.
Scene 22.
Half of it is posed. So far, I didn't encounter any difficulties. I have reduced the number of shots planned a bit. I expect to reduce it again next week when I'll pose the second half of the scene.
I haven't rendered anything yet but I expect the images to be reasonably fast to process. I'll run the first batch tonight.
Scene 23 is pretty much planned and fairly detailed at this point. Writing it should be a breeze. I'll get on it as soon as I'm done with posing scene 22 : by the end of next week.
The desperate quest for music continues. I tried to directly contact a couple of artists. So far none answered my emails.
That doesn't feel great.
The quick sum up :
You can follow my progress on this Trello board.
Thank you for your support!
The Naughty Captain
Dev Update #190
There is very little to report this week.
Scene 22.
Half of it is posed. So far, I didn't encounter any difficulties. I have reduced the number of shots planned a bit. I expect to reduce it again next week when I'll pose the second half of the scene.
I haven't rendered anything yet but I expect the images to be reasonably fast to process. I'll run the first batch tonight.
Scene 23 is pretty much planned and fairly detailed at this point. Writing it should be a breeze. I'll get on it as soon as I'm done with posing scene 22 : by the end of next week.
The desperate quest for music continues. I tried to directly contact a couple of artists. So far none answered my emails.
That doesn't feel great.
The quick sum up :
- Day 6 Part 2 will contain 8 scenes (Scenes 19 to 26).
- Scenes 19 to 21 are written, posed, rendered and coded (logic ready). Scene 22 is written.
- 24 322 words so far.
- 4627 lines of code.
- 773 renders are planned, 733 shots are posed and 681 are rendered.
- I'm working on posing scene 22.
You can follow my progress on this Trello board.
Thank you for your support!
The Naughty Captain
if your game has the word "summer" in the title, then updates will be very slow
- Jan 19, 2020
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- Oct 11, 2021
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hey cap'n its cool bout the music, i never have the music on anyway. no one ever uses dubstep or anything else i like, so i just leave the volume down on that function.
I would second that. I play all renpy games via JoiPlay on my phone with volume off.
Whenever i see stuff about music, i just see it as unnecessary fluff that bloats downloads and causes extra development issues.
Music is a tricky subject. For some it is essential, for others it's useless.
One thing is for sure though, it's better to have music and have the option to silence it, than not having music at all.
- Aug 8, 2020
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Just adding my two cents:
I unironically have soundtrack music in the car from Cowboy Bebop, Secret of Mana, Dear Esther, and Universim on rotation alongside all my mainstream artists... and added about 25 songs from Being A DIK onto it over the last year.
Even PremiumBeats stock music can slap.